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I hit the trifecta #3179851
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Of noxious weeds. Have been fighting Sicklepod and Nut Grass the last couple of years. Tuesday morning I went into a thin area of my corn/bean field to spray all the weeds growing cause it did not canopy. Found a small patch of round up resistant Pigweed ie Palmers Amaranth ie the frickin Devil. I got about 1/2 of it pulled and on burn pile up rest is supposed to get done today cause I had to come home

Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3179959
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The soil conditions that have been created is your culprit..... likely the absence of soil organic matter and soil microbes. Probably heavily dominated by bacteria.


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3180060
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Soil conditions don’t create weeds you dummy. Palmer moves in from an animal or piece of equipment or in seed bags. You make some stupid comments but that’s the dumbest one yet I’ve seen you make.


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3180097
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Hell, I would sale the place.


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3180107
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What’s the remedy for sickle pod?


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: 257wbymag] #3180110
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Soil conditions don’t create weeds you dummy. Palmer moves in from an animal or piece of equipment or in seed bags. You make some stupid comments but that’s the dumbest one yet I’ve seen you make.


Soil conditions absolutely do dictate which "weeds" or native vegetation you see occurring in most situations. These conditions are typically a result of management practices.


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3180120
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You’re so full of schit. We have perfect fertility soil up here and we have all the weeds bradb has. It’s all about cultural control. Not soil dip wad


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: sanderson] #3180121
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Originally Posted by sanderson
What’s the remedy for sickle pod?


Phenoxy or gly. And that’s about it. Phenoxy is 24d or dicamba.


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: 257wbymag] #3180156
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
You’re so full of schit. We have perfect fertility soil up here and we have all the weeds bradb has. It’s all about cultural control. Not soil dip wad

Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Soil conditions don’t create weeds you dummy. Palmer moves in from an animal or piece of equipment or in seed bags. You make some stupid comments but that’s the dumbest one yet I’ve seen you make.



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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3180171
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Well here’s a Karen. Awwwww


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: 257wbymag] #3180173
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Well here’s a Karen. Awwwww



Not really, I think CNC is a good guy and you’re unnecessarily a dick to him for no valid reason. But that’s my 2cents.

Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3180175
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This group in general might not be the best at following rules.

Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3180179
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Broadhead, there are different ways to be a dick. Maybe you just pick up on 257s way a little easier. Sometimes the dickness is a little more subtle. But what do I know

Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: jwalker77] #3180195
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Broadhead, there are different ways to be a dick. Maybe you just pick up on 257s way a little easier. Sometimes the dickness is a little more subtle. But what do I know


I got you, my initial post was more in jest, but he had to pull the Karen card.

Speaking of, I demand to speak to ze manager!

Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: BradB] #3180197
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Each plant has its own preferences to the specific growing conditions that it thrives in. Variables such as compaction, poor soil structure, poor aeration, low pH, low soil carbon, absence or dominance of certain soil microbes, etc, etc…..these are all soil conditions that set the stage for some plants to thrive and others to remain virtually non-existent.

I use to have several good size patches of sicklepod but you would be hard pressed to find a single plant now. I believe it started disappearing when fungi returned to my field and the soil had a better balance of bacteria to fungi. Crabgrass was another plant that nearly dominated the whole field in the first few years when there was no soil organic matter and no soil structure. There’s only a small amount of it left now. I suspect I will begin to see more and more NWSG’s emerge in the future to take its place as the summer “grass” component.....Soil conditions effect which plants we see present

Last edited by CNC; 07/30/20 07:24 PM.

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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: 257wbymag] #3180199
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
You’re so full of schit. We have perfect fertility soil up here and we have all the weeds bradb has. It’s all about cultural control. Not soil dip wad


You must be sucking one of the mods toes for them on the weekends for them to allow you to keep on acting like you do.


We dont rent pigs
Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: Broadhead26] #3180201
07/30/20 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Broadhead26
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Broadhead, there are different ways to be a dick. Maybe you just pick up on 257s way a little easier. Sometimes the dickness is a little more subtle. But what do I know


I got you, my initial post was more in jest, but he had to pull the Karen card.

Speaking of, I demand to speak to ze manager!

Im not running CNC down. He has his methods. 257 makes a living managing alot of farmland. If he used CNCs methods, he and his customers would be broke pretty quick. However CNCs methods work well for him in his situation. They cross easy and it probably wont ever get any better. Just one of the fine properties of a trully aldeer experience.

Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: CNC] #3180208
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Originally Posted by CNC
Each plant has its own preferences to the specific growing conditions that it thrives in. Variables such as compaction, poor soil structure, poor aeration, low pH, low soil carbon, absence or dominance of certain soil microbes, etc, etc…..these are all soil conditions that set the stage for some plants to thrive and others to remain virtually non-existent.

I use to have several good size patches of sicklepod but you would be hard pressed to find a single plant now. I believe it started disappearing when fungi returned to my field and the soil had a better balance of bacteria to fungi. Crabgrass was another plant that nearly dominated the whole field in the first few years when there was no soil organic matter and no soil structure. There’s only a small amount of it left now. I suspect I will begin to see more and more NWSG’s emerge in the future to take its place as the summer “grass” component.....Soil conditions effect which plants we see present

Do you think not disking had anything to do with some of those weeds vanishing. You wont find a trace of any nutgrass in our orchard but I would bet the farm, youd have a fine stand of it if I disked it up. Sicklepod acts the same. There wasnt a bit of it where im growing watermelons this year, until I turned it. Its covered up with it now. I had a small pasture I kept a couple horses on, really poor ground. I disked it and planted grass and here come the sicklepod. After that I never did anything but bushhog now and then and the sicklepod eventually went away. The ground was still poor, it would barely even grow grass. Turning and disking will definately make the weeds come up.

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Absolutely like I stated above cultural methods can flare weed seeds that have been laying dormant for long time. That doesn’t indicate poor soil or anything like that. Palmer pigweeds thrive on less canopy competition. Sicklepod can lay dormant for 30 plus years deep in soil then turned to the top and boom here they come. Most weed seed have vectors that distribute them. Equipment animals and so forth. So once again BradB situation doesn’t mean “he caused it” ruining his ground


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Re: I hit the trifecta [Re: jwalker77] #3180229
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by CNC
Each plant has its own preferences to the specific growing conditions that it thrives in. Variables such as compaction, poor soil structure, poor aeration, low pH, low soil carbon, absence or dominance of certain soil microbes, etc, etc…..these are all soil conditions that set the stage for some plants to thrive and others to remain virtually non-existent.

I use to have several good size patches of sicklepod but you would be hard pressed to find a single plant now. I believe it started disappearing when fungi returned to my field and the soil had a better balance of bacteria to fungi. Crabgrass was another plant that nearly dominated the whole field in the first few years when there was no soil organic matter and no soil structure. There’s only a small amount of it left now. I suspect I will begin to see more and more NWSG’s emerge in the future to take its place as the summer “grass” component.....Soil conditions effect which plants we see present

Do you think not disking had anything to do with some of those weeds vanishing. You wont find a trace of any nutgrass in our orchard but I would bet the farm, youd have a fine stand of it if I disked it up. Sicklepod acts the same. There wasnt a bit of it where im growing watermelons this year, until I turned it. Its covered up with it now. I had a small pasture I kept a couple horses on, really poor ground. I disked it and planted grass and here come the sicklepod. After that I never did anything but bushhog now and then and the sicklepod eventually went away. The ground was still poor, it would barely even grow grass. Turning and disking will definately make the weeds come up.

You better believe it. I try to keep my equipment clean of dirt and debris after each job.


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