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Polaris Ranger piston slap #3059207
03/05/20 04:47 PM
03/05/20 04:47 PM
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I have my ranger at the shop getting some work done on it. It's a "new to me" ranger. They called to give me an estimate and said the engine was making what they thought was a piston slap sound. They wanted a 3 hour breakdown charge just to investigate further. It sounded like a blackhole of growing costs, so I told them to hold off on doing that and I'll cross that bridge later if it gets worse.

Should I go ahead and let them dive into it? I'm not mechanically inclined enough to do it myself nor do I have the time, so that's not an option.

Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059208
03/05/20 04:49 PM
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can you describe the problem you are having?


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059216
03/05/20 05:04 PM
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Best option would be to see if you could trade it in and buy a Honda.

Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: jmudler] #3059217
03/05/20 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jmudler
can you describe the problem you are having?


Well, I'm not having any problems with the engine that I'm aware of, or at least I didn't notice it sounding bad. I took it in b/c I knew there was an axle and bearing issue in the front end and also go ahead and get everything serviced and I asked them to give it a "check up" since it was new to me. Otherwise, it's been running just fine.

Last edited by hallb; 03/05/20 05:06 PM.
Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059219
03/05/20 05:09 PM
03/05/20 05:09 PM
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Keep running it. Could be a little slack in the timing chain. Could be a slight cylinder wall wear or wrist pin.
Either way it'll likely continue you many more hours of reliable service before any major repairs are needed.


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059231
03/05/20 05:27 PM
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Where did you take it because I want to make sure I don't go there?

Sounds like a robbery in progress to me if it was running good and you haven't noticed anything. You are talking about the piston skirt slapping the cylinder wall. That means the cylinder wall clearance is excessive.

Do you think the rings would be sealing pretty good if that was the case? You might hear piston slap on a cold start but it should go away. But if there is a serious problem there is no way you would not have noticed it and burning oil, etc.



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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059235
03/05/20 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by jmudler
can you describe the problem you are having?


Well, I'm not having any problems with the engine that I'm aware of, or at least I didn't notice it sounding bad. I took it in b/c I knew there was an axle and bearing issue in the front end and also go ahead and get everything serviced and I asked them to give it a "check up" since it was new to me. Otherwise, it's been running just fine.


I wouldnt touch the engine until performance or audible issues. Go get your ranger and say thanks but no thanks.


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: jmudler] #3059251
03/05/20 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by jmudler
can you describe the problem you are having?


Well, I'm not having any problems with the engine that I'm aware of, or at least I didn't notice it sounding bad. I took it in b/c I knew there was an axle and bearing issue in the front end and also go ahead and get everything serviced and I asked them to give it a "check up" since it was new to me. Otherwise, it's been running just fine.


I wouldnt touch the engine until performance or audible issues. Go get your ranger and say thanks but no thanks.


This is Ward's in Troy, AL. Yeah, that's what I told them just making sure I wasn't going to regret it later, it's my first ranger so wasn't sure if that was some common issue that's better addressed early. Another ridiculous thing is I asked them to quote on changing the boots on the steering guess it's the pinion and they said Polaris didn't just sell the boots or replace the boots, they had to do the whole steering and rack and pinion and it was going to be $600 or something. I told them no thanks, that bare knuckle is just fine.

I don't really think they were trying to gig me - even though I'm sure they would have loved for me to say yes to both of those. I think the piston slap knock, they were just doing some CYA in case I came back and said, "Well I didn't notice this sound until I brought it to you guys for service."

Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059252
03/05/20 05:58 PM
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That's probably true about the steering assembly. Lots of manufacturers are going that route now, instead of selling individual parts.
And many times you'll make it up on labor because it's much easier to install the assembly than to break it down and replace one or two parts.


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059255
03/05/20 06:06 PM
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I use Wards alot and they are fair compared to the rest of the dealers around. Like said before run it till it quits.


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059261
03/05/20 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by jmudler
can you describe the problem you are having?


Well, I'm not having any problems with the engine that I'm aware of, or at least I didn't notice it sounding bad. I took it in b/c I knew there was an axle and bearing issue in the front end and also go ahead and get everything serviced and I asked them to give it a "check up" since it was new to me. Otherwise, it's been running just fine.


I wouldnt touch the engine until performance or audible issues. Go get your ranger and say thanks but no thanks.


This is Ward's in Troy, AL. Yeah, that's what I told them just making sure I wasn't going to regret it later, it's my first ranger so wasn't sure if that was some common issue that's better addressed early. Another ridiculous thing is I asked them to quote on changing the boots on the steering guess it's the pinion and they said Polaris didn't just sell the boots or replace the boots, they had to do the whole steering and rack and pinion and it was going to be $600 or something. I told them no thanks, that bare knuckle is just fine.

I don't really think they were trying to gig me - even though I'm sure they would have loved for me to say yes to both of those. I think the piston slap knock, they were just doing some CYA in case I came back and said, "Well I didn't notice this sound until I brought it to you guys for service."


