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If you only had 2 #3019908
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I am seriously considering selling most all of my hunting rifles and condensing them down to 2 high(er) end or custom rifles with really good glass vs most of the cheaper rifles I have now with mediocre glass. The debate is what calibers do I want. I think 1 will be a 300 Win or Wby or maybe a 338 Win, the other is where I am struggling to make a choice. I have never been let down by my 30-06 or 308 but there are so many other good choices out there like 7-08, 208AI, 6.5-06, 300WSM, etc. So, what would be your choice for the second rifle chambering given the following guidelines:

Typical Alabama whitetail woods, river bottoms and the mountains of NE Alabama with most shots less that 300 yards with the possibility of a midwest trip some day. This will be my primary hunting rifle. If I ever get to go WEST and hunt I would most likely take the 300 or 338.
No restrictions on action length, I have no preference.
No 270 win
Nothing that is an odd ball caliber.
Must have a good selection of factory available ammo, although I do reload I don't want to be tied down to it.
Must perform well out of no longer than a 22" barrel, preferably a 20".

The harder choice after this will be what rifle(s) to buy. Bergara, Kimber, Christensen, Cooper, Montana or custom built.

What are yall's thoughts?

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3019918
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Well you know mine. Or at least you should lol. That being said...

Keep the 30-06 for deer hunting and sentimental reasons.
If you still want a whitetail rifle, get you a 308 bergara ridge.

Get you a 300 win in maybe a Tikka? Something that is light so if you had to carry it out west if you got the opportunity it would be fine. And you know me, i like stainless.

If you wanted you could still carry the 300 to kill a rutted up buck and the 308 wouldn't make doe meat useless.

The Tikka/Bergara give you a 1 MOA guarantee and are real nice and should give you room in the budget for a real nice scope.

My .02.

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300 win short mag and 308 given your barrel


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3019921
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3019927
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WIley I would still have a few in the safe that ain't leaving. This would just narrow the "main" rifles down to 2 that would be primaries and thin the heard of what doesn't get used often or at all. Plus, if history tells me anything the safe would just magically fill back up over time anyways.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3019931
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338 Win Mag and 25-06.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3019940
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30-06 and 7 mag

If you didn’t say an odd round I’d go with a 6.5 (whatever you want to add after) I’d go PRC. and a magnum round

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3019949
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I've got a shucks ton of rifles in a bunch of different calibers. 90% of the time I carry one of two. Winchester model 70 in .300 Win mag when I'm on the clear cuts, Remington model seven in 7mm.08 for everything else.

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3019983
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7mm08 would do anything i wanted to for white tail, hogs, varmits.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3019992
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Not 2 but, I wouldn't give up my 7mm mag.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: Cactus_buck] #3020017
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Originally Posted by Cactus_buck
30-06 and 7 mag

If you didn’t say an odd round I’d go with a 6.5 (whatever you want to add after) I’d go PRC. and a magnum round


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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Gunwerks for your custom piece. Cause you say 22 inch barrel go with the .260 ...or 7-08.


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.25-06
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: 257wbymag] #3020047
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
6.5 PRC
25-06.
280 ackley

Hard to go wrong with that. I’d have to add 243.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020051
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I wouldn't have a 300 magnum of any variety with less than a 24" barrel. Too much muzzle blast and you start to lose velocity rapidly with every in you cut.

A 338 win mag would definitely be one of my choices 😀 especially if you want to go west for bigger critters. Works great on little Alabama whitetais also at the ranges you mentioned, and beyond. 👍👍

A 6.5 PRC would be a great choice for reaching way out there for deer if you ever had a notion to do such things. If you ever go to Kansas or somewhere similar you will appreciate a flat shooting gun with high BC bullets to resist wind drift.

Also, the idea of only 2 rifles is ludicrous....

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I’m thinking of getting a .308. Top it with a Meopta with a 50mm objective, maybe a 56.
But I’m really enjoying the 243 I’ve hunted with this season.

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020156
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The magnum wether it be a 300 or 338 will definitely be a 26" barrel, any shorter is a waste in my opinion.

