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Heartworms question
#3004742
01/06/20 05:23 PM
01/06/20 05:23 PM
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My cur had a litter of pups early november. She usually gets real wormy during weining so I have to keep a close eye on her. Well, I wormed her with happy jack, which is what I've always used, as soon as she whelped. I wormed again early december. She put weight on for a week or so then she started looking wormy again. I sold her to a fella with the agreement that if she tested positive for heart worms at his vet, we'd call the deal off. She did test positive and I have an appt with my vet tomorrow.
My question is, if a dog has other worms, will it show up as positive on the heart worm test?
She was wormed 2 days before the test and has already started looking better a week later. I have doubled up her food as well, which is a high fat/protein content.
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: bowtarist]
#3005695
01/07/20 02:47 PM
01/07/20 02:47 PM
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Cuz-Pat
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Heartworm test is a blood test. It only shows positive or negative to heartworms. For all other type parasitic infections you need a fecal examination done on her. Did you have her on heartworm preventative meds?
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: bowtarist]
#3007091
01/08/20 08:49 PM
01/08/20 08:49 PM
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Ryano
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Man I hate to hear that Bowtarist. Thankfully I've never dealt with heart worms so I don't have any advice. I have always heard if you kill the heart worms the dog will not make it, but that could easily be a myth. I hope a vet can help you get her fixed up.
Last edited by Ryano; 01/08/20 08:50 PM.
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3007349
01/09/20 07:47 AM
01/09/20 07:47 AM
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Heartworm test is a blood test. It only shows positive or negative to heartworms. For all other type parasitic infections you need a fecal examination done on her. Did you have her on heartworm preventative meds?
I did not. I knew heart worms were a bad deal but I didn't know anything else about them. I took her to the vet Tuesday. He started her on some pills to prep her for the next round of treatment. He said he could xray her and see how many she had, but judging from her appearance and energy level at the office, he would say she didnt have many. He see's no reason why she won't pull thru and that the treatment has come along way from what it used to be as far as the dog dying. He said he rarely has an issue anymore. The worst time for it will be around the 2 week mark after the shots. She has to stay in a small kennel for 4 weeks to prevent any clots from dislodging. That's gonna be hell for us. She hates kennels and has chewed her way out of everyone of them that I've put her in. I have to keep her on a steel cable.
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: BayedUp]
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01/10/20 12:47 PM
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Ivermectin is good cheap way to prevent heart and some digestive system worms. I start my dogs on ivermectin at 6months old and give them a dose every 3 months. Don’t give it to a older dog unless you have had it tested and results were negative for heart worms. The dosage is 1cc per 100lbs. All of my dogs except the pups are roughly 50lbs so I just give them all 1/2 a cc straight down their mouth every 3 months and the 2 months in between I worm them with Panacur or Valbazen for digestive system worms. Is that Ivermectin a liquid ? I got some equine wormer once, I don't remember the name, that was a paste.
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: bowtarist]
#3008724
01/10/20 01:56 PM
01/10/20 01:56 PM
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BayedUp
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Ivermectin is good cheap way to prevent heart and some digestive system worms. I start my dogs on ivermectin at 6months old and give them a dose every 3 months. Don’t give it to a older dog unless you have had it tested and results were negative for heart worms. The dosage is 1cc per 100lbs. All of my dogs except the pups are roughly 50lbs so I just give them all 1/2 a cc straight down their mouth every 3 months and the 2 months in between I worm them with Panacur or Valbazen for digestive system worms. Is that Ivermectin a liquid ? I got some equine wormer once, I don't remember the name, that was a paste. Yes its a liquid injection that is for cows and swine but works good on dogs also. You can inject it under the skin on the neck or squirt it down the mouth. A 25ml bottle will treat 50 dogs that weigh 50 pounds.
Last edited by BayedUp; 01/10/20 01:59 PM.
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: bowtarist]
#3009307
01/11/20 12:29 AM
01/11/20 12:29 AM
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doekiller
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Ivermectin is good cheap way to prevent heart and some digestive system worms. I start my dogs on ivermectin at 6months old and give them a dose every 3 months. Don’t give it to a older dog unless you have had it tested and results were negative for heart worms. The dosage is 1cc per 100lbs. All of my dogs except the pups are roughly 50lbs so I just give them all 1/2 a cc straight down their mouth every 3 months and the 2 months in between I worm them with Panacur or Valbazen for digestive system worms. Is that Ivermectin a liquid ? I got some equine wormer once, I don't remember the name, that was a paste. Equine wormer is for intestinal worms. It doesn’t treat heart worms. You need to have your dogs on heart worm medicine.
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: doekiller]
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01/11/20 08:15 AM
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Ivermectin is good cheap way to prevent heart and some digestive system worms. I start my dogs on ivermectin at 6months old and give them a dose every 3 months. Don’t give it to a older dog unless you have had it tested and results were negative for heart worms. The dosage is 1cc per 100lbs. All of my dogs except the pups are roughly 50lbs so I just give them all 1/2 a cc straight down their mouth every 3 months and the 2 months in between I worm them with Panacur or Valbazen for digestive system worms. Is that Ivermectin a liquid ? I got some equine wormer once, I don't remember the name, that was a paste. Equine wormer is for intestinal worms. It doesn’t treat heart worms. You need to have your dogs on heart worm medicine. I never used it. The vet said if she had heartworms and I gave that stuff to her, itd kill her stone dead.
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: bowtarist]
#3010954
01/12/20 02:09 PM
01/12/20 02:09 PM
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Posts: 11,147 Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
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I have never understood the mentality of using a product designed for one species of animal on a different species.
I guess it's all in the name of trying to save a little coin.
I.E. using an injectable bovine product or a paste equine product in dogs.
They aren't designed for dogs and can be detrimental to a dogs health.
Use the right product for your dog.
Sadie is my buddy. No way am I compromising her health over a few dollars.
This isn't directed at you bowtarist in any way.
Just commenting because I know lots of folks who do this.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3011575
01/13/20 12:43 AM
01/13/20 12:43 AM
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Posts: 1,904 Millry, AL
BayedUp
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I have never understood the mentality of using a product designed for one species of animal on a different species.
I guess it's all in the name of trying to save a little coin.
I.E. using an injectable bovine product or a paste equine product in dogs.
They aren't designed for dogs and can be detrimental to a dogs health.
Use the right product for your dog.
Sadie is my buddy. No way am I compromising her health over a few dollars.
This isn't directed at you bowtarist in any way.
Just commenting because I know lots of folks who do this.
The local vets around here use panacur paste (which is a horse wormer) as the main ingredient in the dog wormer they use and sell. They water it down, pour it in a blue bottle, and slap a label on it. All the ingredients are the same. I have had or been around dogs all my life and have never seen any harm or side effects from using any of the wormers above. It’s not about saving money although it does save money. I have done my research and seen first hand over the last 20 years. I wouldn’t give my dogs anything that I thought would harm them. It’s about the same as vaccinating pups. You can buy the shot for $15 and give it yourself if you have done the research and know what you are doing or you can go to the vet and get charged $50-$75 to do the same thing.
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Re: Heartworms question
[Re: bowtarist]
#3030830
02/02/20 08:10 PM
02/02/20 08:10 PM
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Posts: 1,282 lauderdale co
brushwhacker
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Warning bout ivomec .like someone said Don t give to dogs without having them tested first if they are older dog. Also can t give it to herding type dogs like collies . Works great on all other dogs as long as you don t overdose. Very strong drug. Had a dog die from vet overdosing trying to kill heartworms. Not a pretty sight. Last one had heartworms done great . just had keep it confine to cage for month.
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