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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3025347
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Gonna try and kill a couple of old Barron does at the lease the next few weekends


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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: Turkey_neck] #3025372
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Originally Posted by Turkey_neck
Gonna try and kill a couple of old Barron does at the lease the next few weekends


What exactly does an old barron doe look like.


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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3025375
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Old barren does don’t actually exist. Or I guess I should say age is not considered to be a contributing factor. Does continue to breed until death in the wild unless some other factor prevents them from conceiving.

Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3025377
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Idk if it’s a Barron doe but a few of these need a dirt nap [Linked Image]


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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: Mbrock] #3025400
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Old barren does don’t actually exist. Or I guess I should say age is not considered to be a contributing factor. Does continue to breed until death in the wild unless some other factor prevents them from conceiving.

We have one that we named tongue that hasn’t had fawns in two years for sure. Her tongue always hangs out and her hair is always scruffy looks like a old whore that’s been rode hard and put up wet. I should have killed her opening weekend but Stephen was waiting on our big bucks 150 yds away. Too bad he didn’t shoot him that afternoon but saw him. She’s a target and any older does without fawns. The ones that always have fawns we don’t shoot rather have good mammas around.


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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3025410
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Turkey neck. I believe I have read you own land by where you live. Have you noticed any difference or increase in bucks late season from feeding heavy, due to lack of food late in the year. Or anyone else think this may be a factor that is feeding post rut.

Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3025503
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We have fed the last 4-5 years at the house and we may get a few extra buck pics in early February. Our biggest jump is mid/late February after the neighbors quit feeding. I normally feed until spring green up then lay off and concentrate on summer plots. This year I’m hoping they will take to a gravity feeder I’ve had out and feed them all year also.


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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3025609
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Well its give or take the way I see it, you may not want to shoot one early season in case it has a fawn hanging out near by and then you may not want to shoot one later in the season that could potentially already been bread. It's different for each spot I hunt though. My personal land I don't shoot any does and strictly wait on mature bucks, but I've got permission to hunt a lady's land that just wants the deer thinned out so I will shoot the first thing I see every time (except a fawn even though its legal now lol)

Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3026002
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Been done here for 5-6 weeks

Start seeing shedding any day. But we need til February 10 Chucky says

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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #3026042
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Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
Been done here for 5-6 weeks

Start seeing shedding any day. But we need til February 10 Chucky says


Every indication is the season is going to be extended another 10 days on the front end of season. Would not be surprised for that to be this coming season. The DCNR has the data to do this, per Chucky.

Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3026044
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I’d say extend it for us up here up front 10-15 days and cut it off Jan 15 for us.


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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3026056
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It would be fine with me if our season didnt start till jan 1 or so.

Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3026088
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I'd like a split season regular bow season then rifle pick up at Christmas break n go thru Feb


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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3026095
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Just run it from Labor Day to Memorial Day that should be plenty for everyone.


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Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3026125
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I’m in Winston county and it wouldn’t hurt my feelings in the least if the rifle season ended around January 10th every year. Just give one more week of rifle season on the front end. Keep archery the same to somewhat appease the complainers.

Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3026462
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Years ago here in Mississippi I remember when the season went out January 15 for gun season and bow or primitive weapon was in until the 31st. I remember us killing some good deer back then and every year they extend the season some more. Now it goes out here February 15. Crazy how things change over the years. Wonder when they are gonna extend or shorten the season again

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Originally Posted by johndeere5036


Years ago here in Mississippi I remember when the season went out January 15 for gun season and bow or primitive weapon was in until the 31st. I remember us killing some good deer back then and every year they extend the season some more. Now it goes out here February 15. Crazy how things change over the years. Wonder when they are gonna extend or shorten the season again


Extending here is about a sure bet. In my opinion that will be a mistake but time will tell. The facts are we have extended season already into Feb, legalized baiting, and OKed shooting spotted fawns. All those are for one reason: to reduce deer population in Alabama. Not one of those is about growing the population or even maintaining. I feel extending season even more would be counter productive. The average to less hard core hunters will get burned out with so much time to hunt and will stop hunting all together. This will be less hunters and less deer killed at a time when reducing deer numbers seems to be the goal by looking at other changes.

Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: centralala] #3026637
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Originally Posted by johndeere5036


Years ago here in Mississippi I remember when the season went out January 15 for gun season and bow or primitive weapon was in until the 31st. I remember us killing some good deer back then and every year they extend the season some more. Now it goes out here February 15. Crazy how things change over the years. Wonder when they are gonna extend or shorten the season again


Extending here is about a sure bet. In my opinion that will be a mistake but time will tell. The facts are we have extended season already into Feb, legalized baiting, and OKed shooting spotted fawns. All those are for one reason: to reduce deer population in Alabama. Not one of those is about growing the population or even maintaining. I feel extending season even more would be counter productive. The average to less hard core hunters will get burned out with so much time to hunt and will stop hunting all together. This will be less hunters and less deer killed at a time when reducing deer numbers seems to be the goal by looking at other changes.


I hope the don’t extend it because I’m barely getting everything planted and done before the season comes in.

Re: If the rut is done where you hunt [Re: 40Bucks] #3026653
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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by johndeere5036


Years ago here in Mississippi I remember when the season went out January 15 for gun season and bow or primitive weapon was in until the 31st. I remember us killing some good deer back then and every year they extend the season some more. Now it goes out here February 15. Crazy how things change over the years. Wonder when they are gonna extend or shorten the season again


Extending here is about a sure bet. In my opinion that will be a mistake but time will tell. The facts are we have extended season already into Feb, legalized baiting, and OKed shooting spotted fawns. All those are for one reason: to reduce deer population in Alabama. Not one of those is about growing the population or even maintaining.


Established hunting seasons always have been about reducing the population.

They're not designed to make hunters happy. They're designed as a management tool, with hunters being de facto agents of the state to help cull numbers of deer, elk, moose and other species.

Look at states that have banned or limited bear hunting, for example. Florida is a good one. New Jersey is another They keep screaming "management" but have not included hunting as part of it. So their population continues to grow like crazy.

West Virginia used to limit tags for bears. Hunters didn't kill enough. Now you can just buy one and go. Utah has expanded its bear seasons this year.

California banned hunting for mountain lions. Now they have mountain lions snatching 3-year-old kids and coming into neighborhoods. And yet they claim "the government" needs to be doing something. WTF can they do? Not enough.

The charge of state agencies is conservation and management. It's not "to grow more animals for hunters!" and never has been. We're just the means of killing for management for the agencies.


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