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For you guys shooting a bunch of does…..
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What is the habitat surrounding your property like in comparison to yours?......Would you rate the surrounding property as more productive, less productive, or equal to the habitat on your hunting land? Do the neighbors shoot the same amount of does?
I’m wondering if folks who are shooting a doe for every 50-75 acres are replacing them annually by having doe groups from surrounding properties shift around a little within their home range that overlaps the neighbors properties. There’s a void to be filled in a better spot so the doe groups shifts to fill them….That changes depending on if you have neighbors shooting or not shooting a bunch of does though
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I have 2 does in my yard...the number never goes up..or down...seems like..they have one baby make it..between them..an one of the does dies or moves off..there is no other habitat..besides subdivisions across the holler...thang is...i cant ever get a picture of what knocks them up...i aint seen a buck yet..of any kind..goin on 4 years.
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Lot of different timber varieties around here with me managing mine more for wildlife than others. I’m pretty sure the does here produce enough to overcome cause we don’t kill but 1-2 a year on around 400 acres of neighbors not sure outside of that what’s killed.
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We've killed 3 mature does so far on 500 acres in South Pickens county the surrounding properties and farms don't shoot many and they are starting to talk about shooting a few more due to seeing too many, we are still seeing anywhere from 10-15 at a time in groups What do you mean by "seeing too many"??
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We've killed 3 mature does so far on 500 acres in South Pickens county the surrounding properties and farms don't shoot many and they are starting to talk about shooting a few more due to seeing too many, we are still seeing anywhere from 10-15 at a time in groups What do you mean by "seeing too many"?? Some seeing big groups of 10-20 with 0 bucks and several doe groups of 8-10 biggest will be about 80lbs, which I don't think its too bad as long as there is plenty of food for them to eat
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We've killed 3 mature does so far on 500 acres in South Pickens county the surrounding properties and farms don't shoot many and they are starting to talk about shooting a few more due to seeing too many, we are still seeing anywhere from 10-15 at a time in groups I would let the neighbors shoot them. You start shooting up a bunch on 500 acres and those bucks and does will become nocturnal pretty quick. I like shooting does early in bow season and the last week of the season
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We've killed 3 mature does so far on 500 acres in South Pickens county the surrounding properties and farms don't shoot many and they are starting to talk about shooting a few more due to seeing too many, we are still seeing anywhere from 10-15 at a time in groups Ive worked my end off getting it to where i can see 12-15 in a field at a time. Id get pretty ill if somebody shot one of my nannies. Theres about a hundred spikes and four points running around here if a fella need some meat. Responding to your second post: the deer im feeding and watching are healthy. They are somewhat spoiled i guess. Several big ole does, big as a two year old buck.
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Seein multiple every sit...it aint an easy thing to accomplish without the right ingredients...time,money,habitat...money an time..will create habitat
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Seein multiple every sit...it aint an easy thing to accomplish without the right ingredients...time,money,habitat...money an time..will create habitat I dont see a pile of them every time, but a real high percentage. It has took alot of work and a good bit of money. I have more time to throw at it than most working people. I dont drink or smoke, i feed animals. Its not for everybody for sure, its not even possible for everyone because of the time, money, and even the equipment needed to make it happen. I dont kill alot of deer either. Me and the boy will kill a deer or two apiece and a turkey apiece. Our reward is mostly in the numbers and in the process or the journey i guess. I like watching stuff grow whether its green, furry, or feathered. Killing is only a small part of it.
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I guess some people just have the itch to shoot some! They might donate them or just wanna brag. Who knows! I figure this is the case alot of times. Its really none of my business. If they own or lease some land and they want to kill everything they see, so be it. Some folks have a big bloodlust. I understand that too.
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We try to kill 5-6 deer a year for the freezer. But I space it out a doe at the house some on public one at the lease then any bucks we kill.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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We try to kill 5-6 deer a year for the freezer. But I space it out a doe at the house some on public one at the lease then any bucks we kill. Y'all be hungry! Ain't got no grocery stores nearby?
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I guess some people just have the itch to shoot some! They might donate them or just wanna brag. Who knows! They have to feed the family!
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I like shooting deer and I like eating deer. I ain’t apologizing for chit. I exercise great restraint on the few acres here at the house. Kinda got a one doe a year rule. Skip around. Will take a doe other places I hunt. And I got friends whose property would have a real problem if they didn’t kill a trailer load every year. Maybe 2 trailer loads. And they kill the kind of bucks every year would be a lifetime buck for most of us. I see too many folks making other folks feel bad about what they shoot. It’s worse on Facebook than it is here. Some guys are tickled to take a doe and a basket rack buck every year. Let them enjoy their sport.
