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Smallmouth trip #3218592
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Well it is getting close to October and my semi annual Smallie trip. Ole Nick is not going to be able to go with me this year. He just started a new job and can't get the time off.

Taking a ole buddy that has never been Smallie fishing before.

We will be there from Oct 6-9. I am bringing my fish cooker for an evening fish fry. Any of you local guys want to meet up for some fish, give me a call.


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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: ElkHunter] #3218602
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Cook all them fish you want big boy. You think Covid 19 was bad? Just wait till you eat some of those toxic waste dump fish out of the river.😳
I wouldn’t eat a fish out of that river if you paid me.🤮

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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: ElkHunter] #3219233
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What river are we talking about here? I got enough wrong with me that eating a polluted fish ain't gonna matter. smile

I have never caught a smallmouth and it's one thing I wanna do before I pass on. Where can I take my little 16' aluminum and have a reasonable chance of not destroying the lower unit, and still catch some fish? I'd like a natural river instead of a lake. I looked at several in TN on the satellite map but they all looked to low to do anything but float. Is there one where I can launch the boat and go upstream?


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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #3219851
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


What river are we talking about here? I got enough wrong with me that eating a polluted fish ain't gonna matter. smile

I have never caught a smallmouth and it's one thing I wanna do before I pass on. Where can I take my little 16' aluminum and have a reasonable chance of not destroying the lower unit, and still catch some fish? I'd like a natural river instead of a lake. I looked at several in TN on the satellite map but they all looked to low to do anything but float. Is there one where I can launch the boat and go upstream?


I think most of the rivers, at least in Middle TN, are better suited for kayaks or canoes. There might possibly be some areas of the Duck River you could fish with a outboard and jon boat, but not sure. I do have an idea if you want to catch some smallmouth in a "river-like" setting from your aluminum boat. You could come to Wilson Lake in northwest AL, put in at Safety Harbor below Wheeler Dam and drive across the lake and go up in Bluewater Creek. Shoals Creek is also nearby. Both of these creeks feed in from the north side of Wilson Lake, are navigable for a distance by motor boat, and contain good populations of smallmouth. You would also be near Pickwick Lake, which has good smallmouth fishing and so much current that it is very much like fishing a river.


He never promised that the cross would not get heavy & the hill would not be hard to climb.
Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: ElkHunter] #3219951
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As far as I'm aware, smallmouths only thrive in clean water conditions.


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Originally Posted by MarksOutdoors
As far as I'm aware, smallmouths only thrive in clean water conditions.
Not sure i’d call decatur “clean water conditions” crazy
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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: MarksOutdoors] #3220041
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Originally Posted by MarksOutdoors
As far as I'm aware, smallmouths only thrive in clean water conditions.


You’d be surprised.

Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: ElkHunter] #3220056
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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: Cibola] #3220157
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Originally Posted by Cibola
Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


What river are we talking about here? I got enough wrong with me that eating a polluted fish ain't gonna matter. smile

I have never caught a smallmouth and it's one thing I wanna do before I pass on. Where can I take my little 16' aluminum and have a reasonable chance of not destroying the lower unit, and still catch some fish? I'd like a natural river instead of a lake. I looked at several in TN on the satellite map but they all looked to low to do anything but float. Is there one where I can launch the boat and go upstream?


I think most of the rivers, at least in Middle TN, are better suited for kayaks or canoes. There might possibly be some areas of the Duck River you could fish with a outboard and jon boat, but not sure. I do have an idea if you want to catch some smallmouth in a "river-like" setting from your aluminum boat. You could come to Wilson Lake in northwest AL, put in at Safety Harbor below Wheeler Dam and drive across the lake and go up in Bluewater Creek. Shoals Creek is also nearby. Both of these creeks feed in from the north side of Wilson Lake, are navigable for a distance by motor boat, and contain good populations of smallmouth. You would also be near Pickwick Lake, which has good smallmouth fishing and so much current that it is very much like fishing a river.



Thanks for all that info. I crossed the Duck river several times on turkey hunting trips, and it looked navigable. I had also studied those creeks on Wilson and thought that at least my AL fishing license would be good there. That would probably be smarter than going to TN. Most everything I've read about smallmouth fishing in AL talked about either catching them at night, or on live bait, and I don't like either idea. Fishing in those creeks sounds more my style.


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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: ElkHunter] #3220266
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We will be fishing on Wilson and Pickwick. Mainly Pickwick.


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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: ElkHunter] #3220769
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Let us know how you do Barry. Ive been waning to do a 2 day Wilson and Pickwick trip myself.

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So how crowded would it be on Wilson on a weekday in October? For those who have fished both, would it likely be more or less than Lay Lake? I guess the uncertain weather scared everyone else off, but I fished Paint creek yesterday on the lower end of Lay and had it entirely to myself. I have never seen that before in over 40 years of fishing it.


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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: ElkHunter] #3221002
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I don't expect it to be crowded at all.


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Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: ElkHunter] #3221178
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It’s starting to get crowded in fishing season around the dams. Oct15- February

Re: Smallmouth trip [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #3221484
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


So how crowded would it be on Wilson on a weekday in October? For those who have fished both, would it likely be more or less than Lay Lake? I guess the uncertain weather scared everyone else off, but I fished Paint creek yesterday on the lower end of Lay and had it entirely to myself. I have never seen that before in over 40 years of fishing it.


It shouldn't be very crowded at all on a weekday. The pleasure boating crowd starts thinning out after Labor Day. Weekdays in October should be just fishermen, and most of those will be concentrated in the tailrace of the dam. By the way, October is prime time to drift live shad in the tailrace for a chance at a trophy sized smallmouth.


He never promised that the cross would not get heavy & the hill would not be hard to climb.
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Thanks for all the info, and Elkhunter, I didn't mean to take over your thread. Good luck on your trip. We have decided to go to Wilson in October and fish an afternoon and the next morning. We both just wanna catch one smallmouth, so maybe that will be enough time to land one.


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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


Thanks for all the info, and Elkhunter, I didn't mean to take over your thread. Good luck on your trip. We have decided to go to Wilson in October and fish an afternoon and the next morning. We both just wanna catch one smallmouth, so maybe that will be enough time to land one.


Wilson in October:
1. Catch some shad OR buy some;
2. Launch below Wheeler Dam;
3. Launch boat and motor up to dam;
4. Fish with spinning rod with 6lb. line, #6 hook, small split shot about 1’ above hook;
5. Hook shad through lips, drop straight down over the side of the boat about 7’ deep and drift down about 400 yards;
6. Wash, rinse and repeat.
You’ll catch plenty of smallmouth.

If you have any questions, just watch the other boats (locals) and mimic what they are doing. There will be a few there doing just this.

Lonster

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FYI

If they’re running water, and you need that to catch fish, you’ll catch a fish on every drift. Usually only one because by the time you get in in the boat it’s time to motor back up and do it again. You’ll catch lots of drum and catfish too.

It’s fun but I don’t do it too often because it takes me an hour afterwards at the car wash to get all of the shad scales out of my boat, looks like stripper glitter from front to back!

Lonster

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