I would love to be able to do that.Unfortunately I don't believe a $10,000 no till drill is in my foreseeable future.

Agreed

More like $20k.

If I was going to spend $20k on a drill it wouldn’t be his brand it would be a Great Plains.

You fellas that are interested in a No-till drill for food plots check out the new Tar River drill that has just been recently introduced on the market. It's for food plotters that do not want to invest 15K to 20K on great plains or land pride. There is one listed on ebay with free shipping within 1000 miles. I will most likely own one before fall planting.

Buffalo system ain't throw and mow. Woods basically chits on the throw n mow method in one episode. I like his youtube channel and the buffalo deal is neat. He is selling a product and that's all. Nothing wrong with profit. I still want a no till drill or planter. It would save time for me but time is at a premium for me this time of year.

Thing looks like a complete toy, ready to fail.

What give you that impression?

I use a KASCO unit now that is an okay unit. If it had double seed openers like the Tar River it would perform much better. The Tar River is built similar to the kasco, but with some nicer features. It might be junk as I have not seen a unit in person. Based off my research I'm gonna give one a try if I like what I see in person. I do not have 15K to 20K to invest in a Great Plains or Land Pride for food plots. The Tar River unit will work just fine in my soil type.

It just simply doesn't work easily like they are showing in the video. That's misleading to say the least. My much bigger heaver and better Great Plains drill would have a difficult time planting into all that matted down grass. I've done it and you have to up the seed rate a bunch (30% in my experience) and you waste a lot of seed, etc. And you just don't get a professional looking job or stand of whatever you are planting. If you are only planting a couple acres this is out of your price range. If you are planting enough ground to justify the cost of the drill you just spent 30% more on seed yearly. That can be a significant amount of money and ongoing increased operating costs. If you have a variety of weeds that roll crimper doesn't work. You have to have to appropriate cover crop and roll it at the appropriate time. It can be a real challenge. You have to have the biomass to get the weed suppression and the roller really needs to be in front of the tractor because where you are driving your tires are going first and the roll crimper doesn't work well on your tire tracks. You wind up with a mess. If you are pulling a crimper the same width as the tractor you will have problems.

Just doesn't work like that or that efficiently. It does work I'm not saying that. In experience Cutting and spraying it works a lot better. You can get an equally crappy stand of whatever you want to plant just throwing and mowing IMO.

How did you go about planting in to the terminated vegetation? Did you lay it down and then drill into it etc??? From my understanding of it you are supposed to drill into a stand of vegetation that is really green or really brown but not during the period when its drying down. Its supposed to get real tough during that period and not work well

Just a side note for discussion but do y'all know why its called the buffalo system to begin with??

It's called the "buffalo system" because the underlying principles at play mimic how the huge herds of buffalos used to manage the vegetation across the Great Plains and the impacts that it had on the soil and other animal populations. The herds of buffalo would basically "mob graze" a large area of land. They would consume about 1/3 of the vegetation....they would trample down about 1/3.....and they would leave about 1/3......In the process they would fertilize the area with manure before moving on to another area......Once they moved out the area would rebound with lush diversity teaming from a nutrient rich soil full of life that provided the food and cover for animals like deer and antelope.

Now there was nothing neat and orderly about the way the buffalo managed the vegetation but the end result was highly effective. The biggest problem with food plotters today is that most folks are worried about the wrong end results. They’re caught up on producing pretty pictures of green fields to put on seed bags or magazine covers. Is that picture the end result that you are really the most concerned with though??? Are you worried about it being “pretty” or effective??

Man several of those deserved to be shoulder mounted. Very nice spread.

Thanks....

I planted it directly after rolling it. Doesn't work worth a crap you really need the roller out in front of the tractor and pull the planter behind. How the cover crop stand looks has a lot to do with the success rate IMO and this is another amount of work and problems not addressed with this seemingly easy solution.

I'm a little jaded when watching any of his videos on it because he's twisting around the truth to sell products. It's hard to know what to believe and what not to believe as being factual unless you've studied and understand the concepts for yourself

I agree. I think he’s a smart guy but that whole angle has soured me on his videos.

It'll be extremely interesting to see where things go in the future. When this all started back years ago on the QDMA forum....it never even crossed my mind at the effect it would or could have on the $$$ flow. I was just experimenting.....The cat is too far out of the bag now though to put it back in regardless of what I or anyone else does from here on out.......It just becomes more and more obvious as to their intentions when someone tries to do so...…