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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: mike35549] #3177743
07/27/20 09:05 PM
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Anything over 2 tons per application is wasting lime.


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: 257wbymag] #3177799
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Not throw and mow. I do no till tho with a drill. That’s placing seed in the soil. In moisture


For many, many food plotters.....I'd say the vast majority.....a drill will never be a feasible option no matter how you "sell it"....I'm one of the people and it's the very reason I started experimenting with different techniques....How can I achieve the same.....or close to the same results and benefits of no-till without having to use a drill. The process may not be as efficient but the benefits are just the same....


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: mike35549] #3177834
07/27/20 10:18 PM
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Hunt in South AL, live in FL
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Ours called for different rates. We took the highest, rounded up and then looked at what made sense to order for the coop to spread. We are pleased with the results and being as though it was our first time taking care of this property we wanted to go overboard not under.

Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: hallb] #3177938
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Originally Posted by hallb
Ours called for different rates. We took the highest, rounded up and then looked at what made sense to order for the coop to spread. We are pleased with the results and being as though it was our first time taking care of this property we wanted to go overboard not under.


Did you see a difference in the growth or just overall quality of your plots.


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: mike35549] #3178078
07/28/20 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mike35549
Originally Posted by hallb
Ours called for different rates. We took the highest, rounded up and then looked at what made sense to order for the coop to spread. We are pleased with the results and being as though it was our first time taking care of this property we wanted to go overboard not under.


Did you see a difference in the growth or just overall quality of your plots.


We didn't plant all of the plots this summer and only the 2nd year to own the property, so really won't tell until planting this fall. But I'm mostly talking about how quickly it modified our soil PH to where it needed to be...but also from the plots we did plant this spring, they appear to have gotten all of the potential available from the fertilizer - maybe we could have done that with 2 tons per acre, but no way to know at this point. At $60 a ton spread by the coop, we don't regret it and wanted to err on the side of over liming instead of under liming. Unfortunately the deer slaughtered our WMS Pea patch plots we did plant, so not much left at this point. Our corn on the other hand is doing better than I could have ever imagined.

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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: mike35549] #3178370
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Resilience to stress is one of the big attributes to having your pH and nutrients balanced.....Also y'all keep in mind that this is a balancing act with soil nutrie ts. It's not always a situation of more is better. Your soil had a holding capacity.....it can only hold so much. The goal is to have the proper balance of each nutrient within that capacity


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: 257wbymag] #3180083
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
It’s best to always refer to your needs in units instead of lbs

Yep. But what they are seeing is like on waters sample it refers to units as lbs/ac of nitrogen. Then folks think it means pounds of actual product. Gets confusing when trying to explain.


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: mike35549] #3180089
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Yes it does.


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: mike35549] #3181943
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Have to be careful, high ph is worse than low ph. Harder to lower ph than to raise it. I like keeping in the lower to mid 6's. Soil type is going to dictate how often you'll need to lime. I have soil type 3 which is Clay's with high organic matter. If I put out lime on the same plot every year, it would get too high. I do it every few years after a test.

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Got the rest of my lime spread today in total about 15 tons with a truck and 62 bags of pellitized where a truck couldn’t get to. Wish I could have got a truck to all of them. Faster easier and cheaper. Hopefully will be able to see a difference if not this year by next year. With the PH as low as it was it will have to help some.


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: 257wbymag] #3220997
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I try to put a ton a year. It’s just sound maintenance on no till ground



Got a new lease this year in Safford. Very hard Prairie dirt. Will send off soil samples first of next week I hope. How hard is ph to maintain on that kind of dirt? Easier or harder than sand? It’s got some lime outcropping a that are pure white chalk looking and most of it is a nice brown color.

Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: mike35549] #3221059
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I’m betting that safford land will be naturally higher ph. Be interested to see


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: mike35549] #3221087
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Seen some large deer come out of safford over the years - good luck


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Re: Soil sample results ? [Re: Robert D.] #3222592
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Originally Posted by Robert D.
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I try to put a ton a year. It’s just sound maintenance on no till ground



Got a new lease this year in Safford. Very hard Prairie dirt. Will send off soil samples first of next week I hope. How hard is ph to maintain on that kind of dirt? Easier or harder than sand? It’s got some lime outcropping a that are pure white chalk looking and most of it is a nice brown color.



If it's sure enough prairie gumbo, it may never need lime. That chalky stuff might have ph in the 8's. Better put some knobby tires on your vehicles, it's like grease when it gets wet

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