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Re: Leasing land [Re: Orion34] #3197865
08/22/20 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Orion34
All this reminds me of why I’m in a club of one.

Amen on that

Re: Leasing land [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #3197924
08/22/20 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
The ones I was in there was always some guy who would bring along his 20 and 30 something year old sons as guests. The rules said kids living at home were considered guests. One guy had three sons in their 20's and he would bring them all so they would be four guys hunting for the price of one. Total bs. Guess if the loser son was living in his basement he was a legal guest.


Well were they breaking the rules? If not, you should have minded your own business lol. But if they were, then the trouble went deeper than just the member. And hell i didn't leave my parents home till I was 20, and i was far from a loser lol 😂


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Re: Leasing land [Re: mauvilla] #3224248
09/20/20 09:10 PM
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Some silly responses.
Circumstances cause a change in location and new
stupid rules make a person want to change clubs.
I still have rights in Chambers, but would love to
find something around Lake Martin.
Any hope in that?


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Re: Leasing land [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #3224263
09/20/20 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
The ones I was in there was always some guy who would bring along his 20 and 30 something year old sons as guests. The rules said kids living at home were considered guests. One guy had three sons in their 20's and he would bring them all so they would be four guys hunting for the price of one. Total bs. Guess if the loser son was living in his basement he was a legal guest.



Our rules are everybody 16 and up have to pay. If they can drive themselves and have to buy a license to hunt then they are considered a full member. Has worked great for us, but the "dues" are really cheap so nobody has ever complained. The bigger issue is youth hunting. We have about 8 kids entering pre-teen status that are going to put down some nice deer over the next 4-6 years. I'm just waiting for that to hurt some feelings. My idea is I'll probably make about 2000 acres off limits to youth and bow hunting prior to gun season to appease a few guys.

Re: Leasing land [Re: Semo] #3224434
09/21/20 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Semo
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
The ones I was in there was always some guy who would bring along his 20 and 30 something year old sons as guests. The rules said kids living at home were considered guests. One guy had three sons in their 20's and he would bring them all so they would be four guys hunting for the price of one. Total bs. Guess if the loser son was living in his basement he was a legal guest.



Our rules are everybody 16 and up have to pay. If they can drive themselves and have to buy a license to hunt then they are considered a full member. Has worked great for us, but the "dues" are really cheap so nobody has ever complained. The bigger issue is youth hunting. We have about 8 kids entering pre-teen status that are going to put down some nice deer over the next 4-6 years. I'm just waiting for that to hurt some feelings. My idea is I'll probably make about 2000 acres off limits to youth and bow hunting prior to gun season to appease a few guys.

Ours is all full time students ( college and high school) living at home are considered guests of the member and they are welcome at all times. However, they can not bring any guests. Also once they start a full time job, they become a full paying member. It has worked for us.

Re: Leasing land [Re: hamma] #3230797
09/29/20 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hamma
Originally Posted by Orion34
All this reminds me of why I’m in a club of one.

Amen on that


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Re: Leasing land [Re: wk2hnt] #3230997
09/29/20 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wk2hnt
I’ve always thought more good hunting clubs and leases have been ruined by sons and guests than any other drama.


Meh.


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Re: Leasing land [Re: mauvilla] #3231891
09/30/20 04:40 PM
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I think our rule is two guest days allowed each year before rut and $30 fee. My 22 yr old will get to use those two and public land otherwise


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Re: Leasing land [Re: mauvilla] #3232868
10/02/20 07:18 AM
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People might not like it but if you are against kids coming thats just crazy to me. Guest ..... that’s always a iffy area I know some places are none after jan 1 and of course other options . Some people get so butt hurt over a deer being killed a guest the panties are in such a wad they can’t even function. Prime example , my dad and me were in a club for around 15 years. I took a guest with me during the week which was totally 1000% in the rules. My buddy liked a super
Nice 9 point and one of The members kids Was there which I stopped and picked up and took with us . After my buddy shot the deer the kid said “ oh heck that’s mr..... deer he is going to be pissed he killed it” , I was like wtf his deer? Well needless to say he flew off the handle about it and need less to say my dad and me said F... off and never came back. Sucks the fact we had considered these folks friends for a long time . I guess that’s a case of guest “ ruining clubs” but I would much rather have my good buddy than a deer or a bunch of grown ass men acting like school age cheer leaders in high school getting upset cause their boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend and got her pregnant.

