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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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I'd be surprised if Alabama goes to tags.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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At least I won’t have to buy a hunting license or bait permit, worry about what season or weapon, nor the game app or quotas. I’ll be a silent poacher. Unlike when I’m a kid, I’ll wear shoes now.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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CAB meets next week, I think. I say we all pony up a few bucks to send Clem to write an after-action report.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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At least I won’t have to buy a hunting license or bait permit, worry about what season or weapon, nor the game app or quotas. I’ll be a silent poacher. Unlike when I’m a kid, I’ll wear shoes now. Bout how it's gonna end up with me Just shoot what i need out the bedroom window at night and put it in the freezer
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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I'd be surprised if Alabama goes to tags. . What is the difference between tags and having to put it on this stinking app? Certainly you aren't thinking tags like that have for moose and Elk out west? If they start doing that, they may do the same with turkeys, we are definitely loosing our turkey population. We better be banding together against this crap!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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I'd be surprised if Alabama goes to tags. . What is the difference between tags and having to put it on this stinking app? Certainly you aren't thinking tags like that have for moose and Elk out west? If they start doing that, they may do the same with turkeys, we are definitely loosing our turkey population. We better be banding together against this crap!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of tags is there other than the kind you attach to the animal? Pretty sure tags will cost DCNR a little more time and $ than the app, they aren't in the habit of doing thinks that cost more $. Many states are getting away from tags and checking old school way for that very reason.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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What doesn't seem to be registering with a lot of folks is that if Chucky and the "advisory Board" don't produce more rules, regulations, hoops and BS they are not seen as doing their jobs. Not hard to figure out just keep dribbling BS out and piling on and piling on until you can be ticketed to make money for the State for even thinking about hunting and fishing without buying a thinking about it license. Then use the app to let them know that you are about to think about it and can't think about it until you get an okay you can think about it confirmation number and the amount of time allowed or you will be fined!!!! Just like "common sense" gun control to guarantee that the common man becomes a criminal in some form or fashion to satisfy DA's ego and make them feel better. Carry on.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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CAB meets next week, I think. I say we all pony up a few bucks to send Clem to write an after-action report.
My weekend day rate is $1,000 plus all expenses. Cover that and I'll do it.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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You can be certain that they will do something to make it harder for a regular guy and his kids to go hunting and fishing. They never get rid of regulations, they just add more.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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And again they piss and moan about the numbers of hunter are going down and can't figure out why They sure are doing all they can to bring in out-of-staters!
“If you do not conquer self, you will be conquered by self.” Napoleon Hill The most difficult thing to understand during conversation is silence. Thoreau
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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What's wrong with out of staters?
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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What doesn't seem to be registering with a lot of folks is that if Chucky and the "advisory Board" don't produce more rules, regulations, hoops and BS they are not seen as doing their jobs. That truth reminds of two things: 1. Ronald Reagan's quotes about government agencies and bureaucracies: "No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!" 2. Ludwig Von Mises famous book - "Bureaucracy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureaucracy_(book) https://mises.org/library/bureaucracy***** We need more hunting regulations like we need another hole in the head.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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03/01/21 01:10 PM
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What's wrong with out of staters? To answer your question honestly, nothing is wrong with the PEOPLE from out of state. BUT When someone from out of state comes into the State of Alabama and leases hunting land that's one less piece of land for an Alabama resident. That doesn't mean there wasn't an Alabama resident willing to lease it, it just means that an out of state-r priced the land out of reach of the local. Now that's not illegal but sometimes it's not a fair fight. For instance..... you got a resident of New Orleans.... high cost of living, really high salaries can drive to Alabama in just a few hours and lease property around Selma for $20/acre happily. Well that $20/acre is too high for the folks that live in and around Selma. Even if they all join up and make a club it's extreme. So I hope that clears it up, we don't necessarily have anything against the PEOPLE, just the PROCESS because its taking our land from us. And for further clarification, it is our land, we're the residents, we pay the taxes, we vote for the representatives, we pay for the roads.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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And again they piss and moan about the numbers of hunter are going down and can't figure out why They sure are doing all they can to bring in out-of-staters! . I was commenting on the fact of hunter numbers going down in the state, yet the state is spending wads of cash to advertise and bring in out of state hunters. Why not spend the cash on upping the numbers of in-state hunters by doing something with land we have now. We are paying several people a pretty penny to market the state of Alabama to out-of-staters.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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03/01/21 04:13 PM
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What's wrong with out of staters? To answer your question honestly, nothing is wrong with the PEOPLE from out of state. BUT When someone from out of state comes into the State of Alabama and leases hunting land that's one less piece of land for an Alabama resident. That doesn't mean there wasn't an Alabama resident willing to lease it, it just means that an out of state-r priced the land out of reach of the local. Now that's not illegal but sometimes it's not a fair fight. For instance..... you got a resident of New Orleans.... high cost of living, really high salaries can drive to Alabama in just a few hours and lease property around Selma for $20/acre happily. Well that $20/acre is too high for the folks that live in and around Selma. Even if they all join up and make a club it's extreme. So I hope that clears it up, we don't necessarily have anything against the PEOPLE, just the PROCESS because its taking our land from us. And for further clarification, it is our land, we're the residents, we pay the taxes, we vote for the representatives, we pay for the roads. Youre full of crap. I'm sick of hearing this BS all the time. I know plenty of lawyers and doctors in Bham, Mobile, Auburn, Huntsville and Montgomery as well as even more big time financial guys in those same cities that have really jacked up the rates in certain areas of the blackbelt, just as much, if not more than out of staters. Fact is, in most cases, Bama residents are some of the worst offenders. Word gets out about some huge bucks being killed in a certain area (and they hear about it, due to living and knowing people all over the state) and they have their staffs do some quick research and then they go down and offer the landowner a wad of cash (a group B'ham lawyers offered the landowner double what we were paying in Marengo for 4K acres about 15 years ago, local landowner broke our lease and leased it to them. Told us he was sorry but couldnt turn down that kind of money). We couldnt match that kind of $$ and 10 yrs of work, managing and growing those bucks was gone. I know a couple Bama guys that have "feelers" out with multiple taxidermists to be on the lookout for properties that consistently give up great bucks. Worst guy I ever knew about doing it owned his own trucking company. He finds out you killed a couple 150+ on a specific property a couple years in a row and he'll try to get it out from under you and the price doesnt matter. He lives in central Bama and I'm not naming names. It's not out-of-staters, it's anybody with serious money. There are several timber companies based in AL and owned by AL resident families and they've got 3-5% annual escalation clauses built into every single one of their leases and have been doing it since the early 90's. They lease to a lot of Bama residents. In fact, probably 80% Alabama residents for one that I am very familiar with. When the price per acre has increased 3-5% for the past 30 years, land that used to lease for $4-$8/acre is now $20-$30/acre and if a timber company is getting that kind of money, all the local landowners expect to get paid that for theirs too. Nothing is being taken from you. If you're a Selma local, it is your local landowners that are leasing it to these other people at these high rates. Just tell them not to do it and lease it to you instead. LOL It's not "your land"!! If you owned 20,000 acres, you wouldnt be complaining, you'd be hunting what you wanted to hunt and leasing the rest of it for absolutely as much money as you could get for it, state of residence of who you leased it to, be damned. Your tax dollars dont go for jack chit on hunting land. The only taxes related to that land are paid by the local Alabama resident landowner that is leasing it, not you, and he's like everyone else in the world, trying to make as much as he can. Sorry youre getting left out but you've got two options. Convince a local landowner you know to lease you property at 1980 rates or let you hunt for free, or get a better paying job or win the lottery, so you can buy your own property or lease some out from under someone else. Then you'll be the one everyone is complaining about. Dont hate the player, hate the game. Another thing, New Orleans salaries are crap and the cost of living is not remotely high compared to B'ham, Atlanta, Huntsville, or even Mobile. My beef with the LA guys is that I've never met one that has ever seen a single deer he didnt want to kill. I'l also say that I agree that lease prices have gotten ridiculous but so have prices on trucks, houses, furniture, groceries and everything else. It's called inflation, it hits all areas and it spares nobody.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Out of staters also eat out, stay in hotels, etc.
They do provide a lot of tax revenue. And Abolt is spot on above.