How does the 6.5 PRC, the 6.5-06 and the 280AI compare and what do they offer over the ol faithful 30-06 with 165s? The idea of high BC bullets from either of the previous 3 really shines out west in the wind but I don't know that they offer any advantage here where 90% of my hunting will be less that 300 yards. Also I don't know this to be absolute truth but I've heard and read that the high BC bullets don't kill as well (fast) as the old standby lower BC bullets from traditional cartridges because of the higher sectional density and the tendiacy to penetrate so well. Any truth to that? Seems that that may be why the 25-06 and 257Wby are such stone cold killers as the 25 cal bullets don't have great BC or SD. The same for cup and core 150s from a -06 or 308.

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The 3006 & 308 will offer more selections in bullets than anything else and both will kill anything in North America


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Seems like 3 would be best.


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.308 Sako with a 50mm Zeiss Conquest for home and a Weatherby Mk V in .300 Weatherby magnum with a similar scope, maybe a 3-12 x 56 for out west. Both in stainless with synthetic stocks.

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I would get a 20" Model 7 HS Precision in 7mm-08.

The other one would be a .300 WBY Mark V


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300 wm and either a 7mm-08 or 280ai IF I had to choose

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Originally Posted by willdo22
Seems like 3 would be best.

What would be your 3 and what would be the reasoning or purposes?

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Originally Posted by 1955Retiree
Originally Posted by Cactus_buck
30-06 and 7 mag

If you didn’t say an odd round I’d go with a 6.5 (whatever you want to add after) I’d go PRC. and a magnum round


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

IMO those are too close in ballistics,

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300 win short mag and 308 given your barrel


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Originally Posted by just_an_illusion
The magnum wether it be a 300 or 338 will definitely be a 26" barrel, any shorter is a waste in my opinion.

How does the 6.5 PRC, the 6.5-06 and the 280AI compare and what do they offer over the ol faithful 30-06 with 165s? The idea of high BC bullets from either of the previous 3 really shines out west in the wind but I don't know that they offer any advantage here where 90% of my hunting will be less that 300 yards. Also I don't know this to be absolute truth but I've heard and read that the high BC bullets don't kill as well (fast) as the old standby lower BC bullets from traditional cartridges because of the higher sectional density and the tendiacy to penetrate so well. Any truth to that? Seems that that may be why the 25-06 and 257Wby are such stone cold killers as the 25 cal bullets don't have great BC or SD. The same for cup and core 150s from a -06 or 308.

IMHO, 24" barrels are the way to go unless it's a big magnum like a 300 Weatherby, 300 RUM or similar, where the extra barrel length is good. Absolutely no need for a 26" barrel on a 338 win mag, and 24" is just right for a 300 WSM or 300 winny. I've found barrels over 24" start to be a PITA to handle in the woods or a shootin house. If you add a brake its 28" and would only use a gun like that for long range shooting from a house.

6.5 PRC with a 143 ELD X will flat out kill deer way out there. Buddy of mine dropped a doe in her tracks at 820 yards last week with that combo, in a 10 MPH cross wind. Said he allowed for about a foot of wind drift and didn't need that much.


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Originally Posted by willdo22
Seems like 30 would be best.

FIFY.


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Now the rub 7 mag/300? Neither is take AU's 22 inch .338 I can't varmint hunt but from Coyotes up I'm good. Scopes? 4x16 3x12 maybe a red dot on the Whelen for hogs bear etc.


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I bought a 7 mag and a 7mm-08. In my opinion anything in north America can be killed with one of those two.

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There will be a 223, 243 and a 30-06 in the safe regardless. Seems it'd be hard to beat a 308win and a 300wby combo. Maybe only by adding a fast, flat something in the middle like a 6.5 job or maybe even a 257Wby.

Anybody got anything for what I posted earlier about high BC bullets vs low BC bullets killing faster at closer ranges?

Keep the ideas rolling guys, who knows, there may be someone else we help along the way.

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If I could only have 2 it would be my .260 and .280

If I could have 3 it’d be .243, 7-08 and 300win

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Personally I have no use for a 243 for deer hunting. That's just a personal thing so don't get y'alls drawers all waded up. I'll always have one because I inherated it, but it won't get hunted with much at all.

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020500
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I have a bunch but would NEVER part with the 7mag. For hunting purposes it’ll do about anything I need it to do in all 50 states (where legal).

