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Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions #3144121
06/12/20 09:57 AM
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I searched and read the old posts. I'm battling this stuff in a couple of places. Old threads didn't quite answer all my questions, so trying here.

First - horse nettle - sounds like grazon next hl is the way to go, but my question is - what will it do to fall planting? it say grasses are fine (wheat, etc.), but what about clover? Also, I'm a little worried about overspray near trees. Will this stuff kill trees if you get it in their drip line? An alternative, I guess would be to mix it up in a backpack sprayer and spot spray? But, I'd again have the same question. And yes, I have read the label, but it's not crystal clear either. Best time to apply it?

Sicklepod - sounds to me like if you catch it in it's small stage, glyphosate will kill it? or if you mow and spray gly, it will kill it? is that right? Or just use the grazon?

Thanks.

Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3144617
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Gly will kill sicklepod. Problem with sicklepod is that it doesn't appear until June, after you've already planted in may. I hand pulled a bunch in my younger days.

Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3144641
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I hand pull it also.


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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3144777
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Is this for your food plots?

Depending on what trees you have adjacent to the area, I don’t think you will have a problem with tree injury. Pines can be a little more sensitive, but you have to get a lot in the root zone to see any. Shouldn’t be a problem for hardwoods.

Seeding fall cereals can be tricky, as the residual left depends on rainfall, temps, soil type, etc. My personal feeling is you would be ok, particularly if you disc it first. Clover probably won’t work. Legumes are fairly sensitive to aminopyralid and I don’t believe you will get a stand this fall.

It has been 20 years since I did row crop work, and there are a lot of new products since then. Sencor and Classic were a couple products we used most back then.

257 may be along shortly and have some good recommendations.


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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3145251
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I’ve gone back to using sencor behind most of my bean acres 007. That’s a very effective pre in soybeans.


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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3145667
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We pulled sicklepod for about a hr today but it’s not gonna take over


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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3145685
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Ive got it(sicklepod) in one patch of my watermelons. Not sure what to about it except to plow rows and disk middles. I know when I get them laid by the next good rain will bring them on again. I just hope the watermelons can compete with them after that.

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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3145817
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What crop are you trying to protect while in the process of spraying the sicklepod?


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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3146698
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At this point, I am not trying to protect anything except a fall planting. i tried a summer throw and mow plot, which was a failure, so I'm just trying to keep the invasive weeds out so I can replant next summer. I don't think I am going to try another summer plot.

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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3146847
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You can buy a pint of Milestone and it will take care of the sicklepod and also should kill the horsenettle. It has little residual and very effective at killing broadleaf. Everything I have ever sprayed Milestone on that was broadleaf was killed. I have killed a lot of sicklepod/coffeweed with milestone.

I normally mix 4 oz per 25 gallon of water in my ATV sprayer. A pint will go a long way if used properly.

https://www.keystonepestsolutions.c...9?zenid=27c1b1181cf2fd4b731acbe27a26c8a9

You can use 2-4D which is much cheaper but it will have some residual.


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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3146988
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how is milestone if you plant in the fall behind it? that is, how long is the residual? NVM. since, I posted that I contacted the folks in the link you provided. They said plant back is 18-24 months. Strong stuff!!!

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Re: Sicklepod and Horsenettle redux - questions [Re: ALFisher] #3147496
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I use the Milestone in my chufa plots and never plant a fall crop in those areas. I did not read it had that long of a residual so I learned something. You can check out IMOX as it might work for you and it states it has a low residual in the description. I have only used it in a spot spray application but it was not on sicklepod or horsenettle,

https://www.keystonepestsolutions.c...1?zenid=99eee473c5a5502e23591029a9bf9a39


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