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Re: Converting Pasture to Quality Habitat
[Re: Bama_Bow_Hunter]
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04/03/20 12:40 PM
04/03/20 12:40 PM
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What are the current conditions like? Is it all a monoculture of grass right now?
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Re: Converting Pasture to Quality Habitat
[Re: Bama_Bow_Hunter]
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04/03/20 08:42 PM
04/03/20 08:42 PM
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Another question to add.....What type of soil are we dealing with?
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Re: Converting Pasture to Quality Habitat
[Re: Bama_Bow_Hunter]
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04/05/20 08:48 AM
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Call your local NRCS office and they can give you a lot of options from Native grasses, to longleaf restoration and they will help you pay for it. Parts of the property that qualify for WRE program could also be an option which means they will cut you a nice check.
Never Trust Government
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Re: Converting Pasture to Quality Habitat
[Re: Remington270]
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04/06/20 11:08 AM
04/06/20 11:08 AM
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I'd row crop as much as I could, and burn the rest on a rotation. Row crop is out of the question... too much elevation change and honestly not anywhere near "row crop country" unfortunately. It's currently a mixture of what appears to be fescue/centipede/bahia with a lot of broadleaf weeds as well. Did not even think to speak with the NRCS folks... great information and will reach out to them shortly.
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Re: Converting Pasture to Quality Habitat
[Re: Bama_Bow_Hunter]
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04/06/20 01:27 PM
04/06/20 01:27 PM
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I'd row crop as much as I could, and burn the rest on a rotation. Row crop is out of the question... too much elevation change and honestly not anywhere near "row crop country" unfortunately. It's currently a mixture of what appears to be fescue/centipede/bahia with a lot of broadleaf weeds as well. Did not even think to speak with the NRCS folks... great information and will reach out to them shortly. I just meant you planting a bunch of corn and/or beans. And yes the NRCS can help you a lot, if you talk to the right folks.
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Re: Converting Pasture to Quality Habitat
[Re: Bama_Bow_Hunter]
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04/06/20 03:14 PM
04/06/20 03:14 PM
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I agree.with contacting the NRCS.....Just for the sake of conversation though.....
I'd go in the there the first fall and spray the grass with Clethodim to at least stunt it and then I'd spread crimson clover pretty heavy on it. You could spray gly but if you have a good amount of broadleafs then I'd leave them in the mix and use a grass select herbicide. The reason for going with the clover like this is to bring in a nitrogen supply to help get the soil system back in balance and properly functioning. This is taking somewhat of a guess but there's a good chance that your soil system is bogged down with carbon and needing the N to decompose it and get the system cycling like it should...Without doing something like this you're likely going to have anything you try to grow run N deficient until the balance is restored. I just got through dealing with the same exact situation. Old pasture land overwhelmed in a monoculture of bahaigrass. We tried establishing cereal grains the first year. They germinated pretty well but thrsn N deficient all year. We would add N.....they would start to perk up and then bam back to yellowy...The build up of bahaigrass wasnrobbimg the N to use in decomposition....it gets what it needs first and when those needs are met....then the plants are fed. You may likley deal with the same situation and is why I'm throwing out the idea of a rotstiom of crimson clover to get started
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Re: Converting Pasture to Quality Habitat
[Re: Bama_Bow_Hunter]
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04/12/20 04:03 PM
04/12/20 04:03 PM
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Converting it to native grassland can be done with herbicide but you have to get rid of that pasture grass. Maybe some native grassland and some plots?
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