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State pier #3221183
09/16/20 08:32 PM
09/16/20 08:32 PM
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oldandwise Offline OP
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The state pier at gs state park is damaged,. How bad . Caught t,1king and loads of Spanish off that pier

Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3221318
09/16/20 10:25 PM
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Based on the pic I saw the Middle 40% of it is completely gone. It’ll be closed for another year at least based on past construction performance.

Last edited by abolt300; 09/16/20 10:25 PM.
Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3221385
09/17/20 05:36 AM
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State always get the lowest bidder.

Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3221480
09/17/20 08:30 AM
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Clanton, AL
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Originally Posted by oldandwise
State always get the lowest bidder.

No


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Re: State pier [Re: Out back] #3221518
09/17/20 09:11 AM
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34°25'49.80"N 86°55'46.99"...
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by oldandwise
State always get the lowest bidder.

No

State always pads the pockets of the biggest buddies!


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Re: State pier [Re: gman] #3221615
09/17/20 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gman
Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by oldandwise
State always get the lowest bidder.

No

State always pads the pockets of the biggest buddies!

Exactly


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Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3221781
09/17/20 02:26 PM
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aw you mad ^^^^^^^^

Re: State pier [Re: abolt300] #3222053
09/17/20 07:41 PM
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Saraland, Alabama
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Based on the pic I saw the Middle 40% of it is completely gone. It’ll be closed for another year at least based on past construction performance.

Ivan took it out in 04 and it didn't reopen until 09. No way it will reopen in a year. It will probably have to be completely demo'd and rebuilt... if it took that much of the pier completely out, no telling how much of the structure has damage that wasn't wiped out.

Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3222081
09/17/20 08:18 PM
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I hope they knew what they were doing with insurance coverage. Otherwise it’s going to be a massive hit to us tax payers

Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3222246
09/18/20 03:38 AM
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1dollar will be added to ur fishing license to pay for the pier. Chuck said.so

Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3226754
09/24/20 10:17 AM
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Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3226867
09/24/20 12:36 PM
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Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3226929
09/24/20 02:09 PM
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Saraland, Alabama
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Originally Posted by oldandwise


That's not rebuilding...that's just putting the blowout panels back in place. My $$$ is still on the pier having to be torn down. If the storm completely demolished that much of the pier, no telling what damage they'll find when divers inspect the octi and the remaining sections north of the missing section. Hoping the damage was isolated to that one section, but I honestly think it will wind up being completely demo'd

Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3227052
09/24/20 04:34 PM
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Question... if oil rigs can be built to withstand hurricanes year after years the why would you go cheap on a gulf pier?

Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3227110
09/24/20 06:28 PM
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It will be 4- 6 months before engineering will have the newest bid ready no doubt Then another delay to let the bids...then to award the bid...in a market where there will be way more money in hurricane work than a state pier. Then the new pilings will have to be fabbed and who knows how much more damage they might find. Hopefully they will let fisherman use what there is of the pier that is safe until...
Didn't here this just had about 25 years working in the middle of the process...My guess 2022. hope I'm wrong! and we can celebrate!

Re: State pier [Re: hammerhead] #3227265
09/24/20 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hammerhead
Originally Posted by oldandwise


That's not rebuilding...that's just putting the blowout panels back in place. My $$$ is still on the pier having to be torn down. If the storm completely demolished that much of the pier, no telling what damage they'll find when divers inspect the octi and the remaining sections north of the missing section. Hoping the damage was isolated to that one section, but I honestly think it will wind up being completely demo'd


Yep.


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Everyone. All of them...

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Re: State pier [Re: RCHRR] #3227441
09/24/20 10:56 PM
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Saraland, Alabama
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Originally Posted by RCHRR
Question... if oil rigs can be built to withstand hurricanes year after years the why would you go cheap on a gulf pier?


Cheap? When the pier was rebuilt after Ivan destroyed it in 2004 (reopened in 2009), the price tag was almost $15 MILLION. The renovations that were just completed hit the $2.4 MILLION mark. I don't know what your idea of cheap is, but over $17 MILLION is far from cheap.

These pics were taken the afternoon of Sept 14...over 24 hrs before landfall. Waves were already reaching the bottom of the pier deck. I can only imagine how high the waves were the closer the storm got. The power of water is something else
The last pic was the morning of the 15th

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Re: State pier [Re: oldandwise] #3228193
09/26/20 01:18 AM
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I didn’t mean cheap cost wise.

Last edited by RCHRR; 09/26/20 01:19 AM.

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