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020573
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020624
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Originally Posted by just_an_illusion
There will be a 223, 243 and a 30-06 in the safe regardless. Seems it'd be hard to beat a 308win and a 300wby combo. Maybe only by adding a fast, flat something in the middle like a 6.5 job or maybe even a 257Wby.

Anybody got anything for what I posted earlier about high BC bullets vs low BC bullets killing faster at closer ranges?

Keep the ideas rolling guys, who knows, there may be someone else we help along the way.

BC won't matter, but bullet construction does. Bullets are designed to perform within a certain velocity range. To make a bullet perform at long range, or lower velocity, it has to be more fragile, which means more fragmentation at close range or high velocity. Tougher bullets hold together at closer ranges or higher velocity but may fail to expand at long range or low velocity.

Match bullet selection to your quarry and anticipated range. Despite what some folks say, Alabama deer ain't tough to kill and a rapidly expanding bullet just behind the shoulder will kill it fast.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020698
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If 2 and only 2 period then .22 and 30-06. It’s like night and day. smile

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: CatHeadBiscuit] #3020737
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Originally Posted by CatHeadBiscuit
If 2 and only 2 period then .22 and 30-06. It’s like night and day. smile

You obviously didn't read the opening post or any of my subsequent post either. Just running that post count up 🙄

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020763
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If a fella had to narrow it down to any less than 29 or 30 I just don’t know what I would do. BUT theoretically speaking, IF I could only be buried with 2 rifles...one would be a Weatherby MarkV 6-lug carbine chambered in 7-08 strapped into a McMillan Sako Classic stock and the other would be a Kimber Montana w/ a Brux #3 fluted barrel chambered in .30-06 with a 1-10” twist.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: k bush] #3020907
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Originally Posted by k bush
338 Win Mag and 25-06.




This would be my choice as well . I can go heavy with the 338 and handle most anything in NA and beyond or light and hunt Deer at home . The 25-06 can go light for varmits or heavy for Deer and most lower 48 stuff .


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I think ill keep mine, and probably get more, I have a problem.

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My Dad's two .257's. One is a Roberts. I think it has his old Unertl scope on it.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020978
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I would think 300win mag and a 308 should pretty well have you covered. Since you reload, it is nice to have 2 guns that both use .308 projectiles. 300 winmag is good for everything in North America and more and is pretty flat shooting. I would probably have the win mag custom built or maybe a Christensen Arms Ridgeline titanium. For the 308 I would get something nice and lite with a 20" or 18” carbon wrapped barrel also maybe in CA Ridgeline titanium or custom. Can handload the 308 full power or even reduced power loads or even subsonic for whatever purpose you need. To mix things up even more I would maybe even get the 308 in a BLR levergun. I have a soft spot for lever guns. I would even go as far as to say 300 win mag and 30-30. grin One new gun with new technology and one just classic, fast handling, and proven lever gun. Both using .308 projo's.

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: jb20] #3021287
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Originally Posted by jb20
300 win short mag and 308 given your barrel


This is my exact go to. I've used my 300WSM with a 22" barrel shooting 180gr federal trophy bonded tip bullets on everything from spring buck to zebra in Africa to whitetails, bear, elk and moose here. It has never let me down. It is overkill for deer but it still drops them

for my deer/hog hunting here I've been using a 18" barreled Ruger American lately and liking it.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3021720
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3022352
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I did the exact thing you’re talking about doing. I trimmed down to two do all rifles with great dependable glass. A 7mm-08 and a .280AI


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3022402
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3022419
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I will preface this by saying I would rather be dead or turn gay than be limited to 2 rifles. Having said that, for deer I could narrow it down to 3.

.300 win or wby.
.450 marlin or .45-70
.308 or .7-08

I am sorry, I know that is a lot.

I feel nauseous now and very depressed. I am going to go snort a line of Lexapro and have diarrhea now!


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Originally Posted by Big Bore
I will preface this by saying I would rather be dead or turn gay than be limited to 2 rifles. Having said that, for deer I could narrow it down to 3.

.300 win or wby.
.450 marlin or .45-70
.308 or .7-08

I am sorry, I know that is a lot.