I think he is referring to Scotch. They are leasing sub par pine farms for ridiculous amounts. At some point, I will just buy the biggest piece of land I can afford and tell these timber companies to suck on it.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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I'd be surprised if Alabama goes to tags. I wouldnt be surprised at anything that the state does to take more money away from people.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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Like it or not, GameCheck already is in place and is free. It's the best free method for GWs to check for compliance and the biologists to accumulate data.
Y'all REALLY want to pay more for the government to mandate something else from you? Because if we ever get physical tags that come from the DCNR, they won't be free. There will be a cost or fee associated with them to pay for them, and that fee or cost will come from you.
If you want to "tag" your deer, use GameCheck. It's free and easy.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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What's wrong with out of staters? To answer your question honestly, nothing is wrong with the PEOPLE from out of state. BUT When someone from out of state comes into the State of Alabama and leases hunting land that's one less piece of land for an Alabama resident. That doesn't mean there wasn't an Alabama resident willing to lease it, it just means that an out of state-r priced the land out of reach of the local. Now that's not illegal but sometimes it's not a fair fight. For instance..... you got a resident of New Orleans.... high cost of living, really high salaries can drive to Alabama in just a few hours and lease property around Selma for $20/acre happily. Well that $20/acre is too high for the folks that live in and around Selma. Even if they all join up and make a club it's extreme. So I hope that clears it up, we don't necessarily have anything against the PEOPLE, just the PROCESS because its taking our land from us. And for further clarification, it is our land, we're the residents, we pay the taxes, we vote for the representatives, we pay for the roads. Youre full of crap. I'm sick of hearing this BS all the time. I know plenty of lawyers and doctors in Bham, Mobile, Auburn, Huntsville and Montgomery as well as even more big time financial guys in those same cities that have really jacked up the rates in certain areas of the blackbelt, just as much, if not more than out of staters. Fact is, in most cases, Bama residents are some of the worst offenders. Word gets out about some huge bucks being killed in a certain area (and they hear about it, due to living and knowing people all over the state) and they have their staffs do some quick research and then they go down and offer the landowner a wad of cash (a group B'ham lawyers offered the landowner double what we were paying in Marengo for 4K acres about 15 years ago, local landowner broke our lease and leased it to them. Told us he was sorry but couldnt turn down that kind of money). We couldnt match that kind of $$ and 10 yrs of work, managing and growing those bucks was gone. I know a couple Bama guys that have "feelers" out with multiple taxidermists to be on the lookout for properties that consistently give up great bucks. Worst guy I ever knew about doing it owned his own trucking company. He finds out you killed a couple 150+ on a specific property a couple years in a row and he'll try to get it out from under you and the price doesnt matter. He lives in central Bama and I'm not naming names. It's not out-of-staters, it's anybody with serious money. There are several timber companies based in AL and owned by AL resident families and they've got 3-5% annual escalation clauses built into every single one of their leases and have been doing it since the early 90's. They lease to a lot of Bama residents. In fact, probably 80% Alabama residents for one that I am very familiar with. When the price per acre has increased 3-5% for the past 30 years, land that used to lease for $4-$8/acre is now $20-$30/acre and if a timber company is getting that kind of money, all the local landowners expect to get paid that for theirs too. Nothing is being taken from you. If you're a Selma local, it is your local landowners that are leasing it to these other people at these high rates. Just tell them not to do it and lease it to you instead. LOL It's not "your land"!! If you owned 20,000 acres, you wouldnt be complaining, you'd be hunting what you wanted to hunt and leasing the rest of it for absolutely as much money as you could get for it, state of residence of who you leased it to, be damned. Your tax dollars dont go for jack chit on hunting land. The only taxes related to that land are paid by the local Alabama resident landowner that is leasing it, not you, and he's like everyone else in the world, trying to make as much as he can. Sorry youre getting left out but you've got two options. Convince a local landowner you know to lease you property at 1980 rates or let you hunt for free, or get a better paying job or win the lottery, so you can buy your own property or lease some out from under someone else. Then you'll be the one everyone is complaining about. Dont hate the player, hate the game. Another thing, New Orleans salaries are crap and the cost of living is not remotely high compared to B'ham, Atlanta, Huntsville, or even Mobile. My beef with the LA guys is that I've never met one that has ever seen a single deer he didnt want to kill. I'l also say that I agree that lease prices have gotten ridiculous but so have prices on trucks, houses, furniture, groceries and everything else. It's called inflation, it hits all areas and it spares nobody. Wow, touched a nerve did I? Hahahaha. You obviously don’t know me because if you did you’d know I actually work in Huntsville (from home currently) and make a salary that doesn’t rival any doctor or lawyers but they’re the only people I know who make more consistently. Also I have plenty of my own land that I lease at a modest price so being left out is something I’ve luckily avoided. I’m thankful I found a good landowner. I don’t disagree with the point that there’s Alabama residents doing the same thing I mentioned but that doesn’t change the fact that my statement was dead on no matter what you believe, you can kick rocks if you think I’m full of crap. I personally could give a rats butt about what you think but your idea it’s all Alabama residents doing it just doesn’t hold water.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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What's wrong with out of staters? To answer your question honestly, nothing is wrong with the PEOPLE from out of state. BUT When someone from out of state comes into the State of Alabama and leases hunting land that's one less piece of land for an Alabama resident. That doesn't mean there wasn't an Alabama resident willing to lease it, it just means that an out of state-r priced the land out of reach of the local. Now that's not illegal but sometimes it's not a fair fight. For instance..... you got a resident of New Orleans.... high cost of living, really high salaries can drive to Alabama in just a few hours and lease property around Selma for $20/acre happily. Well that $20/acre is too high for the folks that live in and around Selma. Even if they all join up and make a club it's extreme. So I hope that clears it up, we don't necessarily have anything against the PEOPLE, just the PROCESS because its taking our land from us. And for further clarification, it is our land, we're the residents, we pay the taxes, we vote for the representatives, we pay for the roads. Taking your land from you? Too funny! The land owner can lease to who ever he wants too! It's his land not yours.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Money is money! What difference does it make where it comes from.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Back to the subject of the thread. Has anyone seriously heard that AL is going to tags for the next deer season? From a reliable source, not Fbook
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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What's wrong with out of staters? To answer your question honestly, nothing is wrong with the PEOPLE from out of state. BUT When someone from out of state comes into the State of Alabama and leases hunting land that's one less piece of land for an Alabama resident. That doesn't mean there wasn't an Alabama resident willing to lease it, it just means that an out of state-r priced the land out of reach of the local. Now that's not illegal but sometimes it's not a fair fight. For instance..... you got a resident of New Orleans.... high cost of living, really high salaries can drive to Alabama in just a few hours and lease property around Selma for $20/acre happily. Well that $20/acre is too high for the folks that live in and around Selma. Even if they all join up and make a club it's extreme. So I hope that clears it up, we don't necessarily have anything against the PEOPLE, just the PROCESS because its taking our land from us. And for further clarification, it is our land, we're the residents, we pay the taxes, we vote for the representatives, we pay for the roads. Youre full of crap. I'm sick of hearing this BS all the time. I know plenty of lawyers and doctors in Bham, Mobile, Auburn, Huntsville and Montgomery as well as even more big time financial guys in those same cities that have really jacked up the rates in certain areas of the blackbelt, just as much, if not more than out of staters. Fact is, in most cases, Bama residents are some of the worst offenders. Word gets out about some huge bucks being killed in a certain area (and they hear about it, due to living and knowing people all over the state) and they have their staffs do some quick research and then they go down and offer the landowner a wad of cash (a group B'ham lawyers offered the landowner double what we were paying in Marengo for 4K acres about 15 years ago, local landowner broke our lease and leased it to them. Told us he was sorry but couldnt turn down that kind of money). We couldnt match that kind of $$ and 10 yrs of work, managing and growing those bucks was gone. I know a couple Bama guys that have "feelers" out with multiple taxidermists to be on the lookout for properties that consistently give up great bucks. Worst guy I ever knew about doing it owned his own trucking company. He finds out you killed a couple 150+ on a specific property a couple years in a row and he'll try to get it out from under you and the price doesnt matter. He lives in central Bama and I'm not naming names. It's not out-of-staters, it's anybody with serious money. There are several timber companies based in AL and owned by AL resident families and they've got 3-5% annual escalation clauses built into every single one of their leases and have been doing it since the early 90's. They lease to a lot of Bama residents. In fact, probably 80% Alabama residents for one that I am very familiar with. When the price per acre has increased 3-5% for the past 30 years, land that used to lease for $4-$8/acre is now $20-$30/acre and if a timber company is getting that kind of money, all the local landowners expect to get