|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
103 registered members (hunterturf, zgobbler5, HSV. HUNTER, Bustinbeards, Spec, FX4, USeeMSpurs, alhawk, BPI, Fishduck, Mbrock, AJones, slanddeerhunter, donia, lectrode, CrimsonWSM, Jweeks, CeeHawk37, StateLine, MC21, abolt300, Jotjackson, Turkeyneck78, BCLC, 44MAG, Forrestgump1, HHSyelper, auman, CKyleC, hosscat, IDOT, thayerp81, Backwater, hoggin, Rolloverdave, cbs, Buck1976, Goatkiller, Richard Cranium, deadeye48, CNC, 7x57_Mauser, Squadron77, Turkey_neck, curt99rsv, courseup, Sgiles, AustinC, AU338MAG, Bigem1958, slippinlipjr, mzzy, dirkdaddy, coldtrail, johnmcgowan, Fattyfireplug, Dean, crenshawco, Kang, Skillet, Remington270, Squeaky, HDS64, eclipse829, AU7MM08, Moss, XVIII, Whild_Bill, Scout308, klay, GomerPyle, CarbonClimber1, Woodsy, laidback, Big Rack, Eutaw, BrentsFX4, Reptar, brett.smith, G/H, Rainbowstew, Tree Dweller, jawbone, Johnal3, square, goodman_hunter, TGreen, weatherby, joe sixpack, RCHRR, Jdkprp70, joe_g, Sandmtnslayer, Sasquatch Lives, 9 invisible),
1,295
guests, and 0
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Traditional sights or red dot scope?
#3238685
10/09/20 11:47 PM
10/09/20 11:47 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,329 Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85
OP
10 point
|
OP
10 point
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
|
Just received my new SA Saint Victor AR Pistol from Palmetto State Armory. Should I go with traditional flip up sights or invest in a red dot sight. I bought it from defense at the house not hunting. What say Aldeer? Pros & Cons of either? Thanks.
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#3238734
10/10/20 06:50 AM
10/10/20 06:50 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 25,954 Prattville, Alabama
Skullworks
Freak of Nature
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 25,954
Prattville, Alabama
|
1-4 or 1-6 scope with illuminated reticle set up to co-witness with your sights.
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#3238861
10/10/20 10:01 AM
10/10/20 10:01 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,777 Marshall County
ALMODUX
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,777
Marshall County
|
If you’re using lights indoors, good RD sights can be the way to go. Sometimes bounce back, reflection, bloom....whatever, from high output lights can give trouble with open sights and LPVs. RDs overcome this better.....you can still impose a dot on target, even when you can’t see through it. Some LPVs have reticles that are bright enough, as well. If not adding a lot of light, anything will work, and you’ll want a dimmer reticle anyway. The other option is to use what you want for a sight for all conditions, and just use a laser/light combo that you clip on for night/indoor use. That doesn’t require any proper mount at all, to get rounds on target at short range. There’s arguments for/against it all....but whatever works for you, is best for YOU.
Last edited by ALMODUX; 10/10/20 10:02 AM.
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: joshm28]
#3240019
10/11/20 09:05 PM
10/11/20 09:05 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 10,332 coffee county
goodman_hunter
Booner
|
Booner
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 10,332
coffee county
|
Put a red dot that co witness with irons. Best of both worlds That would be my suggestion. But if you're gonna pick between the 2, the red dot is superior. The irons cover up to much of the target in my opinion. The sig romeo 5 is nice, the spark is alright as well. You don't wanna use a reflex red dot like the fast fire because it sits to low on the gun.
For without victory, there is no survival
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#3240053
10/11/20 10:03 PM
10/11/20 10:03 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,533 Al
Broadhead26
8 point
|
8 point
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,533
Al
|
Aimpoint micro and you won't ever have to worry about it not coming on when you need it. X2 You don’t want to be trying to cut it on last minute if you need it. Argument against the red dot though is that if your sole intent for the rifle is home defense, you won’t be aiming down the sight anyways if you need to use it. For the most part, you’re just going to point and shoot at such close range. P.s. start practicing sign language now, because you’ll never hear anything again after popping off a few 5.56 rounds indoors. Especially from a shorty barrel.
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: ALMODUX]
#3240871
10/13/20 08:43 AM
10/13/20 08:43 AM
|
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
Leupold Pro Staff
|
Leupold Pro Staff
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670
NW Alabama
|
LOL....Aimpoints aren’t immune from failure, either. Some others are at least as reliable, durable, etc....if not more so. So what red dot is more reliable?
