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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: BamaGuitarDude] #3018860
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Originally Posted by BamaGuitarDude
Originally Posted by Woodsman42
I am looking into getting a semi auto shotgun and not all of them shoot the bigger loads obviously so i was curious about who might use them and if they are worth it?


a former co-worker & i were talking turkey hunting one day, and i knew that he'd killed a bird or two in the past ... when we discussed guns & ammo, i was stunned -- he was using his grandfather's old Browning 12g shotgun w/2 3/4" field loads & no turkey choke tube ...


and a homemade box call, no less


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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: jwalker77] #3018877
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
They definately are not worth the pain. My 12ga patterns better with 3" shells, my son shoots a 20ga with tss, I shot one turkey with mine and one with his last year, ill be taking his from now own, until I get me a 20ga that is.


im not convinced my 20 ga yildiz youth model over under doesn't kick harder with TSS than my Mossberg 12ga with 3.5".

that being said, I only feel it when shooting paper.

never felt a kick with a turkey in front of me

Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3018886
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I don’t even own a 12ga anymore


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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: bama1971] #3019168
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Originally Posted by bama1971
Originally Posted by jwalker77
They definately are not worth the pain. My 12ga patterns better with 3" shells, my son shoots a 20ga with tss, I shot one turkey with mine and one with his last year, ill be taking his from now own, until I get me a 20ga that is.


im not convinced my 20 ga yildiz youth model over under doesn't kick harder with TSS than my Mossberg 12ga with 3.5".

that being said, I only feel it when shooting paper.

never felt a kick with a turkey in front of me


Ive yet to shoot a turkey but i have never felt recoil when shooting a deer.

Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3019195
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Originally Posted by Woodsman42
Originally Posted by bama1971
Originally Posted by jwalker77
They definately are not worth the pain. My 12ga patterns better with 3" shells, my son shoots a 20ga with tss, I shot one turkey with mine and one with his last year, ill be taking his from now own, until I get me a 20ga that is.


im not convinced my 20 ga yildiz youth model over under doesn't kick harder with TSS than my Mossberg 12ga with 3.5".

that being said, I only feel it when shooting paper.

never felt a kick with a turkey in front of me


Ive yet to shoot a turkey but i have never felt recoil when shooting a deer.


One thing to think about. You can always shoot 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells out of a 3.5 gun. You can't shoot 3.5 out of a 3.

Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3019214
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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Semo] #3019251
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Originally Posted by Semo
Originally Posted by Woodsman42
Originally Posted by bama1971
Originally Posted by jwalker77
They definately are not worth the pain. My 12ga patterns better with 3" shells, my son shoots a 20ga with tss, I shot one turkey with mine and one with his last year, ill be taking his from now own, until I get me a 20ga that is.


im not convinced my 20 ga yildiz youth model over under doesn't kick harder with TSS than my Mossberg 12ga with 3.5".

that being said, I only feel it when shooting paper.

never felt a kick with a turkey in front of me


Ive yet to shoot a turkey but i have never felt recoil when shooting a deer.


One thing to think about. You can always shoot 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells out of a 3.5 gun. You can't shoot 3.5 out of a 3.


This

Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3019465
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As a turkey hunter that has been victim of Big Eye, I will ask. What is the downside of the extra pellets. If weight was an issue then I would simply diet and carry less weight on my fat butt. If recoil is an issue then I understand but have never felt the recoil while shooting at a bird. My turkey hunting goal has always been to shoot them with their beady eye touching the end of my barrel. In the real world a single pellet can be the difference between turkey nuggets and a pile of feathers. I shoot 3 1/2 inch shells because they don't make 4 inch shells.

Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Fishduck] #3019492
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Originally Posted by Fishduck
As a turkey hunter that has been victim of Big Eye, I will ask. What is the downside of the extra pellets. If weight was an issue then I would simply diet and carry less weight on my fat butt. If recoil is an issue then I understand but have never felt the recoil while shooting at a bird. My turkey hunting goal has always been to shoot them with their beady eye touching the end of my barrel. In the real world a single pellet can be the difference between turkey nuggets and a pile of feathers. I shoot 3 1/2 inch shells because they don't make 4 inch shells.

