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Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3366438
03/04/21 04:32 PM
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Yeah, you can see all the Biden, Hillary and Sanders voters on here.


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3366562
03/04/21 08:25 PM
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I know a couple guys that hunt about 1k acres. In the last 4 years they have killed 13 bucks one of those was aged at 3, two were aged at 4 and the other ten were aged at 5+. Nine of those were killed on green fields. The biggest obstacle to killing mature deer is having mature deer and it ain’t even close.

Last edited by mike35549; 03/04/21 08:29 PM.

If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3366626
03/04/21 10:15 PM
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X2 on Mikes last sentence

I hav 2 properties and the property I hit harder - my very best deer stayed nocturnal

The other property I hardly hunted my best deer showing up often now and has been for a month

For me it pressure and wind and u hav to hav the deer first

My first sit paid off for me again this year which is often the case if Nobody else pressured


Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3366640
03/04/21 10:35 PM
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I don’t hunt the wind
I woke up late
I was hungry at 9am
I washed my cloths before season
That was my granddaddy’s stand.
That’s too thick to hunt
I kill what I want, I see mature bucks on camera and they ain’t easy to kill.
That kind of thing?

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: mike35549] #3366921
03/05/21 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mike35549
The biggest obstacle to killing mature deer is having mature deer


And the only way to have mature 4/5+ bucks is to stop killing all the 1, 2 and 3 year old bucks.


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: WmHunter] #3366922
03/05/21 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by mike35549
The biggest obstacle to killing mature deer is having mature deer


And the only way to have mature 4/5+ bucks is to stop killing all the 1, 2 and 3 year old bucks.


We've got a three buck limit.


We dont rent pigs
Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3366925
03/05/21 02:08 PM
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Read more carefully.
The post was about the most common ages of bucks that people kill.
Most 1, 2 and 3 year old bucks are killed every single year by hunters.
Very few bucks are allowed to make it to 4 years old, much less 5 years old.

Last edited by WmHunter; 03/05/21 02:09 PM.

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" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3367257
03/06/21 04:07 AM
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Yawn

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: Davyalabama] #3367298
03/06/21 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Davyalabama
Some of you want further encroachment on our hunting privileges, because you prefer a different way of hunting. You bow hunt, so let's limit gun hunters. You want a huge buck, so let's limit the numbers others kill. Go buy several hundred acres, manage it to the best or your ability, and then have some twiddle fart tell you that you can't kill bucks on it, because it isn't fair to them because they can't hunt that type land. Hmmm, sounds like a bunch of democrats to me.

Same people will be on here bitching about chuckie telling them what to do!

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3367353
03/06/21 09:04 AM
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A 1.5-2yr old buck is way better to eat then a 5-6yr old and you save your does. Way better sausage also. A nice young spike is prime vittles. Just ask Quailman.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3368706
03/08/21 03:20 PM
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I know you can't kill them if you don't have them, but I figured most areas had some and they weren't all killed now. I thought by adding more mature bucks to the mix but continuing to hunt the same way in the same areas, you'd have the same results. Maybe I'm wrong. Definitely not advocating for more restrictions.

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3369403
03/09/21 02:23 PM
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This comparison of deer management and political liberty is as preposterous as it is ignorant. A man advocating for conservative management of a shared resource can only be right.

And why is it that the argument ALWAYS goes this way??---- Two landowners side by side.
Guy A is virtuous and enlightened, an "if it's brown it's down, no rules" kind of hunter, a loving saint who pets lambs and feeds starving children and is the only kind of hunter who TRULY enjoys the outdoors, he knows what's REALLY important about hunting.
Guy B is an evil trophy hunter, a miserable grump who robs the fun from hunting and stomps on kittens. He has been brainwashed by Stan Potts and needs therapy to return to the grass roots pursuit of tasty venison
(yes, the sarcasm is intended because that's how y'all freakin' act)

Guy A ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS accuses Guy B of being a Democrat, a hunting Nazi, who advocates for more restrictions, and tells him he's being authoritarian and selfish. Because CLEARLY Guy A doesn't in any way, whatsoever, ever at all, affect Guy B.
Those deer cross the boundaries all day and night, every day for the entire lives, and Guy A shoots any of them whenever he wants. But Guy B is the selfish one trying to ruin it for everybody? Give me a break. It truly is just like politics after all, the very ones who are actually a negative affector, accuse the other side doing it.


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Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3369433
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I'm tired of being bombarded with the folks on hunting AND fishing shows telling me:
"What It's All About"... It's getting real old.

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3369444
03/09/21 03:42 PM
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It’s all about what you want to get out of it Tree Dweller - it’s your hunting experience


Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3369667
03/09/21 10:03 PM
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It's the people that piss and moan constantly about a deer has to be X amount years old or have X amount of inches of antler to be killed. It's all about hunting and enjoying the time in the woods/outdoors. I don't have to impress anyone but myself of what I legally kill/ or don't within the laws and regulations of the state. Asshats that insist on TROPHY STANDARDS for everyone that hunts ARE the problem. Everybody wants to kill a huge massive buck yet to pressure yourself is one thing but insisting everyone do the same is not only wrong but hurting the entire deer hunting sport. Just like houses ,vehicles, etc, Everyone has the right to their personal standards.

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: ikillbux] #3369876
03/10/21 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ikillbux
Originally Posted by UA Hunter
In most of Alabama, the population of mature bucks could significantly increase and the number of mature bucks killed by hunters wouldn't significantly increase. In most places, it's not the complete lack of mature bucks that prevent most people from routinely killing them. It's habitat, hunting styles and other factors. If you never see/kill mature bucks now, that would be unlikely to change.



I agree with you. Very few mounter-racked bucks are killed on a greenfield, from a shooting house or ladder stand, that gets hunted every weekend, by every member on the club and their 463 kids and guests (with their Bad Boy Buggy sitting literally in sight) (and it was daylight when they walked in and out).

When someone says "hunting club" to me, I immediately think "food plots and ladder stands" and basically no chance at a mounter buck. No thank you.


I know of a pile of mature bucks killed on food plots over the past 5 years. Most never post pictures. I’ve personally killed 4 (5 year old) bucks in plots in the same period. My son killed 1 and missed 1 (he’s 11). The thing is we ONLY shoot mature bucks on those properties and we don’t shoot does AT ALL. But to say very few is just plain wrong.

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Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3369945
03/10/21 02:22 PM
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Plenty of big bucks are shot on plots and shooting houses every year. Both my sons (8 and 10) shot a 4 and 5/6 year olds on food plots this year. Both were in broad day light too. People often overlook the most important part. That’s pressure, or lack thereof.

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3369990
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^^^^👍

Pressure n Wind


Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3370245
03/11/21 07:26 AM
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Thousands of 5+ yr old deer die on food plots yearly. Most of those die about 4:30 pm deer are dumb dont over think it

Re: Unpopular Opinion [Re: UA Hunter] #3370613
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I think the problem is everybody is right in their own eyes and want their own way.

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