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Bismuth in stock? #3342225
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I’m wanting to buy some of the $35/box stuff and no one has any in stock. Anybody know where I can find any? #4’s if possible.

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You needing 2 3/4 or 3"?

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Check out these from Boss Shotshells. I think they have some in stock, but I don’t know how long they take to ship. These are 3” but they sell 2 3/4 as well.


https://bossshotshells.com/products/12-ga-3-mag-1-3-8-oz-4/

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Kent Bismuth is a good shell, if you can find them. I shoot them out of my 20. Try Mack's Prairie Wings. Its tough to find at the end of a normal year, probably be extremely difficult to find this year. Wing Supply had some Bismuth shot earlier in the season, not sure of the brand.

Re: Bismuth in stock? [Re: Remington270] #3342325
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Just ordered some heavy from basspro

Re: Bismuth in stock? [Re: Remington270] #3342551
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Boss.


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Re: Bismuth in stock? [Re: Remington270] #3342569
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Shot Boss this year. Really like it and beats spending time reloading. Reloading steel is a very slow process.


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Re: Bismuth in stock? [Re: cartervj] #3342625
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Shot Boss this year. Really like it and beats spending time reloading. Reloading steel is a very slow process.


So, what shot size do you use for the duck/yardage combo you encounter? My only opportunity is wood duck, but some of the shots are passing at long range. I shot 3” steel 2’s and crippled a bunch and had to water swat or break necks. I really think most of that is my poor shooting. But, if I switch to Boss bismuth, I’m trying to decide on 3’s vs 4’s in the more dense alloy. And hopefully increase pellet count.

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For woodies I’d go 4s out of what you mentioned. I shot 3x5s on decoying birds. It really folded them up.

It did remind me of the days of lead shot which I shot 4s back then.


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Thanks !

Re: Bismuth in stock? [Re: cartervj] #3342754
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Originally Posted by cartervj
For woodies I’d go 4s out of what you mentioned. I shot 3x5s on decoying birds. It really folded them up.

It did remind me of the days of lead shot which I shot 4s back then.

Lead was your friend. We would load shells with4s or 5s and have so much shot in them some we would melt wax on top to keep shot from coming out.

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Alabama Woodies - for a 20 gauge, I usually go with 3 inch, 1 oz, #3 or #4. For 12 gauge, I go with 2 3/4 inch, 1 1/4 oz #3 or #4. Shots are usually less than 30 yards.

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I shot the BOSS 3x5's also this year. Gives a good mix of shot and seemed to work well. The 3 inch shells hit as hard as any 3 1/2 inch shell I have used with significantly less recoil. Ducks were mostly killed dead when I did my part.

Will be ordering another case for next year and may add a case of #3's for late season. The past 3 years I have shot significantly less. Just wanted to make sure that I capitalized on my limited opportunities. After shooting them for 2 years, I won't go back to steel.

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Choke that bismuth tight, like lead.

I better order some before all you sum bitches deplete their stock.

The 20 GA 2 3/4 #5 are hell on ducks and light geese.


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Re: Bismuth in stock? [Re: TickaTicka] #3343069
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Originally Posted by TickaTicka
Boss.

sssshhhhh!!


experience is a freakin' awesome teacher....
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Originally Posted by Drake322
You needing 2 3/4 or 3"?

3” preferably
Originally Posted by donia
Originally Posted by TickaTicka
Boss.

sssshhhhh!!


Best I can tell BOSS and Hevi Bismuth are the same except for a copper coating on BOSS and 20 shells per box instead of 25.

Re: Bismuth in stock? [Re: Remington270] #3343166
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I like the idea of bismuth, but I want better than that. I want 12 g/cc tungsten or better. Dont shoot enough to worry about cost at all. Will still shoot cheap steel on ringers and woodies but want something badarse to wreck pintails and mallards with late season. Who makes it? Or is there a source to get some shot density in between TSS and lead that would make it worth my while to load my own?


"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Kent Tungsten was always a favorite, when I found them on sale...not seen a decent sale on them in a while!
Apex is a Miss'ippi company that has a TSS load and a TSS/Steel mix load for waterfowl.
I've also shot HEVI and liked them


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Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
I like the idea of bismuth, but I want better than that. I want 12 g/cc tungsten or better. Dont shoot enough to worry about cost at all. Will still shoot cheap steel on ringers and woodies but want something badarse to wreck pintails and mallards with late season. Who makes it? Or is there a source to get some shot density in between TSS and lead that would make it worth my while to load my own?


Just buy straight up TSS from Apex. $4+/shot though...

And yes, true Hevi-13 is 13g/cc density.

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Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
I like the idea of bismuth, but I want better than that. I want 12 g/cc tungsten or better. Dont shoot enough to worry about cost at all. Will still shoot cheap steel on ringers and woodies but want something badarse to wreck pintails and mallards with late season. Who makes it? Or is there a source to get some shot density in between TSS and lead that would make it worth my while to load my own?


Kent Tungsten Matrix

https://kentcartridge.com/us/shotshell/tungsten-matrix

Edit: my bad I thought this stuff was 12g/cc but it’s only around 11

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I remember 15 years ago buying that tungsten matrix for $12/box of 10 shells. I thought that was outrageous. I should of bought every box I could of found.


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Since we are going down memory lane, the old Hevisteel (not the current garbage) that had tungsten mixed in was a devastating shell. I'd shoot geese way further than I should of with that stuff.

I might have a few boxes left somewhere for a rainy day. 😀


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My friend in Green Bay used to go buy out close out sales.

He’d call and ask what we wanted.

Their season would end first of November and it wasn’t long til the stores would try to deplete stock. Hevi-shot 10 round boxes for less than $10. We used number 7 a lot on divers since most shots were as close as 15 yards.


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My Son is on Boss Shells Pro Staff. He orders 250 at a time. they come in a bag and you just load blind bag. I have not shot any yet but he loves them. He says that his A5 circa 1960 with a mod bbl is hell on the ducks using 2 3/4 #4.

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I shot 3" #5's from Boss this entire season through my 20ga's. I was nothing short of impressed with its performance. I'll be doing the same next year.


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BOSS are in stock right now, I discovered.

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Boss are awesome folks. We were across from them 2020 NWTF. Was hoping to be there this year but....

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