What year/model ranger do you have? I've got an 800 and Adams motorsports was able to replace the boots on my steering without replacing the full assembly. But I wouldn't recommend Adams for other reasons.

Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: Out back] #3059264
03/05/20 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Out back
That's probably true about the steering assembly. Lots of manufacturers are going that route now, instead of selling individual parts.
And many times you'll make it up on labor because it's much easier to install the assembly than to break it down and replace one or two parts.


Yeah, I mean I didn't really think they were trying to get one over on me. But hell, the way I see it is if I have to just change out the part I'm trying to protect anyways with the boot, then I'm just going to run it until there's a problem with it.

This is a 2015 570 Crew.

Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059326
03/05/20 07:17 PM
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I don't really think they were trying to gig me - even though I'm sure they would have loved for me to say yes to both of those. I think the piston slap knock, they were just doing some CYA in case I came back and said, "Well I didn't notice this sound until I brought it to you guys for service."[/quote]

What year/model ranger do you have? I've got an 800 and Adams motorsports was able to replace the boots on my steering without replacing the full assembly. But I wouldn't recommend Adams for other reasons.
[/quote]


PM me about Adams please. I bought my Mule and Polaris from them, was about to take the Mule in for some service...is there something I should know?

Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: strikeu] #3059350
03/05/20 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by strikeu


I don't really think they were trying to gig me - even though I'm sure they would have loved for me to say yes to both of those. I think the piston slap knock, they were just doing some CYA in case I came back and said, "Well I didn't notice this sound until I brought it to you guys for service."


What year/model ranger do you have? I've got an 800 and Adams motorsports was able to replace the boots on my steering without replacing the full assembly. But I wouldn't recommend Adams for other reasons.
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PM me about Adams please. I bought my Mule and Polaris from them, was about to take the Mule in for some service...is there something I should know?[/quote]
I never had any issues with Adam's when I used them. I'm just closer to troy.


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059360
03/05/20 07:43 PM
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Isn't the conspiracy theory nut job on the radio show "clearing the air" the same man as the owner of Adams?

That's enough reason to not go there for anything!


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059363
03/05/20 07:45 PM
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I wouldn't let that keep me from buying a quality machine from him. I don t buy that either but he likes it.


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059384
03/05/20 08:10 PM
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I have a 800 2013 ranger here at my place I’m working on now ... if it’s not smoking or getting worse I would run it for a while


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059484
03/05/20 09:08 PM
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Keep running it unless its starts smoking an using oil. Piston slap is where piston is worn from dirty air filter or dirt getting into engine. Skirt of piston wears out an starts slapping cyclinder walls every time it fires . Only problem is if it wears enough it will break off an damage rest of engine. Had that happen in two strokes. Yours probably never do because it don t turn too many rpms. Don t take 3 hrs to down either. Maybe hr an most time have install new gaskets to put back together . Another thing if it wears out so bad an piston breaks it will damage the plating on cyclinder wall. Most all newer atvs an bike have a nikisil planting to keep it from wearing out . Piston always wears out before cyclinder. I would just ride an not worry bout all that . Piston slap sounds just like a valve rattling . Hard tell difference. Like someone else said could be slack in timing chain also. I have a cr250 an the piston starts slapping bout 20 hrs an i keep filter clean.I have put 100 hrs on it before i rebuild it. Even if piston is slapping just ride it as long its not smoking an using oil.


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059502
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by jmudler
can you describe the problem you are having?


Well, I'm not having any problems with the engine that I'm aware of, or at least I didn't notice it sounding bad. I took it in b/c I knew there was an axle and bearing issue in the front end and also go ahead and get everything serviced and I asked them to give it a "check up" since it was new to me. Otherwise, it's been running just fine.


I wouldnt touch the engine until performance or audible issues. Go get your ranger and say thanks but no thanks.


This is Ward's in Troy, AL. Yeah, that's what I told them just making sure I wasn't going to regret it later, it's my first ranger so wasn't sure if that was some common issue that's better addressed early. Another ridiculous thing is I asked them to quote on changing the boots on the steering guess it's the pinion and they said Polaris didn't just sell the boots or replace the boots, they had to do the whole steering and rack and pinion and it was going to be $600 or something. I told them no thanks, that bare knuckle is just fine.

I don't really think they were trying to gig me - even though I'm sure they would have loved for me to say yes to both of those. I think the piston slap knock, they were just doing some CYA in case I came back and said, "Well I didn't notice this sound until I brought it to you guys for service."


I've replaced multiple torn boots. That's a bunch of bullhockeypucks.


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Re: Polaris Ranger piston slap [Re: hallb] #3059683
03/05/20 11:40 PM
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If its using oil maybe even smoking then its worn out. Best to get rid of it if thats the case. I would never rebuild an atv engine. Money pit. The wrist pins can cause piston slap too not just rings. Stroker motors are a good example of that. Id sell it and buy another before it gets worse. The oil usage will tell you if its slapping.

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