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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3168054
07/14/20 05:22 PM
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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3168072
07/14/20 05:54 PM
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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You know what, you can plant those tall tine tubers to bust that hard pan.


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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: Goatkiller] #3168073
07/14/20 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Standing about 70-80 bushel acre beans in the summer and about 180 bushel corn left standing for the winter seems to be working pretty well for me as far as horns go. I just really can't afford to buy it by the semi-truck load so I prefer to grow it myself.


It still cost more to plant those beans and corn than doing throw and mow. Deer love Polk salad.


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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #3168074
07/14/20 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


I have several fields with Orangeberg soil that most definitely benefit from being turned. I have some others that are a sandy loam and it doesn't seem to help them as much. My garden land in Coosa county is another soil type that benefits from being turned, and I just do it every year. I've seen enough to know that there is no point in experimenting with it; just turn it every year. I don't think it makes any difference whether you use a diskplow or a moldboard; the effect is the same. It's a lot easier for me to get a neat job with the moldboard, but that may be due to my specific plows and the limited skill of the operator.

Auburn ran some experiments years ago on cotton land that had hardpans in the soil. Turning the fields definitely improved yields, but they also found that yields improved almost as much by growing a crop of Bahia grass one year. The Bahia roots would punch holes in the hardpan, and then the cotton roots could use those holes. The effect lasted for several years before they would have to either turn it or grow another Bahia crop. If you have soil like this, you can increase yields for sure by doing something to the hardpan.

Goatkiller would not be able to bear watching me break land with my 26 hp tractor and a 2 bottom moldboard, but if I just gear it down and go slow it will do the job. You already have the equipment you need; give it a try and see how it works. If I had any doubts, I would try breaking half of several plots and see how they do compared to the other half. Auburn ain't the only place that can do Ag experiments. Good luck with it!

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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: Goatkiller] #3168105
07/14/20 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Standing about 70-80 bushel acre beans in the summer and about 180 bushel corn left standing for the winter seems to be working pretty well for me as far as horns go. I just really can't afford to buy it by the semi-truck load so I prefer to grow it myself.




I’m sure it does……at an extremely high cost……And how much additional return on your investment do you suppose you are getting over a method like the one I'm using at a fraction of the cost?? If we compare the ROI numbers then does that high dollar farming for wildlife that you’re doing still look like such a pretty picture? I guess it probably does to some folks

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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3168121
07/14/20 06:44 PM
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257, I saw some of the prettiest corn and beans in the bottoms on apple valley rd on the way to somerville this morning. You ever seen the place? I bet some of that corn was 10ft tall and just nearly black it was so dark.

Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3168122
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Yep. One of my customers. He used to be in the dairy business


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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3168132
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Beautiful crops.

Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3168153
07/14/20 07:19 PM
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Even better up here in the river valley. A few more timely rains would have us sitting real nice


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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3168226
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How bout them cowboys.......


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Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3168555
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Heavy equipment on really moist soil causes hard pan as much as anything. Radishes do a good job of breaking up hard pan soil.

Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: blumsden] #3168919
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Originally Posted by blumsden
Heavy equipment on really moist soil causes hard pan as much as anything. Radishes do a good job of breaking up hard pan soil.

I started to bring radishes into the conversation a few days ago. 257 has some good info about sodbusters and how theyll break hardpan.

Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3172552
07/20/20 10:07 PM
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We plant radishes every year. Sodbuster, Daikon, groundhog; they are all pretty much the same. Tubers get a couple inches in diameter and can send a taproot down 15-20”. They work great for hard pan.

Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3172605
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I add 1.5lb to 2.5lb per acre of Daikon to my normal winter mix, they do a good job breaking up the ground. I have not tilled in 5 years. I made a mistake about 4 years ago and planted 5lb to the acre, it was a true radish patch, the smell in the spring when they all started to rot was impressive.

Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3176771
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I hang a bottom plow in my plots every year👍

Re: Tuning over plots? [Re: marshmud991] #3177215
07/27/20 09:53 AM
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I'm gonna turn one of our plots in TN this year. There's about a 100 foot radius in it that always produces arrowheads wink


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