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: Big Bore]
#3241215
10/13/20 07:08 PM
10/13/20 07:08 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,329 Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85
OP
10 point
|
OP
10 point
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
|
After much reading and reviewing I decided on a Sig Romeo5. I'll probably add flip-up sights later. Thanks for all of y'alls input. It was greatly appreciated.
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: Broadhead26]
#3241381
10/13/20 09:41 PM
10/13/20 09:41 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL
joshm28
14 point
|
14 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,375
Jasper, AL
|
Aimpoint micro and you won't ever have to worry about it not coming on when you need it. X2 You don’t want to be trying to cut it on last minute if you need it. Argument against the red dot though is that if your sole intent for the rifle is home defense, you won’t be aiming down the sight anyways if you need to use it. For the most part, you’re just going to point and shoot at such close range. P.s. start practicing sign language now, because you’ll never hear anything again after popping off a few 5.56 rounds indoors. Especially from a shorty barrel. That goes for pretty much any gun in confined space and the exact reason I’m shooting suppressed .300blk with an 8” barrel.
Last edited by joshm28; 10/13/20 09:41 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: joshm28]
#3241774
10/14/20 03:45 PM
10/14/20 03:45 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,533 Al
Broadhead26
8 point
|
8 point
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,533
Al
|
Aimpoint micro and you won't ever have to worry about it not coming on when you need it. X2 You don’t want to be trying to cut it on last minute if you need it. Argument against the red dot though is that if your sole intent for the rifle is home defense, you won’t be aiming down the sight anyways if you need to use it. For the most part, you’re just going to point and shoot at such close range. P.s. start practicing sign language now, because you’ll never hear anything again after popping off a few 5.56 rounds indoors. Especially from a shorty barrel. That goes for pretty much any gun in confined space and the exact reason I’m shooting suppressed .300blk with an 8” barrel. I have that exact same setup and it’ll still make my ears ring after a few shots outdoors. Not nearly as bad, but no way in hell I’d want to be anywhere near one of those going off indoors.
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: Skullworks]
#3242052
10/14/20 08:46 PM
10/14/20 08:46 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 12,918 Old Florida
Geno
Booner
|
Booner
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 12,918
Old Florida
|
1-4 or 1-6 scope with illuminated reticle set up to co-witness with your sights. This ^^ Stage electronic muffs with EVERY weapon.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#3242362
10/15/20 10:30 AM
10/15/20 10:30 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 10,332 coffee county
goodman_hunter
Booner
|
Booner
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 10,332
coffee county
|
The only disadvantage to a red dot optic, is fogging up. That can be remedied with an antifogging spray, but thought I'd just throw that out there.
For without victory, there is no survival
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#3242862
10/16/20 06:56 AM
10/16/20 06:56 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 13,905 AL
hunterbuck
Booner
|
Booner
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 13,905
AL
|
For home defense....red dot all the way.
I would imagine that 90%+ of home defense applications would be in the dark...thereby rendering traditional open sights/scopes useless anyway.
In your home, in the dark, you have the advantage. You know your home's layout...intruders don't, unless it's someone you know. You still have the advantage in that case, though.
The vast majority of our special forces use either Aimpoint or EOTech (with a few going for Trijicon) for clearing buildings...essentially home defense style work. I trust what they use.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
|
|
|
Re: Traditional sights or red dot scope?
[Re: BamaGrad85]
#3243738
10/17/20 05:37 PM
10/17/20 05:37 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,777 Marshall County
ALMODUX
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,777
Marshall County
|
In the pitch dark, a red dot is as worthless as anything else when you can’t see your target. If you add some light, to see your target, then most other stuff works, also. “The vast majority of our special forces“ do NOT use either Aimpoints or EoTechs. There are more Trijicons (of various types...dot, prism. LPV) on our books (last I saw), some Aimpoints, some Elcans, and some leftover EoTechs. It doesn’t really work like that, anyway....most any individual has 2-3 different options assigned/available, for the use at hand. They pick what fits that niche. Red dots can work great, but they’re not necessarily always inherently ‘better’, than other stuff.....other stuff can have illuminated aiming points AND stuff red dots don’t.
Last edited by ALMODUX; 10/17/20 05:40 PM.
|
|
|
|