paid that for theirs too. Nothing is being taken from you. If you're a Selma local, it is your local landowners that are leasing it to these other people at these high rates. Just tell them not to do it and lease it to you instead. LOL It's not "your land"!! If you owned 20,000 acres, you wouldnt be complaining, you'd be hunting what you wanted to hunt and leasing the rest of it for absolutely as much money as you could get for it, state of residence of who you leased it to, be damned. Your tax dollars dont go for jack chit on hunting land. The only taxes related to that land are paid by the local Alabama resident landowner that is leasing it, not you, and he's like everyone else in the world, trying to make as much as he can. Sorry youre getting left out but you've got two options. Convince a local landowner you know to lease you property at 1980 rates or let you hunt for free, or get a better paying job or win the lottery, so you can buy your own property or lease some out from under someone else. Then you'll be the one everyone is complaining about. Dont hate the player, hate the game. Another thing, New Orleans salaries are crap and the cost of living is not remotely high compared to B'ham, Atlanta, Huntsville, or even Mobile. My beef with the LA guys is that I've never met one that has ever seen a single deer he didnt want to kill. I'l also say that I agree that lease prices have gotten ridiculous but so have prices on trucks, houses, furniture, groceries and everything else. It's called inflation, it hits all areas and it spares nobody. Wow, touched a nerve did I? Hahahaha. You obviously don’t know me because if you did you’d know I actually work in Huntsville (from home currently) and make a salary that doesn’t rival any doctor or lawyers but they’re the only people I know who make more consistently. Also I have plenty of my own land that I lease at a modest price so being left out is something I’ve luckily avoided. I’m thankful I found a good landowner. I don’t disagree with the point that there’s Alabama residents doing the same thing I mentioned but that doesn’t change the fact that my statement was dead on no matter what you believe, you can kick rocks if you think I’m full of crap. I personally could give a rats butt about what you think but your idea it’s all Alabama residents doing it just doesn’t hold water. For someone with a great work from home job that pays the big bucks, you must really be a super sharp guy but your reading comprehension is pretty weak and your post now raises several questions. First, I never said it's only AL residents. I specifically said, "it's anybody with serious money" that is causing the problem. Second, if you live and work in Huntsville, why was your post about $20 Selma leases and Selma locals no longer being able to afford it even if they join up and make a club? I own property in Mobile, Washington, and Wilcox counties and lease additional property in Marengo, Clarke and Wilcox. I can assure you that none of that land falls into the category that you referenced in saying "It's taking our land from us....it is our land, we're the residents, we pay the taxes". It's not your land and you dont have a right to anything. Your statement was not dead on, and displays your ignorance of the route cause of the problem in not acknowledging that Alabama residents (both the AL landowners and the big money AL crew) are just as big a part of the problem as the out of staters. You didnt hit a nerve and it's evident that you're the only one in this conversation that is butt hurt about things. If I can find someone from South Florida, South Dakota, NY, east Africa, Mexico, Brazil, Europe, Russia, or China that is willing to pay me $150/acre to lease hunting rights on the properties I own, I'll dang sure lease it to them for that and you'll just have to be upset about it. It's called free enterprise and capitalism is what the US was built on. Be a solution to the problem you identified and buy you some land down at Selma or anywhere close in Dallas county and you can lease it to the locals for $1 an acre, and give all those locals you seem to be so worried about, a place to hunt. Better yet, if you live in Huntsville, just buy the land and you wont even have to bother with the leasing aspect since the "true locals" will figure out you're not really "local" and will hunt it for you for "free". Maybe you can even plant them some greenfields and build a camp on it that they can practice breaking into every other month. It'd be a win win. And Dgambler, I would be shocked if the state went with a tag system next year. If there really was a plan in place, official word would be leaking out by now from trusted sources and not just a little random chatter on FB.
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Like it or not, GameCheck already is in place and is free. It's the best free method for GWs to check for compliance and the biologists to accumulate data.
Y'all REALLY want to pay more for the government to mandate something else from you? Because if we ever get physical tags that come from the DCNR, they won't be free. There will be a cost or fee associated with them to pay for them, and that fee or cost will come from you.
If you want to "tag" your deer, use GameCheck. It's free and easy.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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What's wrong with out of staters? To answer your question honestly, nothing is wrong with the PEOPLE from out of state. BUT When someone from out of state comes into the State of Alabama and leases hunting land that's one less piece of land for an Alabama resident. That doesn't mean there wasn't an Alabama resident willing to lease it, it just means that an out of state-r priced the land out of reach of the local. Now that's not illegal but sometimes it's not a fair fight. For instance..... you got a resident of New Orleans.... high cost of living, really high salaries can drive to Alabama in just a few hours and lease property around Selma for $20/acre happily. Well that $20/acre is too high for the folks that live in and around Selma. Even if they all join up and make a club it's extreme. So I hope that clears it up, we don't necessarily have anything against the PEOPLE, just the PROCESS because its taking our land from us. And for further clarification, it is our land, we're the residents, we pay the taxes, we vote for the representatives, we pay for the roads. Youre full of crap. I'm sick of hearing this BS all the time. I know plenty of lawyers and doctors in Bham, Mobile, Auburn, Huntsville and Montgomery as well as even more big time financial guys in those same cities that have really jacked up the rates in certain areas of the blackbelt, just as much, if not more than out of staters. Fact is, in most cases, Bama residents are some of the worst offenders. Word gets out about some huge bucks being killed in a certain area (and they hear about it, due to living and knowing people all over the state) and they have their staffs do some quick research and then they go down and offer the landowner a wad of cash (a group B'ham lawyers offered the landowner double what we were paying in Marengo for 4K acres about 15 years ago, local landowner broke our lease and leased it to them. Told us he was sorry but couldnt turn down that kind of money). We couldnt match that kind of $$ and 10 yrs of work, managing and growing those bucks was gone. I know a couple Bama guys that have "feelers" out with multiple taxidermists to be on the lookout for properties that consistently give up great bucks. Worst guy I ever knew about doing it owned his own trucking company. He finds out you killed a couple 150+ on a specific property a couple years in a row and he'll try to get it out from under you and the price doesnt matter. He lives in central Bama and I'm not naming names. It's not out-of-staters, it's anybody with serious money. There are several timber companies based in AL and owned by AL resident families and they've got 3-5% annual escalation clauses built into every single one of their leases and have been doing it since the early 90's. They lease to a lot of Bama residents. In fact, probably 80% Alabama residents for one that I am very familiar with. When the price per acre has increased 3-5% for the past 30 years, land that used to lease for $4-$8/acre is now $20-$30/acre and if a timber company is getting that kind of money, all the local landowners expect to get paid that for theirs too. Nothing is being taken from you. If you're a Selma local, it is your local landowners that are leasing it to these other people at these high rates. Just tell them not to do it and lease it to you instead. LOL It's not "your land"!! If you owned 20,000 acres, you wouldnt be complaining, you'd be hunting what you wanted to hunt and leasing the rest of it for absolutely as much money as you could get for it, state of residence of who you leased it to, be damned. Your tax dollars dont go for jack chit on hunting land. The only taxes related to that land are paid by the local Alabama resident landowner that is leasing it, not you, and he's like everyone else in the world, trying to make as much as he can. Sorry youre getting left out but you've got two options. Convince a local landowner you know to lease you property at 1980 rates or let you hunt for free, or get a better paying job or win the lottery, so you can buy your own property or lease some out from under someone else. Then you'll be the one everyone is complaining about. Dont hate the player, hate the game. Another thing, New Orleans salaries are crap and the cost of living is not remotely high compared to B'ham, Atlanta, Huntsville, or even Mobile. My beef with the LA guys is that I've never met one that has ever seen a single deer he didnt want to kill. I'l also say that I agree that lease prices have gotten ridiculous but so have prices on trucks, houses, furniture, groceries and everything else. It's called inflation, it hits all areas and it spares nobody. I am an out of stater an hunted in Alabama for 40 years. I have lost leases several times because someone, usually an in stater, offers twice the price. Your argument is flawed. You say in staters own the land. You don't. As a citizen of the state you are an owner of the public access areas. You don't own the private land that gets leased for however much money, tax free. Outdoorsman need to work together and stop bitching. We all want affordable access to decent hunting an fishing. It's just the life we love. Not everyone can afford it. Life is not fair. If you want to take away from those who can and give to those who can't or won't go ask Biden to fix it. It's the same thought process. Done with my rant.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Game Check is not, has not been "FREE". Free for you to use today but we the citizens have paid for its inception...and given all its problems I'll bet the dept has paid out a LOT of money to get it working.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Game Check is not, has not been "FREE". Free for you to use today but we the citizens have paid for its inception...and given all its problems I'll bet the dept has paid out a LOT of money to get it working. Agreed. Department has raised revenue for (non-compliance) in fines. Citizens have gained not a damn thing. Useless statistics.