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We try to kill 5-6 deer a year for the freezer. But I space it out a doe at the house some on public one at the lease then any bucks we kill. Y'all be hungry! Ain't got no grocery stores nearby? My family of 4 can go through 4 deer a year easy. I usually kill 1 on public land, 1-2 on the family farm, 1 on the small lease and 1 every other year on the big lease. We don’t shoot does on the big lease.
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We try to kill 5-6 deer a year for the freezer. But I space it out a doe at the house some on public one at the lease then any bucks we kill. Y'all be hungry! Ain't got no grocery stores nearby? can't buy venison at the grocery store.
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We try to kill 5-6 deer a year for the freezer. But I space it out a doe at the house some on public one at the lease then any bucks we kill. Y'all be hungry! Ain't got no grocery stores nearby? My family of 4 can go through 4 deer a year easy. I usually kill 1 on public land, 1-2 on the family farm, 1 on the small lease and 1 every other year on the big lease. We don’t shoot does on the big lease. We are basically out from last year and bought a lot more beef then normal. 5 gets us by on cube, hamburger, stir fry and stew meat. I like one to do summer sausage jerky and specialty stuff from.
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Brock you are just a bloodthirsty braggart with your wanton doe slaying.
Admit it
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Brock you are just a bloodthirsty braggart with your wanton doe slaying.
Admit it What does that make you then Reaper?
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We like watching deer. We kill about 6-8 does/yr off 1750ac. I personally have not shot a doe off this property in 5 years. I like lots of does around when the rut starts, we usually pick up quite a few walk on bucks. Our surrounding properties are pine and cutovers, they shoot em when that starts, many ease over to our place where there’s not as much pressure and shooting action going on
Oddly, when I stopped shooting does, I started seeing and shooting more bucks. Personally For me, there has been a direct correlation. YMMV.
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The adjoining land varies terribly where I hunt. Pine hills, river bottoms, LOTS of smz’s, and clearcuts. No way to pin doe recruitment down to MY personal surroundings, other than the fact that a 3-4 yr old clear cut is a deer magnet “in general”. I love a new clearcut, they draw deer while a 20 yr old pine plantation generally is a desert in comparison. We killed 10-11 last year, I forget. I cleaned 6-7 of them and processed 3-4. I put up 3 whole deer just for jerky every year and usually kill 2-3 for other people.
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Can't raise cattle and sell only bulls. Pasture would get small quick
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Hey CNC what do you consider "a bunch of does" It just depends.....I like the way we used to do it better where does were protected and people shots spikes instead…..If you shoot a spike then you’ve killed one deer…..if you shoot a doe then you kill her and every one she was gonna have.
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Can't raise cattle and sell only bulls. Pasture would get small quick Its not an apples to apples comparison......Deer have coyotes to deal with as predators for one....and 2) social dynamics amongst doe groups is gonna dictate to some degree their spacing and distribution. You may choose not to shoot them but that doesnt mean that they'll stockpile as a result
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Farmers will kill them for you. When they shoot at night they shoot every set of eyes they see. Even big bucks. They gut shoot them so they run out of the field.
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Farmers will kill them for you. When they shoot at night they shoot every set of eyes they see. Even big bucks. They gut shoot them so they run out of the field. Do away with crop depredation permits and instead compensate the farmers for the lost $$ through the money raised by things like the DCNR’s “bait fee”……
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We were the first in the county to start shooting them. DMP over 20+ years ago. Locals went crazy. We got threats. Fellow killed 130# doe Saturday. Also 2 120# + were killed.
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Farmers will kill them for you. When they shoot at night they shoot every set of eyes they see. Even big bucks. They gut shoot them so they run out of the field. Do away with crop depredation permits and instead compensate the farmers for the lost $$ through the money raised by things like the DCNR’s “bait fee”…… Very good idea. On my folks spot that I hunt. I have a camera next to a feeder. There is a doe on camera that had triplets last year and twins this year. Why would any one shoot a producer like this ole girl?
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Hell, I would love to just see one!! My club doesn’t need to kill any, but they’re worse than children and can’t stand not to pull the trigger!! We don’t have the deer to justify killing a pile of does! I thought the doe portion of the herd was healthy Chris.
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Farmers will kill them for you. When they shoot at night they shoot every set of eyes they see. Even big bucks. They gut shoot them so they run out of the field. Do away with crop depredation permits and instead compensate the farmers for the lost $$ through the money raised by things like the DCNR’s “bait fee”…… Won’t be done. There’s been a legal precedent set years ago that farmers have the right to protect their crops. Depredation permits are just a way for WFF to try and keep track of it.
