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Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3178661
07/28/20 11:47 PM
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Well it's a joke in the gun world.alot of so called gun Smith's are merely gun spray painters cause they think applying cerakote makes them a gunsmith .it's easier faster to apply than hot blue or parkerizing also and affordable compared to nitrided and I believe nitriding comes with EPA regs . i have a cerakoted custom rifle and in no way is cerakote better than a nitrided finish regardless of what they call their version melonite/tenifer/nitrided ..cerakote it's spray paint it can wear off and scuff up and I'll agree it's the best finish that a small shop can apply it is very durable on non friction moving parts but not good as surface hardened treated with nitride.cerakote is used on some factory guns so it's good stuff but my point I wouldn't want it on something that was holstered everyday or gets used hard regularly or I cared what it looked like in 5 years that's where any non spray paint true chemically bonded finish will do better

Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3178665
07/28/20 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
I appreciate the comments. I’ve already shot a 17, 19, and 45. I liked the way the 17 fit my hand. I’m a big fella, and won’t have any problem concealing the 17. I carried a Beretta 92fs for several years....

Which means your going to leave it in your vehicle or at home like the berreta 92.doesnt matter how big you are your not carrying a berreta 92 all day everyday.i bet.hey go buy one you got it all figured out


Got any good stock market tips while you’re at it? Didn’t think so. I’ll just keep being me, and life will continue to be good as it has been. thumbup

Just trying to save you some money for 3 yrs from now when you decide to get something smaller you'll get more use out of.been down that road but hey when you get ready to trade it hit me up I might be needing a idpa match gun 👍

Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3178667
07/29/20 12:02 AM
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Re: Glock 17 [Re: 3% outdoorsman] #3178723
07/29/20 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Well it's a joke in the gun world.alot of so called gun Smith's are merely gun spray painters cause they think applying cerakote makes them a gunsmith .it's easier faster to apply than hot blue or parkerizing also and affordable compared to nitrided and I believe nitriding comes with EPA regs . i have a cerakoted custom rifle and in no way is cerakote better than a nitrided finish regardless of what they call their version melonite/tenifer/nitrided ..cerakote it's spray paint it can wear off and scuff up and I'll agree it's the best finish that a small shop can apply it is very durable on non friction moving parts but not good as surface hardened treated with nitride.cerakote is used on some factory guns so it's good stuff but my point I wouldn't want it on something that was holstered everyday or gets used hard regularly or I cared what it looked like in 5 years that's where any non spray paint true chemically bonded finish will do better


You're right in regards to it not being nitride coatings....Anyone who thinks it is, is delusional.
That said, anyone who who thinks nitride/tenifer/melonite is the be all end all, after seeing what can destroy it, is just as delusional.
I have seen it's weakness, I have also seen what cerakote can and cannot do.

Bluing comes with EPA regs too. I had to sign a statement saying I would NOT being bluing anything without filing a disposal plan with the EPA.
Wish I had room for a bluing tank set up though.


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Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3178831
07/29/20 09:13 AM
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I conceal carried full sized Beretta 92s, 1911s, HiPowers, Glock 17s, and SIG M11/228s and 229s for years and years, here and abroad. Some places I ‘should not’ have carried, due to host nation (or US state) policies, etc. Sure, it’s easier to carry and conceal smaller and lighter stuff. it’s more about need and mindset than worrying about wishes or what is easier.

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Re: Glock 17 [Re: gundoc] #3178837
07/29/20 09:23 AM
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FWIW, the G1/2 finishes have held up far better than those on the later Gen Glocks. This G1 Glock (next to a G3) is OOOOLD. Been carried ALL over. Been shot more than any single handgun I have any first hand experience with. Salt, desert, and jungle exposed.