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Game Check is not, has not been "FREE". Free for you to use today but we the citizens have paid for its inception...and given all its problems I'll bet the dept has paid out a LOT of money to get it working. True, true. It's just like the "free" HIP migratory permit. We've paid for it over the decades in some form or fashion. We just don't need another checking deal -- physical tags -- that we have to pay for, on top of all the other. Just use Game Check, if you're so inclined to do so.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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See I hate it when yall are right. Not sure if on another thread but HOG HUNTING AND COYOTE HUNTING AT NIGHT passed the HOUSE, 98-0 Vote. It's happening, FOR A SMALL FEE per the gent that sponsored the bill. I miss Mr. Charles Kelly! hey Allen, never thought I'd hear you and I say we missed Mr Kelly, but it is a fact.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Where does the money go with things like this? Where is the baiting fee money going? I read somewhere that license sales were up and the state is hiring 15 new game wardens......Does the baiting money just go into the same fund? Who oversees how it gets spent?
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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You folk need to determine what you really mean by “out of staters”. I and my family own over 2700 acres total from three locations and two houses in Alabama but we all have our “residency” in other states. Some of our properties were deeded to our family by Presidents James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, and both Harrisons.
So in a way us “out a staters” can be more resident than some of you good ole punks especially the ones that rent, lease, or own houses on wheels.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Wouldn’t bother me if they did. Same. I don't see the problem? We already have a limit, already have a reporting system, so what's the difference? Already have outlaws who aren't gonna pay one single bit of attention to the "rules" or "tags" anyway. Nobody is going to kill more or less because of "tags". Do you have to pay for the tags?....okay, I'll do that. I suppose there's a tiny chance it would weed out some of the bad. I say it all the time.... Alabama hunters are the dangdest thing I've seen. We gripe and moan about doing the same things that every state we envy has been doing for a lifetime. In the words of C.S. Lewis- " like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea."
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^^^^^ Lot of complaining goes on - did not hear that in the other states I lived in and they had similar laws and they had fewer deer and Turkey tags 😀 (Arky got like 2 buck and 1 turkey where I was at and FL got 2 turkey)
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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THE complaining is a lot from the fact that all of these rules are new TO US IN ALABAMA. We have had very liberal rules for the last 100 years under a very different Dept and certainly better Directors like Charles Kelly. A LOT hunters don't want to be like other states, all hunters aren't looking to kill a B&C buck. They just want to go deer hunting and take their kids hunting without jumping thru 400 hoops or risking criminal prosecution.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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THE complaining is a lot from the fact that all of these rules are new TO US IN ALABAMA. We have had very liberal rules for the last 100 years under a very different Dept and certainly better Directors like Charles Kelly. A LOT hunters don't want to be like other states, all hunters aren't looking to kill a B&C buck. They just want to go deer hunting and take their kids hunting without jumping thru 400 hoops or risking criminal prosecution. I figure its probably getting to be about 50/50 or we wouldn't keep having this issue every year. The bottom line is both sides need to come to some sort of an agreement or we'll end up losing everything. Hunters make up around 10 percent of the population. A vast majority of those remaining would have no problem if any of us ever got the chance to hunt ever again. Our energy would be better spent ensuring our rights are preserved rather than fighting amongst each other. That even comes to in-staters and out-of-staters. I'll eat my crow on my comment above if it means guarantying future generations the right to hunt.
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See I hate it when yall are right. Not sure if on another thread but HOG HUNTING AND COYOTE HUNTING AT NIGHT passed the HOUSE, 98-0 Vote. It's happening, FOR A SMALL FEE per the gent that sponsored the bill. I miss Mr. Charles Kelly! WTF will we need to pay YET ANOTHER fee for hunting coyotes and hogs at night? We already are paying a license. Damn. F'king fees and government overreach. ALWAYS someone with their f'king hand out for money. I miss Charles, too. He could be a dictatorial asshole and hold a grudge, but he stuck up for common sense and the common guy.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Here's the bill info: http://alisondb.legislature.state.a....aspx?BILL=HB458&WIN_TYPE=BillResultSummary: "Hunting, feral swine and coyote hunting at night permitted with an appropriate license under certain circumstances, Sec. 9-11-235 am'd." AGAIN -- WTF is there another license required if you already have a Lifetime or other hunting license? One answer -- Money. The fee would be $15 for residents and $51 for nonresidents. Here is the "engrossed" bill that includes fines and exemptions. I thought exemptions were bad, though, because they're leeches like the field trial folks who didn't buy a license and contribute their fair share. http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/ALISON/SearchableInstruments/2021RS/PrintFiles/HB458-eng.pdfThis is straight-up f'king greedy bullchit.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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I'm just going to go full outlaw.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Just like the Dems in D.C. now, adding more fees on the working class.
I thought we had conservatives in Montgomery. Guess not.
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"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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Well, when is this proposed "special" nighttime hog and coyote hunting season???
I presume (and hope) that it is not during the deer season.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
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I guess soon we'll have a special nighttime license for hunting coons. And one for using dogs, since the dogs are impacting the resources, too.
I'm sure some asswagon in in the Legislature at some point will demand that anyone using a dog to track deer must be certified, registered, licensed and have to pay fees.
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"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Don’t worry, it won’t be long before we will not only have to buy a license, but we’ll have to buy the tags for the deer.
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Just what kind of full outlaw are yooose guys talking about? first rule of outlawing is not to talk about outlawing....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Just what kind of full outlaw are yooose guys talking about? The “outlaw” deep within the inner self when one is of the Kingdom of God and the authority to “kill & eat” comes from God not some puss-nutted law maker.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Clem]
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03/19/21 01:20 PM
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Like it or not, GameCheck already is in place and is free. It's the best free method for GWs to check for compliance and the biologists to accumulate data.
Y'all REALLY want to pay more for the government to mandate something else from you? Because if we ever get physical tags that come from the DCNR, they won't be free. There will be a cost or fee associated with them to pay for them, and that fee or cost will come from you.
If you want to "tag" your deer, use GameCheck. It's free and easy.
Exactly!!!!
Elite Omnia, Easton FMJ, Axcel Landslyde 5 pin slider.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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03/22/21 11:26 PM
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Well. From my perspective some of you guys would bitch if you were given $100,000,000.00 because you might have to pay some tax!
Last time I looked, our season is about half the year, you can hunt with just about any weapon ever made, our license is dirt cheap, and we have deer in areas that 40 years ago had none! So we must be doing something right. Furthermore, I see giant deer killed in this state every year.
You cheap ass’s want to talk about money?! I was paying $25 per acre for a lease I had in Pike county Illinois for 7 years!! No rifle hunting there either! I was grateful to have it too! It was awesome!
How about Iowa? Any of you try to hunt there lately?
Look, bottom line is we live in a free country, with a free economy. Lots of people can afford to lease big chunks because there are a lot of people with a lot of money! The days of having great land and not paying top dollar for the lease are pretty much over. If you don’t own the land then you really have no say so in what happens. Therefore, if you have a tract you like, you damn sure need to make sure you communicate with the land owner and be ready to open that tight ass wallet when the time comes. If you don’t then you will just be another person on this forum crying because they were to cheap to pony up and now some “doctor or lawyer” has your land. Well that’s just the way it goes. Tough schit!
