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Re: Tuning over plots?
[Re: Goatkiller]
#3168073
07/14/20 05:55 PM
07/14/20 05:55 PM
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Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,054 Montgomery, Alabama
jaredhunts
Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Posts: 13,054
Montgomery, Alabama
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Standing about 70-80 bushel acre beans in the summer and about 180 bushel corn left standing for the winter seems to be working pretty well for me as far as horns go. I just really can't afford to buy it by the semi-truck load so I prefer to grow it myself.
It still cost more to plant those beans and corn than doing throw and mow. Deer love Polk salad.
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Re: Tuning over plots?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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07/14/20 05:56 PM
07/14/20 05:56 PM
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Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,054 Montgomery, Alabama
jaredhunts
Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Posts: 13,054
Montgomery, Alabama
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I have several fields with Orangeberg soil that most definitely benefit from being turned. I have some others that are a sandy loam and it doesn't seem to help them as much. My garden land in Coosa county is another soil type that benefits from being turned, and I just do it every year. I've seen enough to know that there is no point in experimenting with it; just turn it every year. I don't think it makes any difference whether you use a diskplow or a moldboard; the effect is the same. It's a lot easier for me to get a neat job with the moldboard, but that may be due to my specific plows and the limited skill of the operator. Auburn ran some experiments years ago on cotton land that had hardpans in the soil. Turning the fields definitely improved yields, but they also found that yields improved almost as much by growing a crop of Bahia grass one year. The Bahia roots would punch holes in the hardpan, and then the cotton roots could use those holes. The effect lasted for several years before they would have to either turn it or grow another Bahia crop. If you have soil like this, you can increase yields for sure by doing something to the hardpan. Goatkiller would not be able to bear watching me break land with my 26 hp tractor and a 2 bottom moldboard, but if I just gear it down and go slow it will do the job. You already have the equipment you need; give it a try and see how it works. If I had any doubts, I would try breaking half of several plots and see how they do compared to the other half. Auburn ain't the only place that can do Ag experiments. Good luck with it! Were is that like button for that pic? I've got two 14 inch john deer ploughs for sale if anybody wants one. They're antiques.
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Re: Tuning over plots?
[Re: Goatkiller]
#3168105
07/14/20 06:26 PM
07/14/20 06:26 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,755 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,755
Awbarn, AL
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Standing about 70-80 bushel acre beans in the summer and about 180 bushel corn left standing for the winter seems to be working pretty well for me as far as horns go. I just really can't afford to buy it by the semi-truck load so I prefer to grow it myself.
I’m sure it does……at an extremely high cost……And how much additional return on your investment do you suppose you are getting over a method like the one I'm using at a fraction of the cost?? If we compare the ROI numbers then does that high dollar farming for wildlife that you’re doing still look like such a pretty picture? I guess it probably does to some folks
Last edited by CNC; 07/14/20 06:28 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Tuning over plots?
[Re: marshmud991]
#3168122
07/14/20 06:45 PM
07/14/20 06:45 PM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
Boo Boo Head
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Boo Boo Head
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Posts: 38,489
N. Bama
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Yep. One of my customers. He used to be in the dairy business
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Tuning over plots?
[Re: marshmud991]
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07/14/20 07:19 PM
07/14/20 07:19 PM
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Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
Boo Boo Head
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Boo Boo Head
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Posts: 38,489
N. Bama
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Even better up here in the river valley. A few more timely rains would have us sitting real nice
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Tuning over plots?
[Re: marshmud991]
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07/14/20 08:28 PM
07/14/20 08:28 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,755 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,755
Awbarn, AL
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How bout them cowboys.......
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Tuning over plots?
[Re: blumsden]
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07/15/20 05:30 PM
07/15/20 05:30 PM
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Posts: 22,150 blount county alabama
jwalker77
Pumpkin
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Pumpkin
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 22,150
blount county alabama
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Heavy equipment on really moist soil causes hard pan as much as anything. Radishes do a good job of breaking up hard pan soil. I started to bring radishes into the conversation a few days ago. 257 has some good info about sodbusters and how theyll break hardpan.
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