Like I posted earlier, in my case it was because the 3" shells threw a better, more even pattern than the same shell in 3.5".


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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3019498
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Had a guy tell me one time, the only reason he shot a 3.5 was because they did not make a 4 grin


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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3019577
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I love having a 3.5 kick the hell out of me!!

I tried some TSS, and they sucked out of my 12 and my sons 20. I’m sticking with 3.5 Longbeards in my 12 using a Rhino .660. My son’s 20 shoots the 3” longbeards with a Carlson choke great. Mine will reach out to around 65. His is deadly to at least 50.

Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: cgardner] #3019608
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Originally Posted by cgardner
I love having a 3.5 kick the hell out of me!!

I tried some TSS, and they sucked out of my 12 and my sons 20. I’m sticking with 3.5 Longbeards in my 12 using a Rhino .660. My son’s 20 shoots the 3” longbeards with a Carlson choke great. Mine will reach out to around 65. His is deadly to at least 50.

That’s crazy, hand loaded or factory loaded TSS? I haven’t been using it long but my 20 with a 1 5/8 ounce of TSS 9’s is way better than the 3 1/2” longbeard 6’s and I thought they were pretty awesome



Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3019759
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Iv never seen the word sucked and tss in the same sentence until now

Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: cgardner] #3020082
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Originally Posted by cgardner
I love having a 3.5 kick the hell out of me!!

I tried some TSS, and they sucked out of my 12 and my sons 20. I’m sticking with 3.5 Longbeards in my 12 using a Rhino .660. My son’s 20 shoots the 3” longbeards with a Carlson choke great. Mine will reach out to around 65. His is deadly to at least 50.


Your chokes may have been too tight, TSS needs to "breath" a little to maximize the pattern.



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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3020103
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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3020294
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Originally Posted by Woodsman42
Who here uses 3 1/2 and who does not? And why? I am looking into getting a semi auto shotgun and not all of them shoot the bigger loads obviously so i was curious about who might use them and if they are worth it?

Thanks for the input guys. Season will be here before we know it.


I still shoot 3.5" shells, I see no reason not too. If so inclined, I could easily kill a turkey at 50 yards with #6 3.5" longbeard xr.

In a semi the 3.5" shells aren't too bad on recoil. I hunted with a Mossberg 835 pump years ago; if I still hunted with that gun I would probably shy away from the 3.5" shells as they just flat hurt to shoot.

As stated above, if you buy a gun that shoots 3.5" it doesn't mean you have to shoot them, but you will have the option to.

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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: Woodsman42] #3020632
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I shoot the 3.5"" Nitro's in a steel blend, but that's only because I don't have any TSS yet. Or a smaller gauge shotgun.


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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: AU_trout_bum] #3020652
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Originally Posted by AU_trout_bum
I shoot the 3.5"" Nitro's in a steel blend, but that's only because I don't have any TSS yet. Or a smaller gauge shotgun.
Steel shot for a turkey? You serious, Clark?


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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: JUGHEAD] #3021191
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Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
Originally Posted by AU_trout_bum
I shoot the 3.5"" Nitro's in a steel blend, but that's only because I don't have any TSS yet. Or a smaller gauge shotgun.
Steel shot for a turkey? You serious, Clark?


Sorry, it's non-lead. Tungsten I think?


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Re: Are 3 1/2 inch shells worth it? [Re: AU_trout_bum] #3021281
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Originally Posted by AU_trout_bum
Originally Posted by JUGHEAD
Originally Posted by AU_trout_bum
I shoot the 3.5"" Nitro's in a steel blend, but that's only because I don't have any TSS yet. Or a smaller gauge shotgun.
Steel shot for a turkey? You serious, Clark?


Sorry, it's non-lead. Tungsten I think?


Nitro brand tungsten or Remington Nitros? I believe Nitro brand is loaded with TSS

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