Alabama will get more and more expensive to hunt in. That’s because we have good hunting. Hunting is not a cheap hobby. Not by any standard!
Hunting brings out the worst in people.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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03/23/21 06:32 AM
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Hunting gotten expensive over years BigBore and hard to find land - we lucky we in a free country - good post
Common sense told me not to get In This thread - I did anyway. I had ton Years I never shot a deer - way it goes - I never got jealous over an animal - maybe a woman - this is a pissed off type thread and I gone hop off now - hope u guys keep posting pics - I Lov to see what u killed and what u got on your land - hope u hav great season - hunting supposed to be fun - hope y’all tag out - and I don’t post pics to brag - I new here - I just thought that what everybody did - my friend don’t even hear about what I kill and those stuffed turkeys I posted the other day - pretty much nobody seen them but y’all
Good luck guys - I out on this thread
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Big Bore]
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03/28/21 12:52 AM
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Processors got screwed this year for sure. I believe if one would sue it'd would stop
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Big Bore]
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03/28/21 07:46 AM
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Processors got screwed this year for sure. It didnt hurt any processor or taxidermist anymore than they let it. My taxidermy bussiness was better than it ever was. We already have a form to fill out when its dropped off and only takes a minute to add the game check info.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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03/28/21 08:17 AM
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I don’t use a processor here but it’s on the Hunter to have all this info, license #, conformation #, address and the typical tag info for any wild game dropped off at a processor or taxidermist. You don’t have the game tagged right you leave with it. Tag stays with game until owner gets it back home. Pretty simple process and only burden on processor or taxidermist is keeping tag with the game.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Big Bore]
#3380720
03/28/21 08:38 AM
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Processors got screwed this year for sure. This was the first year I can remember that I saw processors turn deer away because their coolers were full. I saw 2 in Morgan county reach full capacity and stop taking deer.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
#3380744
03/28/21 09:12 AM
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several processors in Bibb and Tuscaloosa close for short periods last season to catch up. A bunch of them did so this year for same reasons.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Clem]
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03/28/21 09:52 AM
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ALclearcut
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I was born and raised in Alabama and bought a lifetime license when I was 16 so I'd never have to worry about whether I could hunt the family farm, no matter where I lived. Moved out of state for a new job and now I have to pay $102 a year for the "privilege" to pour out a bag of corn and try to get the invasive hogs off the place at night. I harped on this 2 years ago when the state made us pay for the "privilege" to bait. Most were just so happy they could legally bait that they didn't care about the horrible precedent the state was setting by declaring any new means of hunting to be a privilege requiring a permit and fee. And here we go with the hog permit 2 years later. The next one I predict......you will be able to buy the privilege of killing a 4th buck. DCNR and the state is losing all credibility in its stated mission of managing the natural resources (not to mention simply keeping their word to lifetime license purchasers). Either a method of hunting is harmful to the resource, or it isn't. If it isn't harming the resource and they want to allow it, it should be allowed under a general hunting license. If it is harming the resources, then you shouldn't be able to buy a permit to do it anyways. If they legitimately need more money, then raise the cost of the general hunting license. My lifetime license continues to pay the state in perpetuity through investment income and it will continue long after I am dead. If people knew upfront that a lifetime license was not going to include new hunting methods in the future, most would not have bought one. At this pace in 20 years, having a lifetime license will be pointless because the cost of all the permits needed to hunt using modern methods will far exceed the cost of the general license. And just for frame of reference......a lifetime Florida license includes all additional permits. Alabama didn't have to do it this way but they chose to as a sneaky way to impose a new hunting tax in a state where voters don't tend to vote for new taxes.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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03/28/21 12:13 PM
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I'll be damned if I'll buy a license to kill coyotes menacing my chickens, etc. on my own property.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Davyalabama]
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03/28/21 12:22 PM
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And again they piss and moan about the numbers of hunter are going down and can't figure out why They sure are doing all they can to bring in out-of-staters! And again they piss and moan about the numbers of hunter are going down and can't figure out why They sure are doing all they can to bring in out-of-staters! The out of state Hunters aren't the 1's dumping their garbage all over the roads & woods by the truckloads. Neither are they the 1's Breaking into camps, Stealing & destroying peoples hard earned property.. The vast Majority of this is thanks to your Locals sir..
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: hamma]
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03/28/21 06:15 PM
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And again they piss and moan about the numbers of hunter are going down and can't figure out why They sure are doing all they can to bring in out-of-staters! And again they piss and moan about the numbers of hunter are going down and can't figure out why They sure are doing all they can to bring in out-of-staters! The out of state Hunters aren't the 1's dumping their garbage all over the roads & woods by the truckloads. Neither are they the 1's Breaking into camps, Stealing & destroying peoples hard earned property.. The vast Majority of this is thanks to your Locals sir.. BOOOM!!!!
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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04/03/21 02:03 PM
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I'm just going to go full outlaw..... Thermal scope and suppressor will help you not get caught. LOL
I love my country, but don't trust my government.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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04/03/21 07:51 PM
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I'm just going to go full outlaw..... Lol I am a reformed outlaw but I have a line drawn in the sand that will force me revert back to my old ways .....or quit hunting .
Super Predator
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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04/19/21 10:01 AM
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I'll be damned if I'll buy a license to kill coyotes menacing my chickens, etc. on my own property. Ditto for the hogs within gunshot of my house...
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: gman]
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04/23/21 08:53 AM
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Boy, the royals sure are being generous with their game... the "royals" better remember what a guillotine is.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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04/23/21 10:03 AM
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CNC
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If I'm not mistaken.......the guillotine is supposed to actually be one of the quickest and most "humane" deaths of this manner.....It was the psychological impact of seeing someone's head chopped off that I believe put an end to the practice.....I've been told that they actually did some experimenting with it and that people were still having brain wave functions occurring for I think it was maybe 10-15 seconds after being decapitated and they determined this through some kind of eye blink test......I mean, you've severed the spinal chord so I wouldn't think you would be feeling a whole lot of pain for those 10-15 seconds......and anyone who was still able to take part in a headless eye blink survey couldnt be in too much agony or they would just bawk on participating I would think.......but......who knows.
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/05/21 03:14 PM
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Clem
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
Last edited by Clem; 05/05/21 03:15 PM.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/05/21 03:30 PM
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Clem
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"It's just $15, can't you do that?"
"It's just a mask, can't you wear that?"
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Clem]
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05/05/21 03:32 PM
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Nightwatchman
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"It's just $15, can't you do that?"
"It's just a mask, can't you wear that?"
Spot on. Burns me up.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: abolt300]
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05/05/21 08:06 PM
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If it is an animal that I feel needs to be killed at night (coyote, bobcat, pig or coon), I'll just keep on killing them like I have for the past 30 yrs. Not wearing a mask and not getting a "chuckie permit" to do it. AMEN!!
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Frankie]
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05/06/21 08:36 AM
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Clem just hush and pay it . It's for herd management. Dude on the book of faces said that..."well, it's going for conservation. You not for conservation".
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: gman]
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05/06/21 05:51 PM
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Clem just hush and pay it . It's for herd management. Dude on the book of faces said that..."well, it's going for conservation. You not for conservation". I love question like that . Can they show me how the money Will be spent
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/06/21 09:45 PM
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Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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It's damn hard not to agree when you read or listen to what they say . They passed the baiting bill with a fee because it would cost the fine revenue if they did add the fee. This saved the GW no time to devote to other crimes cause they still have to check hunters at baited sites to see if he's legal . Will be the same with the night hunting . GM sees you out they gonna check It's BS
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Clem]
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05/06/21 11:02 PM
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
Totally agree. I bought a lifetime license in 07 and WON’T spend another dime for a “privilege” of any kind. Especially from something that just gets shoved down our throats
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: twaldrop4]
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05/07/21 05:21 AM
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
Totally agree. I bought a lifetime license in 07 and WON’T spend another dime for a “privilege” of any kind. Especially from something that just gets shoved down our throats To my knowledge, nobody is forcing you to hunt over corn, or hunt hogs or coyotes at night? How’s that being forced down your throat?
