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Soil sample results ? #3175945
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I sent off a soil sample for a few of our plots and they came back with a low PH from 4.1 to 4.5 which I was expecting. I would say that is not helping at all being that low. The fertilizer was kinda all over the map P from 0 to 90 and K from 0 to 70 which I figure just split the difference and call it good. But on the N it called for 100lb which seems like a lot. For you guys that sent these off before is 100lb of nitrogen per acre pretty common.


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What crop and yield goal you put down for that fert rec? And is that 100lbs or 100 units as the rec?


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Results from Auburn. I put down food plot wheat, oats and rye. It says 100 lb/acre


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I mainly did it to see how much lime we needed to put out. The fertilizer amount just seemed high.


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100 lbs of N is much at all. Now 100 units is roughly what we put under a high yield wheat crop


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So let’s say the results called for N 100 P 50 K 50. That would that would be 500lbs of 20-10-10 per acre correct.


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That would do it

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500 lbs of 20-10-10 seems like a lot of fertilizer. More than I have ever put out anywhere.


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You’re reading it in units. Ok you need to put say 40-50 bushel per acre on yield goals for plots on avg. they’re assuming you are row crop farming fertilizing. I’d never recommend 100 units for plots. It’s a waste of $$


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Definitely on the high side for a food plot. We do 200-250 lbs triple 17 at planting and 100 lbs of ammonium nitrate mid December. Add extra p and k at planting if soil test calls for it

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You can sling dumptruck loads of fert but until you raise that ph it won’t help. But you know that cause that’s what you stated you wanted mostly was PH reading.


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If it were me once I got PH addressed which you better do ASAP I’d put down a 50-30-30-15 for plots. Can’t go wrong there. And fert prices are way down year over year


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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
You’re reading it in units. Ok you need to put say 40-50 bushel per acre on yield goals for plots on avg. they’re assuming you are row crop farming fertilizing. I’d never recommend 100 units for plots. It’s a waste of $$


Well I plainly wrote Food Plot on the paper. And under recommendations it says N pounds/acre 100. When they say 100 do they not mean 100lbs of actually nitrogen. Which would 200lbs of 46-0-0 or 300lbs of 33-0-0- that is the way I have always read these things is that wrong.


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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
If it were me once I got PH addressed which you better do ASAP I’d put down a 50-30-30-15 for plots. Can’t go wrong there. And fert prices are way down year over year


We are putting lime out. Not sure what 50-30-30-15 never seen that in bags.


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100lb of nitrogen. If you dont fix your ph the plants will only use 35-40lb of that nitrogen, the rest is wasted. Spend your money on lime.

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
100lb of nitrogen. If you dont fix your ph the plants will only use 35-40lb of that nitrogen, the rest is wasted. Spend your money on lime.


I understand that part. Gonna spend money on both.


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Ok when I tell one of my customers he needs a 100-50-50 I’m not talking in pounds. Talking in units. So is AU on your rec. cause they don’t know if you’re putting out 100lbs of urea or 100 lbs of nitrate. Huge difference in N between those 2 products. Or if you’re gonna use DAP for your P poundage.


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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Ok when I tell one of my customers he needs a 100-50-50 I’m not talking in pounds. Talking in units. So is AU on your rec. cause they don’t know if you’re putting out 100lbs of urea or 100 lbs of nitrate. Huge difference in N between those 2 products. Or if you’re gonna use DAP for your P poundage.


So what I said was correct. If the report says 100 it means 100 pounds/units of actual N. Which could be 200-300-400 pounds of actual fertilizer depending on which you use.


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Pounds and units are not the same thing. . It’s what I’m trying to tell you.

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I had actually bought one of those little kits to test the soil PH kinda like a pool water tester. I tested the 4 plots and then sent it to AU to see if they were accurate. I tested all 4 plots and the results of the home test kit was almost exactly 1.0 higher than the soil test results from AU on all four plots.

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