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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: NSDQ160] #3023960
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Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by jas60hawk
I am a professional helicopter pilot and instructor pilot at Ft. Rucker. Helicopters are actually very safe and do not crash as often as people think. Look into the number of fatal small airplane crashes vs helicopter crashes. Most accidents involve human error, it doesn’t matter how safe the aircraft if the pilot has a lapse in judgement or gets in over their head often they and other people pay the price.

It is absolutely sad that this has happened and I pray for his family especially if his daughter was onboard.


Don’t you think it’s odd that it’s an S-76? Those are reliable aircraft. If you would have told me a Robinson I wouldn’t be shocked but to hear it was an S-76 leads me to believe that something extraordinary happened


I hadn’t heard it was an S-76. Those are really good helicopters and most are instrumented for instrument flight. Someone mentioned earlier that it was possibly foggy, they could have gone IIMC and/ or gotten SD. That combination of inadvertent followed by spatial-d has killed a lot of people. It is pure speculation at this point on my part but I wouldn’t rule that out. I am guessing by your handle you know a thing or two about helicopters, so you know as much as I do that mechanical failure is very rare.

I have a son that is currently a Night Stalker and know what it means. Thank you for your service.

Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: 257wbymag] #3023961
01/26/20 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I saw that girl on 48 news say that too. Surely she meant 5


The Fire Chief at the news conference also said 9.


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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3023962
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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3023964
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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I saw that girl on 48 news say that too. Surely she meant 5


The Fire Chief at the news conference also said 9.


Thats when I heard it


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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3023969
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The sherrif said in his new conference 9 were listed on the flight plan and they believe 9 are perished.

Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3023970
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Never watched him play. I hope his celebrity doesn’t overshadow those others who lost their life. IMO, the two young girls death is most traumatic.

Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3023974
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NBC just reported altitude of 2300 and helicopter did a hard turn and descended into the mountain


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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3023975
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Reporting 9 dead

Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3023976
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If you are rich enough, you don't have to follow the same rules.

Tragic that his 13 year old daughter and the other people died, but he is no great loss. Just another POS sex criminal. I hope he gets put in the pit with Hitler, Stalin, and Mao and has to service them for the next 100 years.

Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3023982
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I don't know if he was a sex offender or not, It is a sad situation and I feel for all that perished and their families. I don't understad why so many people are so upset and flocking to the staples center. He was a great basketball player but to many people idolize atheletes way more than they should.

Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3023987
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None of these asshat POS news reporters give 30 seconds reporting to the death of an American soldier protecting our way of life.


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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3024003
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Not that my opinion matters, but I'm inclined to think the rape allegations were BS. Too many of these women see the $ signs associated with an athlete and in today's culture, a large portion of the population thinks the woman should be believed no matter what.


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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3024005
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Great ball player terrible human being. Davey Stevie Ray Bill Graham I'll never ride one them death traps.


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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3024014
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I don't know whether he was guilty of the rape allegations or not. At this point, it really does not matter.

What I do know is that no matter whether you are an athlete, a celebrity, a rich man or a pauper, when times like these happen all of that stuff no longer matters. Take away all of that stuff and we are all the same.

His wife, his remaining children, the families of the other 7 victims, all of them are hurting people right now.

It is our duty as Christians to pray that God will comfort them and to help them through such a tragedy.

As for his alleged "sins", God Almighty will be the final judge of that. Not man.


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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: jas60hawk] #3024017
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Originally Posted by jas60hawk

Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by jas60hawk
I am a professional helicopter pilot and instructor pilot at Ft. Rucker. Helicopters are actually very safe and do not crash as often as people think. Look into the number of fatal small airplane crashes vs helicopter crashes. Most accidents involve human error, it doesn’t matter how safe the aircraft if the pilot has a lapse in judgement or gets in over their head often they and other people pay the price.

It is absolutely sad that this has happened and I pray for his family especially if his daughter was onboard.


Don’t you think it’s odd that it’s an S-76? Those are reliable aircraft. If you would have told me a Robinson I wouldn’t be shocked but to hear it was an S-76 leads me to believe that something extraordinary happened


I hadn’t heard it was an S-76. Those are really good helicopters and most are instrumented for instrument flight. Someone mentioned earlier that it was possibly foggy, they could have gone IIMC and/ or gotten SD. That combination of inadvertent followed by spatial-d has killed a lot of people. It is pure speculation at this point on my part but I wouldn’t rule that out. I am guessing by your handle you know a thing or two about helicopters, so you know as much as I do that mechanical failure is very rare.

I have a son that is currently a Night Stalker and know what it means. Thank you for your service.



Most of my knowledge is on the 47s but I’ve been around a few. Good on your son!! I still work with them now on the civilian side and It was an honor to serve

Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: dave260rem!] #3024022
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Originally Posted by dave260rem!
Great ball player terrible human being. Davey Stevie Ray Bill Graham I'll never ride one them death traps.


So; other than the he said/ she said event 17 years ago, what has he done before or after, to be rated a "terrible human being" ??
RIP Kobe; enjoyed watching you play and lead; strength to the family and friends

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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3024049
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Re: Breaking...Kobe Bryant dead in a helicopter crash. [Re: hunterbuck] #3024110
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Dang, by looking at that picture I fear the chopper may have been full of kids, Gigi's teamates going to the basketball camp.

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Just remember guys he was not the only person on there. 8 other human beings lost their life also.


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Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by dave260rem!
Great ball player terrible human being. Davey Stevie Ray Bill Graham I'll never ride one them death traps.


So; other than the he said/ she said event 17 years ago, what has he done before or after, to be rated a "terrible human being" ??
RIP Kobe; enjoyed watching you play and lead; strength to the family and friends

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Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by dave260rem!
Great ball player terrible human being. Davey Stevie Ray Bill Graham I'll never ride one them death traps.


So; other than the he said/ she said event 17 years ago, what has he done before or after, to be rated a "terrible human being" ??
RIP Kobe; enjoyed watching you play and lead; strength to the family and friends

[Linked Image]

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