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Clem]
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05/07/21 05:32 AM
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/07/21 06:55 AM
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Nightwatchman
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little. Wrong thing to say here buddy. If you can't figure out why everyone is pissed that licenses continue to get more expensive every year, you are the one who needs to reevaluate.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/07/21 06:57 AM
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Nightwatchman
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little. I bet you're pro physical deer tags too.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Nightwatchman]
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05/07/21 07:14 AM
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JLedbetter
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little. Wrong thing to say here buddy. If you can't figure out why everyone is pissed that licenses continue to get more expensive every year, you are the one who needs to reevaluate. Everything gets more expensive every year buddy, ridiculous to think yall cry babies are griping about having to spend .16 cents a day to hunt.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Nightwatchman]
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05/07/21 07:17 AM
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JLedbetter
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little. I bet you're pro physical deer tags too. It really makes me no difference, we do whatever we need to do here in vinegar bend. With that said, everyone wants to have hunting like other states until it's time to do the things other states do. So tell me, what are the downsides to physical deer tags?
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/07/21 07:40 AM
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lots of "advice" from fkn newbies around here.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Slider]
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05/07/21 08:27 AM
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twaldrop4
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
Totally agree. I bought a lifetime license in 07 and WON’T spend another dime for a “privilege” of any kind. Especially from something that just gets shoved down our throats To my knowledge, nobody is forcing you to hunt over corn, or hunt hogs or coyotes at night? How’s that being forced down your throat? Because all it is, is government overstep and people who simply roll over will be the first ones to whine when it effects something they are interested in. I haven’t hunted over corn in 15 years it doesn’t appeal to me, so the permit is of no consequence other than government overrreach. And I will shoot a coyote or hog whenever I dang well please.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/07/21 08:39 AM
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little. This is the logic that has allowed the government in this country to get in the shape it is in. Republican and democrat
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/07/21 09:30 AM
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BCLC
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I’ve got an Out back issued Lifetime License. All privileges included at no additional cost. One key thing you have to agree to before license is issued though. Shut your mouth and don’t post chit on social media about what you kill....PERIOD.
Problem solved.
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/07/21 09:48 AM
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Posts: 1,501 Tuscaloosa, AL
Nightwatchman
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little. I bet you're pro physical deer tags too. It really makes me no difference, we do whatever we need to do here in vinegar bend. With that said, everyone wants to have hunting like other states until it's time to do the things other states do. So tell me, what are the downsides to physical deer tags? You think they will be free? There will be a charge tacked on to licenses to make up thousands of physical deer tags and distribute them to thousands of deer hunters in this state. We will tote the bill for it. Blows my mind how people overlook that kind of thing. It's like people don't have sense enough to understand that all of this crap comes at a cost and we will be the ones paying for it. I liken hunters who want more regulation to white collar liberals. It makes ZERO sense and they still advocate for stuff like physical deer tags, more "privileges" to pay for, more hunting regs and other crap tacked on to the cost of an already increasingly expensive license. It never stops, and regulations never go away, more just get added. If you want a physical deer tag, get on a computer, pull up excel and make one, wrap it around a main beam, and pretend your in Iowa. But don't impose that crap on everyone.
Last edited by Nightwatchman; 05/07/21 09:50 AM.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/07/21 10:30 AM
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Tags don't have to cost a penny. They can be made out of anything and include whatever required info is requested on them before being attached to the deer.
Ohio DNR does this and it works fine without requiring yet another fee from the government.
But thinking "It's just a few more bucks, you should pay it" is how we continue to go down the path of more mandates.
Perhaps we should have commercial hunting lodge licenses paid to the DCNR. These lodges have to have business licenses, but NONE of that money goes to the DCNR, yet these lodges are in business of hunting the animals that belong to everyone, i.e. "the state." So maybe we need a hunting lodge privilege license of several hundred a year, or a tiered system based on land and number of hunters.
Another great idea would be a Guide/Outfitter Privilege License fee, paid annually. Anyone engaged in the act of guiding, outfitting, helping or assisting said guides and outfitters, at hunting or fishing lodges, would be required to pay their fair share.
Fishing guides are using public waters as a commercial business, freshwater and saltwater. Definitely should make sure they're paying their fair share.
Lot of possibilities for more of these "privilege" fees and licenses.
And anyone who doesn't think the "privilege license" for bait will increase from $15 to something more in just a few years, you're delusional. Someone will come up with how it's "such an impact, with all this corn and bait out there!" and will propose to jack it to $25 or $30 in the name of "conservation." And none of y'all buying it will blink an eye.
Alabama's legislators say they're conservative but they're just like the liberals in D.C.: Impose new fees and mandates, wait a few years, increase it, ask for more, hook you into the "pay your fair share" routine, shame others who don't agree, continually want more, reinforce the socialist "for the good of society!" mantra, and take more and more.
Last edited by Clem; 05/07/21 10:56 AM.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Clem]
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05/07/21 11:26 AM
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Nightwatchman
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Tags don't have to cost a penny. They can be made out of anything and include whatever required info is requested on them before being attached to the deer.
Ohio DNR does this and it works fine without requiring yet another fee from the government.
But thinking "It's just a few more bucks, you should pay it" is how we continue to go down the path of more mandates.
Perhaps we should have commercial hunting lodge licenses paid to the DCNR. These lodges have to have business licenses, but NONE of that money goes to the DCNR, yet these lodges are in business of hunting the animals that belong to everyone, i.e. "the state." So maybe we need a hunting lodge privilege license of several hundred a year, or a tiered system based on land and number of hunters.
Another great idea would be a Guide/Outfitter Privilege License fee, paid annually. Anyone engaged in the act of guiding, outfitting, helping or assisting said guides and outfitters, at hunting or fishing lodges, would be required to pay their fair share.
Fishing guides are using public waters as a commercial business, freshwater and saltwater. Definitely should make sure they're paying their fair share.
Lot of possibilities for more of these "privilege" fees and licenses.
And anyone who doesn't think the "privilege license" for bait will increase from $15 to something more in just a few years, you're delusional. Someone will come up with how it's "such an impact, with all this corn and bait out there!" and will propose to jack it to $25 or $30 in the name of "conservation." And none of y'all buying it will blink an eye.
Alabama's legislators say they're conservative but they're just like the liberals in D.C.: Impose new fees and mandates, wait a few years, increase it, ask for more, hook you into the "pay your fair share" routine, shame others who don't agree, continually want more, reinforce the socialist "for the good of society!" mantra, and take more and more.
If they don't cost anything and can be made up on our own, I guess I don't have a problem with it, but without a standardized tag issued by the state I don't see how its much different than just an honor system...which is basically what we have now with gamecheck
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Clem]
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05/07/21 04:42 PM
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JLedbetter
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Tags don't have to cost a penny. They can be made out of anything and include whatever required info is requested on them before being attached to the deer.
Ohio DNR does this and it works fine without requiring yet another fee from the government.
But thinking "It's just a few more bucks, you should pay it" is how we continue to go down the path of more mandates.
Perhaps we should have commercial hunting lodge licenses paid to the DCNR. These lodges have to have business licenses, but NONE of that money goes to the DCNR, yet these lodges are in business of hunting the animals that belong to everyone, i.e. "the state." So maybe we need a hunting lodge privilege license of several hundred a year, or a tiered system based on land and number of hunters.
Another great idea would be a Guide/Outfitter Privilege License fee, paid annually. Anyone engaged in the act of guiding, outfitting, helping or assisting said guides and outfitters, at hunting or fishing lodges, would be required to pay their fair share.
Fishing guides are using public waters as a commercial business, freshwater and saltwater. Definitely should make sure they're paying their fair share.
Lot of possibilities for more of these "privilege" fees and licenses.
And anyone who doesn't think the "privilege license" for bait will increase from $15 to something more in just a few years, you're delusional. Someone will come up with how it's "such an impact, with all this corn and bait out there!" and will propose to jack it to $25 or $30 in the name of "conservation." And none of y'all buying it will blink an eye.
Alabama's legislators say they're conservative but they're just like the liberals in D.C.: Impose new fees and mandates, wait a few years, increase it, ask for more, hook you into the "pay your fair share" routine, shame others who don't agree, continually want more, reinforce the socialist "for the good of society!" mantra, and take more and more.
