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Re: Powder Measure Question [Re: Coosa1] #3189771
08/12/20 02:32 PM
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Blackhorn is good stuff, I shoot 100grns by volume with a barnes 290 tmz out of a T/C encore 1moa or less. Recoil is about like a heavy load out of 20 ga to me.

Re: Powder Measure Question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3191842
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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Always measure by volume for simple hunting loads. And, loose powder has always given me lots better accuracy than any pellets that I've tried and I've tried dang near all of them.


Exactly
Loose powder allows you to better tune a load than pellets ever will


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Re: Powder Measure Question [Re: Coosa1] #3193301
08/17/20 10:53 AM
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I always felt like measuring with volume (eye-balling a line in a volume container) was inconsistent. I weight every charge within 1/10 of a grain, just like handloading rifle rounds. This method has been consistent for me, and I make 5-10 powder charges at once when I'm measuring powder.

Surely measuring weight is better than getting it "close to a line" in a volume tube.

Side note--BH is easy to clean, and accuracy is better out to 200 with my ML compared with other ML powder. Pellets (like 777) would be easier to use, but it's harder to clean the barrel&plug.

From memory, I think I shoot 68.3 grains by weight BH under 250gr ShockWave. Its the most accurate combination I could find. Not the fastest, but very consistent in my ML.

With BH, make sure you use shotgun primers, not ordinary ML primers.

Re: Powder Measure Question [Re: Coosa1] #3193363
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I very seriously doubt you'll see any difference in accuracy and very little in velocity in 1 full grain increments until you get to around 5 full grains with any black powder substitute. Some loose powders might at 3 grains but it will be minimal. 1/10 grain in black powder substitutes just don't make sense. Unless you're shooting precision LONG barreled muzzleloaders, like 40 to 60 inch barrels in competition, you're wasting time as far as practicality goes. But, it can be fun. Enjoy


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Re: Powder Measure Question [Re: Coosa1] #3194523
08/18/20 07:54 PM
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The Apex i just sold would shoot ragged one hole groups with 110 grains volume BH209 and 250 grain FTX in a crush rib sabot. I used the correct breech plug and CCI 209M primers, never had a mis fire.

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