Re: Leasing land [Re: mauvilla] #3232890
10/02/20 07:47 AM
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No problem with guests killing deer but guests and the number of times they can come definitely has to be carefully regulated, same with grown children. You can turn a high dollar, high acreage/member, well managed club Into a gar hole if you don’t. Example: 10 paying members have 3,000 acres they manage intensively and pay to do it. If each of those members can bring unlimited guests and family members, and each member brings their wife and 2-3 kids and a guest, your 10 member, low pressure club just became a 60 member high pressure club. Gotta have some rules and the rules should always be adjusted to whatever the paying member’s mgmt goals are.

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Re: Leasing land [Re: mauvilla] #3232977
10/02/20 09:37 AM
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I agree guest have to be regulated , but if you have it where guests are allowed you can’t get bent out of shape when they kill one. I also agree you can’t take 2-3 kids and the wife and shoot the woods up. Just have to find a happy medium with it.

Re: Leasing land [Re: mauvilla] #3233157
10/02/20 04:08 PM
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How about you set a # of deer tags per member? 2 bucks and 1 doe per membership or something like that. If your guest shoots one, it counts as one of yours since you're the member. Seems like the fairest way to do it


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Re: Leasing land [Re: Phil_Army] #3233166
10/02/20 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil_Army
How about you set a # of deer tags per member? 2 bucks and 1 doe per membership or something like that. If your guest shoots one, it counts as one of yours since you're the member. Seems like the fairest way to do it


Yup an alotment sytle. Use them as you see fit but that's your alotment. If you wanted you could even make it tied to a date IE no does after certain unless it's a childs first deer or something.

Re: Leasing land [Re: AU7MM08] #3233253
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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
Originally Posted by Phil_Army
How about you set a # of deer tags per member? 2 bucks and 1 doe per membership or something like that. If your guest shoots one, it counts as one of yours since you're the member. Seems like the fairest way to do it


Yup an alotment sytle. Use them as you see fit but that's your alotment. If you wanted you could even make it tied to a date IE no does after certain unless it's a childs first deer or something.

That’s what we have. Rules is 4.5year old or older on bucks. Each member is allowed 3 bucks and 4 does per membership. 6 guest days and no guest during high water or after dec 31st. Kids that are in school are covered under membership

Re: Leasing land [Re: mauvilla] #3233320
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Ever club I have been in has "guest" kids who evidently are 21 to 30 years old still living with their parents. total bs.

Re: Leasing land [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #3233814
10/03/20 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Ever club I have been in has "guest" kids who evidently are 21 to 30 years old still living with their parents. total bs.


So would it be better if they were friends in there 50s & 60s then?


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Re: Leasing land [Re: James] #3233888
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Ever club I have been in has "guest" kids who evidently are 21 to 30 years old still living with their parents. total bs.


So would it be better if they were friends in there 50s & 60s then?

They will probably still be living in dad's hours when they are 50.

Re: Leasing land [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #3233970
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Ever club I have been in has "guest" kids who evidently are 21 to 30 years old still living with their parents. total bs.


So would it be better if they were friends in there 50s & 60s then?

They will probably still be living in dad's hours when they are 50.

Might need to find new friends then

Re: Leasing land [Re: James] #3233995
10/04/20 05:03 AM
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Guest policies are the root of a lot of club problems.

Years ago a guest shot a 6-7 yr old monarch in our SC club. 18 points.
Then killed a lessor Buck the next day. No rules were broken.
Everybody was pissed though.

To this Guy's credit, he joined up the next year.
Killed nothing that year. We all felt slightly better.

Re: Leasing land [Re: mauvilla] #3234829
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Places in Texas have a number of guns per lease not members. If you and your wife hunt you pay for 2 guns. I know it's not popular here and some kids are great but some I could do without. Problem with guests that don't have much hunting experience is they expect to kill something on their one or 2 day hunt and lots of times pull the trigger to soon.


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