This guy has enough sense to realize, the state doesn't have to send you the tags. Glad someone does. Outfitters should absolutely have to pay. As far as the privilege licenses go, no one is forced to buy them. So it doesn't really matter if the price does increase, pay it or don't. It's your decision.
Last edited by JLedbetter; 05/07/21 04:44 PM.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/07/21 04:52 PM
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JLedbetter
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lots of "advice" from fkn newbies around here. Lots of irrelevant comments from others as well.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/08/21 03:59 PM
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BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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must be a fkn democrat....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/08/21 05:38 PM
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must be a fkn democrat.... Oh look, someone setting around without adding anything constructive to the conversation. That would make you identical to your liberal brethren, who set on their azzes and add nothing to society. Sorry, name calling and ignorant commentary does not make your opinion any more valid, but it does prove that you have no sensible rebuttal. Good day sir
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/08/21 07:10 PM
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Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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must be a fkn democrat.... Oh look, someone setting around without adding anything constructive to the conversation. That would make you identical to your liberal brethren, who set on their azzes and add nothing to society. Sorry, name calling and ignorant commentary does not make your opinion any more valid, but it does prove that you have no sensible rebuttal. Good day sir Lol ,,,, you made that reply out of ignorance newbie
Last edited by Frankie; 05/08/21 07:16 PM.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Frankie]
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05/08/21 08:19 PM
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must be a fkn democrat.... Oh look, someone setting around without adding anything constructive to the conversation. That would make you identical to your liberal brethren, who set on their azzes and add nothing to society. Sorry, name calling and ignorant commentary does not make your opinion any more valid, but it does prove that you have no sensible rebuttal. Good day sir Lol ,,,, you made that reply out of ignorance newbie Oh look, another guy that thinks post count on an internet forum relates to experience in anything.... You have anything constructive to add or what?
Last edited by JLedbetter; 05/08/21 08:23 PM.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/08/21 10:01 PM
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Farmer Brown
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must be a fkn democrat.... Oh look, someone setting around without adding anything constructive to the conversation. That would make you identical to your liberal brethren, who set on their azzes and add nothing to society. Sorry, name calling and ignorant commentary does not make your opinion any more valid, but it does prove that you have no sensible rebuttal. Good day sir Lol ,,,, you made that reply out of ignorance newbie Oh look, another guy that thinks post count on an internet forum relates to experience in anything.... You have anything constructive to add or what? Yep, settle down, newbie.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/08/21 11:17 PM
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James
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Shittttttt i believes BhamFred has been to Africas like 3 times 🤣
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/09/21 01:34 AM
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Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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must be a fkn democrat.... Oh look, someone setting around without adding anything constructive to the conversation. That would make you identical to your liberal brethren, who set on their azzes and add nothing to society. Sorry, name calling and ignorant commentary does not make your opinion any more valid, but it does prove that you have no sensible rebuttal. Good day sir Lol ,,,, you made that reply out of ignorance newbie Oh look, another guy that thinks post count on an internet forum relates to experience in anything.... You have anything constructive to add or what? My reply had nothing to you had nothing to do with this topic . You made a statement based of your ignorance of BhamFred
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: James]
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05/09/21 01:37 AM
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Old Mossy Horns
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Shittttttt i believes BhamFred has been to Africas like 3 times 🤣 Problem with newbies, some times their fingers work faster than their brain
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: James]
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05/09/21 08:46 AM
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Shittttttt i believes BhamFred has been to Africas like 3 times 🤣 You want Alabama to start adopting regulations from Africa? 😂😂😂
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/09/21 08:49 AM
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Shittttttt i believes BhamFred has been to Africas like 3 times 🤣 You want Alabama to start adopting regulations from Africa? 😂😂😂 I'm sorry you can't afford $15 per year, chin up buddy.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/09/21 09:01 AM
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James
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Shittttttt i believes BhamFred has been to Africas like 3 times 🤣 You want Alabama to start adopting regulations from Africa? 😂😂😂 I'm sorry you can't afford $15 per year, chin up buddy. No IDOT, you made the comment about folks needing to get out of bama sometime. And no worries i can afford the $15 bucks...
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/09/21 09:03 AM
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Lets try this again.
I have hunted Africa, Scotland, Canada, and a dozen states. All had different rules and regulations. Big deal.
What I , and most on here, object to is being nickled and dimed to death by a department that cares more about money than our resources. It's a cheap chitt way to run a CONSERVATION department.
try putting yer brain in gear BEFORE running that mouth.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/09/21 09:17 AM
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Lets try this again.
I have hunted Africa, Scotland, Canada, and a dozen states. All had different rules and regulations. Big deal.
What I , and most on here, object to is being nickled and dimed to death by a department that cares more about money than our resources. It's a cheap chitt way to run a CONSERVATION department.
try putting yer brain in gear BEFORE running that mouth. they are not forcing you to purchase those extra licenses, I'm not sure how hard that is to grasp. If you don't want to purchase or can't afford to purchase, then you don't have to. If you want to bait/shoot yotes or hogs at night without purchasing the licenses, then do it. You gripe about it, but If you were still a warden, you wo trip over yourself to write a ticket for the same things you don't agree with.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/09/21 09:23 AM
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Mr. newbie, if you don't slow your roll your post count is gonna come to an abrupt stop. The feller who owns this forum WILL drop his big hammer on you like a bolt of lightening.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: 2Dogs]
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05/09/21 09:30 AM
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Mr. newbie, if you don't slow your roll your post count is gonna come to an abrupt stop. The feller who owns this forum WILL drop his big hammer on you like a bolt of lightening.
It's his forum he has that right. 👍👍 I've done nothing in this thread that the others aren't doing. I would think I should be able to share my opinions on current regulation dilemmas, same as everyone else.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/09/21 01:20 PM
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Frankie
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Mr. newbie, if you don't slow your roll your post count is gonna come to an abrupt stop. The feller who owns this forum WILL drop his big hammer on you like a bolt of lightening.
It's his forum he has that right. 👍👍 I've done nothing in this thread that the others aren't doing. I would think I should be able to share my opinions on current regulation dilemmas, same as everyone else. I must have missed those opinion .
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/09/21 01:49 PM
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Here4fun
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Apparently the coyote-hog nighttime "privilege license" has been signed off and is done.
$15 for residents and $51 for non-residents to hunt hogs and coyotes at night without going through the depredation permitting stuff.
To recap, if you hunt deer over bait and also hogs-coyotes, you will need to buy:
- a hunting license for $28.20 - the coyote-hog privilege license, $15 -- the baiting privilege license, $15
That comes to $58.20 a year IF you choose to buy those. They're not mandatory. But if you want to shoot a hog or coyote at night and be legal, you're supposed to have it.
Sixty bucks adds up if you have a couple of kids. Wife, 2-3 kids, yourself, and now you're at $240 or more. For nonresidents with land in the state, they're getting screwed even more.
For those of us with Lifetime Licenses, now are being told that our "privilege" comes at added cost. That's BS.
I've seen several "Aw, it's just $15 bucks" comments on BookFace. But this is the second "aw, it's just $15 bucks" licesen added in the last couple of years. Next will be something else. And then something else. And then something else. Possibly a "privilege license" to use a bow or muzzleloader or centerfire gun.
Once they start, they won't stop. This is only the beginning.