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Re: Glock 17 [Re: gundoc] #3179146
07/29/20 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gundoc
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Well it's a joke in the gun world.alot of so called gun Smith's are merely gun spray painters cause they think applying cerakote makes them a gunsmith .it's easier faster to apply than hot blue or parkerizing also and affordable compared to nitrided and I believe nitriding comes with EPA regs . i have a cerakoted custom rifle and in no way is cerakote better than a nitrided finish regardless of what they call their version melonite/tenifer/nitrided ..cerakote it's spray paint it can wear off and scuff up and I'll agree it's the best finish that a small shop can apply it is very durable on non friction moving parts but not good as surface hardened treated with nitride.cerakote is used on some factory guns so it's good stuff but my point I wouldn't want it on something that was holstered everyday or gets used hard regularly or I cared what it looked like in 5 years that's where any non spray paint true chemically bonded finish will do better


You're right in regards to it not being nitride coatings....Anyone who thinks it is, is delusional.
That said, anyone who who thinks nitride/tenifer/melonite is the be all end all, after seeing what can destroy it, is just as delusional.
I have seen it's weakness, I have also seen what cerakote can and cannot do.

Bluing comes with EPA regs too. I had to sign a statement saying I would NOT being bluing anything without filing a disposal plan with the EPA.
Wish I had room for a bluing tank set up though.

Yes they def. Both have a strength and weakness for sure both are great and best two things going for durability

Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3179149
07/29/20 03:16 PM
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It does seem the gen 3 and older finishes are slightly better.

Re: Glock 17 [Re: 3% outdoorsman] #3179413
07/29/20 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
I appreciate the comments. I’ve already shot a 17, 19, and 45. I liked the way the 17 fit my hand. I’m a big fella, and won’t have any problem concealing the 17. I carried a Beretta 92fs for several years....

Which means your going to leave it in your vehicle or at home like the berreta 92.doesnt matter how big you are your not carrying a berreta 92 all day everyday.i bet.hey go buy one you got it all figured out


Got any good stock market tips while you’re at it? Didn’t think so. I’ll just keep being me, and life will continue to be good as it has been. thumbup

Just trying to save you some money for 3 yrs from now when you decide to get something smaller you'll get more use out of.been down that road but hey when you get ready to trade it hit me up I might be needing a idpa match gun 👍


rolleyes Makes me wonder how I’ve made it 49 years without you.... rolleyes


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Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3179437
07/29/20 08:50 PM
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Probably thinks that’s gonna be the only pistol you own. I say buy whatever you want and shoot the chit out of it. My name is BCLC and I’m an enabler thumbup


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Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3180158
07/30/20 06:51 PM
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Had the same experience as Gundoc. 4 deployments in the sandbox gets you a lot of experiences with finish and reliability. The Glock never missed a beat. The finish, not so much...

Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3180163
07/30/20 06:53 PM
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Gundoc, btw, Michael Smiths 6.5 that you put a break on for his daughter is amazing. I still can’t get him to sell
Me that gun though 🤷🏼‍♂️ I got some work
Coming your way lol

Re: Glock 17 [Re: J_Martin] #3180533
07/31/20 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by J_Martin
Gundoc, btw, Michael Smiths 6.5 that you put a break on for his daughter is amazing. I still can’t get him to sell
Me that gun though 🤷🏼‍♂️ I got some work
Coming your way lol

Awesome! Thanks!!
thumbup


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Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3180620
07/31/20 09:06 AM
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I had a gen 3 and loved it but the back straps on the gen 4 were worth the upgrade. I’m kicking around a gen 5 34 myself. I really don’t think you can go wrong with either. Only Glock I haven’t been able to keep was the 26. I’ve tried and it’s too uncomfortable to carry for the round capacity. I’d just assume carry a 19.


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Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3180741
07/31/20 11:38 AM
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Yeah, the 26/27 is too small for my liking too.


There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!

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Re: Glock 17 [Re: Claims Rep.] #3180828
07/31/20 01:17 PM
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Globe,

What do you think about the 43x? I am carrying it with the shield arms mags that make it hold 16 rounds. It is my favorite carry piece so far.


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Re: Glock 17 [Re: gundoc] #3180888
07/31/20 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gundoc
Yeah, the 26/27 is too small for my liking too.


I run 26s with a grip boot on G19 mags. ....feels and shoots like a 19 after that.

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