Did it include the pay raise for Congress that Nasty Nancy had in her version. Of course she said the $25,000/year increase was not a raise but a Cost of Living increase.

Normal Americans are going to get $1200 while she and her ilk want $25,000.

This really pisses me off but when I think about it I'm calmed by the fact that one day she will have to stand before The Great Throne of Judgement and account for every dollar immorally taken and every unborn/just born baby she played a part in killing.

She will rot

Are welfare recipients gonna get a check? Are retired persons?

Everyone will, even the people that have never had a job. Hell some dead folks will get a check and maybe even Ol Bleu.

A lot of invalid aunts and uncles living in houses being taken care of by the homeowners will be surfacing that no one ever knew about. Like my Aunt Nita Cheque.

Then there’s a lot of folks who won’t get a dime being income above the numbers stated. So not everyone gets a check technically

I think it is going to be limited and paid based on individual filers of income tax returns in 2018. No 2018 return, no check, based on what I have seen. And Matt's right, whole bunch of people are not going to get checks or will get greatly reduced checks due to making too much money. Especially those that own a small business/LLC and are forced to run that income through their individual returns. 2018 was a good year for most small businesses with the surging stock market, high consumer confidence, and low mortgage rates. Lots of inflated 1040 returns as business income flowed through to a bunch of small business owner's personal returns. As usual, lots of people that actually employ people and help drive the economy will end up not getting a dime, while the porch sitters and baby makers get a bonus check.

They got this in the bill, too:

$75 mill for public television/radio
$25 mil for the Kennedy Center
$75 mil for the Natl Endowment for the Arts
$75 mill for the Natl Endowment for the Humanities

That's a good way to do it. Although I wish they'd just return the check I wrote them in 2018... Or use 2019 taxes if already filed so my daughter can be included on dat "free" money.

Not a good way. See my revised post above.

Noted. Forgot how good of a year 2018 was for small business. Now I need to go back and check ours to see if we'll even qualify. Fortunately, I'm still working from home through this so we will be ok even with no income from my wife. It will be dificult but we can do it. I know many others who won't be ok.

They made sure none of Trump's hotels will get any money either.

It'll be determined on 2019 or 2018 tax returns.

Both sides put in pet projects for their friends and buddies.

Everyone involved up there knows you put in everything and negotiate to the end. Making sausage ain't pretty.

They definitely are taking care of the airlines who spread the virus seeds around in the chemtrails.

They cannot use the 2019 returns after just granting an extension to July15th. Would take too long to get the money out. They said that if you have not filed your 2019 return, they will use your 2018 return to determine eligibility.

It also says that none of the members of Congress' companies can get any either, which is fair in my opinion.

I'll bet there are very few members of congress who have legitimate small businesses other than shell LLC's set up to launder money through. Congressional members make their money off the books in kickbacks to family members, insider stock trading and the likes. They dont need assistance money, they are assisted every day and we the US citizens just allow it to continue.

Not a good way to do it at all. Once again my wife and I will get penalized for having good jobs. I make good money but have to sacrifice a lot to get that check. So for that, I get hardly nothing and the people that haven’t paid a dime into the system will get all of it. And USA acts like they’re against distribution of wealth. We do it every year.

They think that just because thery are twisted crooks that everyone else is. trump will make his after he leaves office in 4 more yrs !

You really think that would be in there if Trump was not osing millions of dollars a day at his hotels? It was targeted at him. Honestly, he will probably be the only politician to leave office poorer than he went in.

on a call now about this. Pm me with any questions. I will try to check back here, but we are running crazy right now

Gross or adjusted income? Which will they look at?

Adjusted income. 75,000 single filer, 150.000 joint filing. starts going down after them numbers till it hits zero around 99,000 single 198,000 joint. I believe it's $5 for every $100 above the 1st set of numbers

So is this free money going to be taxed . I’m not familiar with this handout stuff.....

I'm sure there will be taxes on it somehow, plus it will add to ur income when we file in 2021 so they will get something back for sure.

I still want to know if the congressional bastages voted themselves the $25,000 raise...erhm, excuse me...."Cost of Living Increase"?

i would be surprised if they didn’t

The fact that we haven't heard anything about it probably means they did.

That really chaps my arse about that raise.

yall got a source for this info or is just word of mouth

The pay raise for Congress was never verified.

Got laid off tonight. Gonna draw $685 unemployment from Pennsylvania plus $600 from the stimulus. That’s a big pay cut.

Where did you work at?

The raise? It was reported by the media to be included in Pelosi's dream bill, and I heard her say that it wasn't a raise, it was a cost of living increase (piss on my leg and tell me it's raining) but haven't heard anything else. Some of her bill made it into the Senate's final bill but I haven't heard if the raise did or not, thus my query.

don't know why this is being discussed , there is no relief bill, some idiot from KY> has the bill stopped because he don't like it , if I was TRUMP, id make sure no checks ever go to any one in KY> , if there ever is any relief checks !!!!!!