If your that concerned about $60 a year, you may need to step back and reevaluate things a little. I bet you're pro physical deer tags too. It really makes me no difference, we do whatever we need to do here in vinegar bend. With that said, everyone wants to have hunting like other states until it's time to do the things other states do. So tell me, what are the downsides to physical deer tags? Do you really think everyone wants Alabama to be like others states? I dont think they do. I think the majority in Alabama like things like they are.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/09/21 01:56 PM
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lots of "advice" from fkn newbies around here. Not from all newbies here , just a couple. Dont let these 2 guys make us all look bad. Theyre obviously friends and argumentive. They joined the same time and post in the same threads. Theyre just trying to rile yall. Ive lurked here for 15 years and I bet theyll be short lived on here.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Here4fun]
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05/09/21 02:13 PM
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lots of "advice" from fkn newbies around here. Not from all newbies here , just a couple. Dont let these 2 guys make us all look bad. Theyre obviously friends and argumentive. They joined the same time and post in the same threads. Theyre just trying to rile yall. Ive lurked here for 15 years and I bet theyll be short lived on here. I don't know anyone here as far as I know, but my whole point was, $60 a year is a steal, and you are not required to purchase the extras. But I'll leave this one alone, since yall are so sensitive about it. 😉
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/09/21 03:28 PM
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2Dogs
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I'm real sensitive , I own my own property , I bought a lifetime license the day they went on sale . I've paid them all I'm going to.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: 2Dogs]
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05/09/21 03:31 PM
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I'm real sensitive , I own my own property , I bought a lifetime license the day they went on sale . I've paid them all I'm going to. Me 2
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/09/21 03:36 PM
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I they outta issue tags based on post count numbers from aldeer. There. Problem solved. Good day and good night sir
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: 257wbymag]
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05/09/21 04:18 PM
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I they outta issue tags based on post count numbers from aldeer. There. Problem solved. Good day and good night sir 😂😂😂
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: kyles]
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05/09/21 07:45 PM
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Speaking of BS What happened at the cab meeting yesterday? JLedbetter kept seconding all their motions.
"Life is 10 percent what happens to you and 90 percent how you react to it."
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: 2Dogs]
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05/09/21 08:04 PM
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I'm real sensitive , I own my own property , I bought a lifetime license the day they went on sale . I've paid them all I'm going to. same
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/10/21 05:59 AM
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Many of us bought lifetime hunting license with the promise/understanding we would not have to purchase another license to hunt any game animal in Alabama These new licenses, permits and the like are a breach of that promise and makes them all LIARS !!! These folks have broken their oath of office by lying to the people of Alabama and have broken the law and should be removed from office and/or prosecuted
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/10/21 06:46 AM
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newby JLedbettter would say you don't have to buy the license.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/10/21 07:03 AM
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newby JLedbettter would say you don't have to buy the license. That’s funny because the state said the same thing after I bought the lifetime hunting and fishing license
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/10/21 07:55 AM
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newby JLedbettter would say you don't have to buy the license. It’s obvious that a lot of you are not familiar with Vinegar Bend, AL and the fine upstanding residents of that area. They’ve been trespassing, hunting over corn and a night hunting down there, forever. Donnie Stallworth, Mary Anne, and their boys couldn’t stop it and they owned, literally, 10s of thousands of acres around there. Buncha serious outlaws down there. JLedbetter is probably just excited to pay his $60 so he can quit looking over his shoulder every time he walks out the front door carrying a gun. He did say, “we do what we want to in Vinegar Bend”. Donnie always said, no sense in trying to catch and prosecute them, they’ll just get out in less than 24 hrs and start burning all your timber or your house to the ground.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/10/21 08:51 AM
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Lets try this again.
I have hunted Africa, Scotland, Canada, and a dozen states. All had different rules and regulations. Big deal.
What I , and most on here, object to is being nickled and dimed to death by a department that cares more about money than our resources. It's a cheap chitt way to run a CONSERVATION department.
try putting yer brain in gear BEFORE running that mouth. they are not forcing you to purchase those extra licenses, I'm not sure how hard that is to grasp. If you don't want to purchase or can't afford to purchase, then you don't have to. If you want to bait/shoot yotes or hogs at night without purchasing the licenses, then do it. You gripe about it, but If you were still a warden, you wo trip over yourself to write a ticket for the same things you don't agree with. Ummmm, if i'd like to fish the gulf offshore, don't i HAVE to purchase a reef permit? That's just a way to get around the lifetime fishing licenses. Don't give 2 rat's arse hairs about shooting yotes or pigs at night...nobody would hear me do it anyways, but again, it's just another way for them to get their foot in the door for future fees.
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: abolt300]
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05/10/21 11:04 AM
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newby JLedbettter would say you don't have to buy the license. It’s obvious that a lot of you are not familiar with Vinegar Bend, AL and the fine upstanding residents of that area. They’ve been trespassing, hunting over corn and a night hunting down there, forever. Donnie Stallworth, Mary Anne, and their boys couldn’t stop it and they owned, literally, 10s of thousands of acres around there. Buncha serious outlaws down there. JLedbetter is probably just excited to pay his $60 so he can quit looking over his shoulder every time he walks out the front door carrying a gun. He did say, “we do want we want to in Vinegar Bend”. Donnie always said, no sense in trying to catch and prosecute them, they’ll just get out in less than 24 hrs and start burning all your timber or your house to the ground. Ain't nobody ever been in Washington County that worried me enough to make me look over my shoulder 😉 I never said I was gonna pay anyway. Donnie was always good to exaggerate anything that happened.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/10/21 12:52 PM
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You gripe about it, but If you were still a warden, you wo trip over yourself to write a ticket for the same things you don't agree with. you don't know anything about me but I see that doesn't stop yer dumb ass from running that mouth...
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: JLedbetter]
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05/10/21 02:03 PM
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lots of "advice" from fkn newbies around here. Not from all newbies here , just a couple. Dont let these 2 guys make us all look bad. Theyre obviously friends and argumentive. They joined the same time and post in the same threads. Theyre just trying to rile yall. Ive lurked here for 15 years and I bet theyll be short lived on here. I don't know anyone here as far as I know, but my whole point was, $60 a year is a steal, and you are not required to purchase the extras. But I'll leave this one alone, since yall are so sensitive about it. 😉 Would you not agree that to open the season on hogs would be a good idea? As in FOR FREE year round 24\7. Hogs are a non native species that destroys many things. I shoot every single one I see, 300# to a 5 # newborn, I have an old beat to hell AK that I keep in the tractor just for this purpose. Would you not agree that the best idea the department of conservation could have would be to do whatever they could to encourage hunters to remove these non native animals? Its great that they will be "allowing" night hunting of hogs but only if you give them $$$. Its just about the money, they dont have the best interests of Alabamas wildlife in mind. They are like whores, just want the money.
I love my country, but don't trust my government.
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/10/21 04:41 PM
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the dept bitches about hunter numbers and new hunter recruitment then does everything in it's power to make it harder on new folks to get into hunting.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/10/21 06:13 PM
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I am not a nite hog r coyote hunter - but surprised they would make it more difficult to kill those types of animals - especially the hog that can destroy good Alabama habitat and do away with the hunting heritage we lov. Heck - we need to put a bounty on them to wipe the suckers out
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: abolt300]
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05/10/21 11:32 PM
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newby JLedbettter would say you don't have to buy the license. It’s obvious that a lot of you are not familiar with Vinegar Bend, AL and the fine upstanding residents of that area. They’ve been trespassing, hunting over corn and a night hunting down there, forever. Donnie Stallworth, Mary Anne, and their boys couldn’t stop it and they owned, literally, 10s of thousands of acres around there. Buncha serious outlaws down there. JLedbetter is probably just excited to pay his $60 so he can quit looking over his shoulder every time he walks out the front door carrying a gun. He did say, “we do what we want to in Vinegar Bend”. Donnie always said, no sense in trying to catch and prosecute them, they’ll just get out in less than 24 hrs and start burning all your timber or your house to the ground. Yep 🤣🤣🤣
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/12/21 01:38 AM
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Frankie
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Looks like season will run July thru October
Must written permission from landowner
If you own the land you can apply for a permit to hunt nuisance animal, ,,,,, no fee
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/12/21 10:07 AM
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Let the hogs reign
Wait - there may be no hunting season one day if we do that. What is Alabama thinking
This is stupid - glad I ever did lifetime license and glad I don’t nite hunt
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/12/21 02:45 PM
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You would think any such "season" would be May 1 until end of September.
July thru October sounds a little off. Not that I agree with the license part of it.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: WINMAG300]
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05/12/21 07:07 PM
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July 1 to start for this year only. After this year Feb 11 to approx Nov 10. Or at least that's what it said in one of the David Ranier articles. Basically no night hunting during gun deer season. Will be interesting to see if it is allowed during bow season though. Well what date does your bow season open on?
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Alabama Regulations next year
[Re: Smann]
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05/13/21 12:46 PM
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Mama said yall need ta git out the house an play..for she starts stripin legs...
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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