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Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: GomerPyle] #2978393
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He’s a lead 4’s kinda guy.

Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: sj22] #2978403
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Originally Posted by sj22
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Originally Posted by Festus
You don't "Sight In" a Damn' Shotgun....You PATTERN IT. If it throughs a good pattern with whatever but shoots high/low..left/right...You adjust the Drop or warp the Barrel. And optical sights on a Shotgun....God only mean't those for Deer Slug Hunters!! The Hunting World is Suffering....


Reckon how many turkeys you done missed with that warped barrel Festus? smile

Joe he doesn’t miss with that almighty 10 gauge! Kills em @70 yards all day


The hunting world ain’t the only thing suffering if you toting around a ten gauge piece of railroad iron Festus!!


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Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: BrentM] #2978492
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Originally Posted by BrentM
He’s a lead 4’s kinda guy.


Dang, I was about to make the same exact comment!

Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: Festus] #2978560
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Originally Posted by Festus
You don't "Sight In" a Damn' Shotgun....You PATTERN IT. If it throughs a good pattern with whatever but shoots high/low..left/right...You adjust the Drop or warp the Barrel. And optical sights on a Shotgun....God only mean't those for Deer Slug Hunters!! The Hunting World is Suffering....

Ill do my best not to drop and warp my barrel


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Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: CarbonClimber1] #2982869
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Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by Festus
You don't "Sight In" a Damn' Shotgun....You PATTERN IT. If it throughs a good pattern with whatever but shoots high/low..left/right...You adjust the Drop or warp the Barrel. And optical sights on a Shotgun....God only mean't those for Deer Slug Hunters!! The Hunting World is Suffering....

Ill do my best not to drop and warp my barrel

Well, ol Chuckie is right about one point. You pattern a shotgun.
I really hate to hear someone talking about "sight in" a shotgun. That's not correct.


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Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: Out back] #2982877
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by Festus
You don't "Sight In" a Damn' Shotgun....You PATTERN IT. If it throughs a good pattern with whatever but shoots high/low..left/right...You adjust the Drop or warp the Barrel. And optical sights on a Shotgun....God only mean't those for Deer Slug Hunters!! The Hunting World is Suffering....

Ill do my best not to drop and warp my barrel

Well, ol Chuckie is right about one point. You pattern a shotgun.
I really hate to hear someone talking about "sight in" a shotgun. That's not correct.


This is a dumb debate, but I'll bite....

I realize that you typically pattern a shotgun and sight in a rifle...but many turkey guns have rifle-style sights. Such was the case with my previous turkey gun....I tried several different shells. The best, most even consistent pattern was with Longbeard XR's....but the pattern, as a whole, shot a few inches high. So just like a rifle hitting too high, I adjusted the sights accordingly and now the pattern, as a whole, is dead on.

Explain to me how that doesn't qualify as "sighting in"....type of gun be damned.

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Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: Out back] #2982902
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by Festus
You don't "Sight In" a Damn' Shotgun....You PATTERN IT. If it throughs a good pattern with whatever but shoots high/low..left/right...You adjust the Drop or warp the Barrel. And optical sights on a Shotgun....God only mean't those for Deer Slug Hunters!! The Hunting World is Suffering....

Ill do my best not to drop and warp my barrel

Well, ol Chuckie is right about one point. You pattern a shotgun.
I really hate to hear someone talking about "sight in" a shotgun. That's not correct.

Welp..i know you pattern one...sure do...but i was dialin on a scope..so i was sighting it in..to me. Im a pretty simple feller, and i just call it like i see it..im not a wingshooter...my daddy was..but not me. I can promise you tho, it will be sighting in from now on..just cause it bothers you grin


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Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: GomerPyle] #2983143
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When I started and for years thereafter I never so much as heard of someone either sighting in OR patterning their shotgun. You grabbed some high brass shells, went hunting, and ate turkey. Now I chase numbers, attempt to sight in my shotgun, still eat turkeys, but miss my share of them. What went wrong???

Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: Orion34] #2983657
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Originally Posted by Orion34
When I started and for years thereafter I never so much as heard of someone either sighting in OR patterning their shotgun. You grabbed some high brass shells, went hunting, and ate turkey. Now I chase numbers, attempt to sight in my shotgun, still eat turkeys, but miss my share of them. What went wrong???

Most all of us fell into the same trap. We fell for the marketing BS and thought we needed to latest greatest magnum, super power, ultra shot, go get em, turkey gear.
The best turkey hunter, I ever knew, was a great uncle who hunted in blue liberty overalls and shot a 22 Remington rifle.


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Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: Orion34] #2983975
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Originally Posted by Orion34
When I started and for years thereafter I never so much as heard of someone either sighting in OR patterning their shotgun. You grabbed some high brass shells, went hunting, and ate turkey. Now I chase numbers, attempt to sight in my shotgun, still eat turkeys, but miss my share of them. What went wrong???



I also started turkey hunting in the era when I just grabbed some shells and went hunting. That's what almost everyone did in the 60s. And we killed some turkeys, but I hate to admit that a lot of them got away. We called it missing, but most of them were actually wounded. Some recovered; some didn't.

I still let some get away, but in the past 20 years that number has gone way down. And it's not because I'm a better shot; it's mainly because I have better equipment and have learned to use it better. So I "sight in" my shotgun every season and then I usually get a dead turkey when I pull the trigger. I would really rather just put shells in the gun and go hunting, but wounding a turkey is such an awful experience that I'm willing to do everything I can to avoid it happening.


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Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: GomerPyle] #2984664
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Why not just bore sight it then shoot one or two of the high dollar shells?

Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: jwalker77] #2984707
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Why not just bore sight it then shoot one or two of the high dollar shells?


I’ve tried that myself. I was disappointed with the lack of precision. It will get you “on paper”, but ain’t worth much more. Works fine for rifles. Not so much for a big ole 12 gauge (3/4” diameter) or 20 gauge (2/3” diam.).

Re: POA/POI - TSS vs Bird Shot [Re: Orion34] #2985106
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Originally Posted by Orion34
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Why not just bore sight it then shoot one or two of the high dollar shells?


I’ve tried that myself. I was disappointed with the lack of precision. It will get you “on paper”, but ain’t worth much more. Works fine for rifles. Not so much for a big ole 12 gauge (3/4” diameter) or 20 gauge (2/3” diam.).

How big a piece of paper are you using?

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by Orion34
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Why not just bore sight it then shoot one or two of the high dollar shells?


I’ve tried that myself. I was disappointed with the lack of precision. It will get you “on paper”, but ain’t worth much more. Works fine for rifles. Not so much for a big ole 12 gauge (3/4” diameter) or 20 gauge (2/3” diam.).

How big a piece of paper are you using?


Haha...a 3’x3’ sheet is plenty big. Just don’t expect repeatability/precision when using a laser bore sighter out of a shotgun. Chamber it once, bore sight and repeat. Next time you’re subject to being a foot off. At best it’s “minute of turkey.”

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