I feel nauseous now and very depressed. I am going to go snort a line of Lexapro and have diarrhea now!

rofl beers


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: Big Bore] #3022427
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Originally Posted by Big Bore
I will preface this by saying I would rather be dead or turn gay than be limited to 2 rifles. Having said that, for deer I could narrow it down to 3.

.300 win or wby.
.450 marlin or .45-70
.308 or .7-08

I am sorry, I know that is a lot.

I feel nauseous now and very depressed. I am going to go snort a line of Lexapro and have diarrhea now!

No way I could cut it back to just two. I keep at least 3 in my truck at all times during the season, sometimes more.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: fladeerhntr] #3022775
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Originally Posted by fladeerhntr
I bought a 7 mag and a 7mm-08. In my opinion anything in north America can be killed with one of those two.



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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: AU338MAG] #3022814
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG

No way I could cut it back to just two. I keep at least 3 in my truck at all times during the season, sometimes more.


I am glad I am not the only one who has that problem. Sometimes my hardest choice in hunting is what gun to use. laugh

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023062
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If I were to pick two of my current rifles; it would my MK V , 7mm-08 and my B78, .257 Wby mag. If I felt I need something bigger; I would take my MK V .270WBY mag over the .257.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023094
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338-06 and 308 would be the two for me.out if what you listed I'd go 308 and 300win mag.tikka 308 maybe kimber and a bergara 300 win mag. would be sweet!

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023161
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So we (I) pretty much got the Bean field/out west/long range caliber nailed down to a 300. Now let's make this a little more interesting. Possiby 3 guns max.

Mountain rifle: short, light, quick handling, smooth as a baby's ass, less than 200 yards max shot opportunity. Usually no more than 125ish. What caliber for in the shoulder shots, knockem flat on their ass, no tracking required, BIG exit holes. Again action length and recoil don't matter.

308
30-06
300wsm
358win
35whelen
450/45-70
??????

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023165
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023220
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I'm still saying .25-06 or .260 Rem. Never had one go more than 25-30 yards with either, and they usually die right there, and I have never recovered a bullet. Always went all the way through.

If you think you need more horsepower than that, then the .264 Win Mag or 6.5 PRC should be more than enough.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023269
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.280 Ackley is also a serious deer killer.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023328
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023336
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A .308 bergara ridge makes a pretty decent mountain rifle from my experience. It can be a wee bit heavy though due to the barrell contour. 😀

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023356
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023360
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Yea your Bergara definately has a little heft to it. I'm thinking something along the lines of a Mdl 7 in 358win would be a sweet hard hitting mountain gun.

2 BIG holes are nice when you are hunting these thick rocky mountains.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023526
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Originally Posted by just_an_illusion
So we (I) pretty much got the Bean field/out west/long range caliber nailed down to a 300. Now let's make this a little more interesting. Possiby 3 guns max.

Mountain rifle: short, light, quick handling, smooth as a baby's ass, less than 200 yards max shot opportunity. Usually no more than 125ish. What caliber for in the shoulder shots, knockem flat on their ass, no tracking required, BIG exit holes. Again action length and recoil don't matter.
308
30-06
300wsm
358win
35whelen
450/45-70
??????


Marlin lever action. In 35 Remington, 308 marlin 444 marlin 45 70

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023609
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My pick for a short/light sub 200 yard gun would be one of those two. Kimber Montana cut back to 20in in 338fed or 358win or a T/C contender carbine in either of the two calibers

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3023619
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I was looking around online and seen where TC offers the Encore Pro Hunter in a 20" barreled 460S&W. That would shonuff be a short, light gun and a 200gr 45cal bullet traveling about 2700 fps should be like Thors hammer inside 200 yards and would probably produce massive holes. The 450 Marlin dont look bad for a sub 200 yard hammer either.

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3024966
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any 30 cal of your choice will kill anything in north america. plus seem easy to find ammo. most gas stations at my house carry all the popular 30 cal chambers. 308 medium/large game and a 223 for small game varmints would be my 2 if I could only have 2. plus a 22lr and a good 12 gauge. Ive thought about this subject before and often discuss first time rifle purchases with coworkers getting into shooting that's looking for a do it all rifle. my xbolt 308 with a 20" barrel is perfect for me. can hit them longer shots and short enough to not beat the walls off a shooting house setting up to shoot. just my .02

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3033015
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