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We usually kill 15-20 does off about 2000 acres. We have a healthy population with a fairly balanced buck:doe ratio and 15 or 20 seems to keep the population steady from year to year. I would say the habitat is a little above average, and most of the surrounding properties are similar. I do think that we plant better greenfields and more acreage than most of the neighbors so that probably helps with sightings.
I will say that we used to be on a QDM program that recommended shooting anywhere from 75 to 150 does most years. We killed some good bucks during those years but it got to where we rarely saw deer. After a couple years of that we cut back to where we are now and have seen the population grow without noticing any real negative impact on the quality of bucks we harvest. 150 does on 2,000 acres that is laying em down.
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We usually kill 15-20 does off about 2000 acres. We have a healthy population with a fairly balanced buck:doe ratio and 15 or 20 seems to keep the population steady from year to year. I would say the habitat is a little above average, and most of the surrounding properties are similar. I do think that we plant better greenfields and more acreage than most of the neighbors so that probably helps with sightings.
I will say that we used to be on a QDM program that recommended shooting anywhere from 75 to 150 does most years. We killed some good bucks during those years but it got to where we rarely saw deer. After a couple years of that we cut back to where we are now and have seen the population grow without noticing any real negative impact on the quality of bucks we harvest. 150 does on 2,000 acres that is laying em down. I’m not sure we ever reached that number but I know we killed 100 a few seasons
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That’s ridiculous. Definitely not sustainable long term. Agreed. Eventually we called it quits and just used some common sense with our doe harvest while still trying to only shoot mature bucks.
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Re: For you guys shooting a bunch of does…..
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11/30/20 11:40 PM
11/30/20 11:40 PM
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We were the first in the county to start shooting them. DMP over 20+ years ago. Locals went crazy. We got threats. Fellow killed 130# doe Saturday. Also 2 120# + were killed. Lol,,, you wanna see folks cry kill bout 30 next to a club that has a membership fee of $5000 a year . We killed what ever came to the field .Next year the thinned the herd their way.
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Re: For you guys shooting a bunch of does…..
[Re: Orion34]
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12/01/20 09:04 AM
12/01/20 09:04 AM
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TC, that’s big. How big do you think they’d be if you would kill more of them. Biggest doe is 150#
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: For you guys shooting a bunch of does…..
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/01/20 01:17 PM
12/01/20 01:17 PM
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That’s ridiculous. Definitely not sustainable long term. Its really not as ridiculous as it may sound…..I’m very familiar with the area and have had other parcels that have had biologists tell them the same thing…..The caretaker for Enon told me a very similar number that they had recommended to be taken by the biologist…….And here’s the thing…..You could probably kill that many off of these properties if it weren’t for the hunting pressure it would create shutting them down eventually…..And why is the biologist telling them that? I’m guessing its so the habitat has some pressure taken off of it and so that the does will weigh 140 lbs like y’all are talking about instead of 80-100 like they do now……Meanwhile though the people who hunt these places are seeing 30, 40, 50 deer in an afternoon.....even 75 in an afternoon like doekiller mentioned... and still killing some golly whoppers here and there too like anywhere else….. This is why I think while all well intentioned……a lot of this recommendation stuff is just a matter of opinions……There really is no one “right place” to manage….Why do these folks need to blast a bunch of does?.....So that the doe weights will increase?.....What does that get them? Seeing a whole lot less deer??? Meanwhile they’re just coming up with their own number anyways that they think is about right…..”Well the biologist said 100…..but we just shoot 20 instead……or 40……or whatever…….”…….I think most people would rather see 50 deer that weighed 80-100 lbs than 5-6 that weighed 140 if they had to choose between the two………There’s no right place to manage really though….its a sliding scale and its just a matter of opinion o….Some of the most coveted places to hunt though are where hunters are seeing 40-50+ in a sit……That is what brings some of the highest dollar lease prices….People don’t pay high lease prices for big does……I think we over prescribe a bunch of doe killing that isn’t necessary…….
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Re: For you guys shooting a bunch of does…..
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/01/20 03:57 PM
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We regularly kill 130-145 lb does and the biggest is 163. That's live weight. Right ?
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Re: For you guys shooting a bunch of does…..
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12/01/20 04:44 PM
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We regularly kill 130-145 lb does and the biggest is 163. That's live weight. Right ? Quite sure it is live. We been managing or place for over 20 years and we get both live and dressed. Have the paperwork on every deer we've kill for the entire period.
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: For you guys shooting a bunch of does…..
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12/01/20 08:42 PM
12/01/20 08:42 PM
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Frankie
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We regularly kill 130-145 lb does and the biggest is 163. That's live weight. Right ? Quite sure it is live. We been managing or place for over 20 years and we get both live and dressed. Have the paperwork on every deer we've kill for the entire period. OK , just a average healthy grown doe
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