Just skimmed through the actual bill being voted on today. They need to scrap it. The GOP caved and the majority of this funding goes straight to government agencies/Democrat pet projects/money laundering slush funds. There’s no reason this bill should be more than 20 pages long. It’s 850 ish on my iPhone. Congress gets 25M for “salaries and expenses”. Refugee resettlement and immigration assistance 300M. International Development fund 250M. HBCU’s get block grants. For IT Systems there is 2.15B allocated. States and certain state organizations are going to receive a ton of money (not totally disagreeing on these allocations but damn, how much money is really being spent by states on this virus), planned parenthood gets a ton of money. If you call yourself conservative you ought to go read through the copious amount of unrelated bullchit that has been thrown into this. If every single American got 1200.00 bucks (which is a ball park average, some will get nothing while others get to claim their 5 dependents) then that adds up to roughly 396 billion. There are provisions to allow small businesses to get a 10k advance and apply for gov backed loans through the SBA. So let’s say that’s going to amount to 500billion. We are still shy of 1Trillion. Overall this bill has close to 2trillion allocated in funds. The taxpayers are being bent over and Neegan’s bat is about to be rammed up our rears. The government elites are about to cash in on the backs of the American tax payer like never before. So yeah, I’m with Massey on this. This thing needs to go to a full vote where all those in favor can be counted. This pisses me off that in a time of supposed crisis, the people we elected see it as an opportunity to further grease their palms. The swamp is alive and well and the GOP is in on this just as much as the Dems.. I’ll get off my soap box now.

I am right there with you; A bill that is tailored to be a relief from the impacts of the virus, should be that and that ALONE.
They squeeze all this other b.s. In there so they can steal more of our money.
If they truly want to help the American people, freeze income tax until this thing dies down.
"Drain the swamp", hahaha, what a joke our government is.

So 25mil for congressional salary and expenses divided by 465 members of Congress equates to a $53,763.44 raise per member or somewhere in that neighborhood while the rest of us get $1200 to weather the storm.

Every one of them need to go and we just need to start over.

anyone wonder how they draft 850 pages that quick? did they have these basic outline already sitting ready with a main focus to put on the front of it?

I am looking into the lending end of it and how this impacts our small businesses we deal with. It seems the paycheck protection program they built into this may be hard to monitor (imagine that).

We will have to wait for SBA to get ahold of it and tell us how they are going to implement it and how they are going to quantify the needs.

I imagine the Aides were given specific topics to write a section on and what is should say. So in all likelihood, the whole thing was written by Aides and the members voting on it have no idea what it says.

Just another piece of legislation that will have to pass so we can see what it says.

$11 BILLION for Africa???

...and it passed on a voice vote even with a few Republicans that have actual principles voting no. The spineless establishment GOP rolls over again. Wouldn’t even ask for a recorded vote.

Funny how a bunch of “conservatives” are all about government redistribution of wealth, when it is them that’s getting the check......

What I do know is there are two different small business loans available that will help reduce layoffs and keep small businesses from suffering as much. 4% or less rate fixed for 10 years. The one passed and signed today has a full loan forgiveness portion if the loan is used for several specific purposes: paying salaries, paying contract workers, paying business rent, debt service or insurance...CPA to certify funds used and entire loan will be forgiven ...the available business loan is set at 2.5 months of total business salaries/wages paid based on last 12 months...4% loan for 10 years that can be forgiven if money spent in qualifying manner.

Cash flow is King right now. Every business needs cash flow even if a loan with great terms.

For more details of above
https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/congress-poised-to-pass-massive-loan-43953/

No potential for abuse in that.

It will not be taxed.

Now who would abuse a government program?? Surely not!

But there's also potential for small businesses to take out loans that they are responsible for paying back to get much needed cash flow in order to save the business from going under, laying off employees and all the bad trickle down economics that occur. That's a good thing.

But like most legislation, it's full of potential problems too.

So what to expect for 18 and 20 year olds working part time and going to college that live at home?

I assume you claimed them on your taxes last year. If so and you and your wife filed jointly and made under $150K. then they will add $500 each to your check for a total of $3400. If they filed their own taxes then they will get $1200 but you will lose whatever deduction you got for them on your taxes.

My situation is similar but my daughter graduated in Dec so we can't claim her anymore but we did last year so we'll get credit on our relief check.

That is the way I understand it but the accountant will have the final say soon when we get them the paperwork from last year.

The congressman from Kentucky was doing his constitutional duty that he took an oath to uphold. It’s a damn shame that all the republicans don’t think like him. A true fiscal conservative.

They are using the 2019 tax info you turned in. If you didnt file in 2019 then they are using 2018 info. I cant believe people just assume everyone is getting free money. Thats money they stole from the ones who worked for it. The ones who didnt work aint getting squat.

So if you moved, you better have changed your address. That takes 4 to 6 wks to process. The payment will be received according to your 2019 bank info that you filed on your tax refund or payment. 2018 info if no 2019 tax history. Its on the news everywhere. Direct deposit if that's the way you filed your 2019 taxes to get your refund or payment. They say 3wks. Longer for paper checks. Lools like we will get a 2nd draw as well 6wks after the 1st agreement. Cause they done closed schools for the year. News said we get a 2nd wave of checks at 6wks if we are still shut down. It aint looking good.

The payment technically is a tax credit advanced to your 2020 taxes that you’ll report on the return you file in 2021.

dang your right. I didnt even think of that.

Google is your friend.

No Pay Raise

The wording in the bill is 25mil for salaries and other expenses. The fact check that claims this is not for raises is based on two congressmen telling them that it isn't for raises but other things. If you want to believe them, go ahead, but I know better. They got caught and now want to worm out of it.

We are witnessing the death of the debt based paper dollar. The tide has gone out to sea before the tsunami. When these checks hit peoples hands the shelves will already be almost empty. The new digital currency will be rolled out very soon and our paper will be worthless. You better have something in your hands instead of a bank.