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Re: Saban observation [Re: crenshawco] #2973730
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Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by lectrode
You are aware that the clock starts back as soon as the ref puts the ball down


That is correct. But, the play was reviewed, and determined that there was 1 second left on the clock. Per the NCAA rules, the clock is stopped following a review, and there is no runoff. The NFL has a rule in place so that there is a 10 second runoff after reviews. I'm sure Saban will whine enough to get that implemented in the NCAA rule book soon enough

Ya no way they woulbve got the kick off...doesnt matter anyway bama didn't deserve to win


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Originally Posted by burbank
And 3 seconds is for spiking it...not kicking it. All you need is enough time to snap it.


right, but for the clock not to start until the ball is snapped, you have to create a dead ball situation, aka spiking the ball. that is what saben was arguing...they didn't have enough time to create a dead ball situation and due to the runner being inbounds when tackled, the clock starts when the sticks are moved, the ball placed and whistle blown...not when the ball is snapped. it just happened that the review gave AU time to be set.

y'all are as thickheaded as the AU fan I was explaining it to THAT BENIFITED FROM THE REVIEW...he was more worried about why it shouldn't have happened, here, but how saben argued for and got another second a few years back when AU benefitted from it, as well, after their runner went out of bounds stopping the clock in a dead ball situation (clock starts on snap, not refs whistle).

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Re: Saban observation [Re: jb20] #2973827
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Originally Posted by jb20
Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by lectrode
You are aware that the clock starts back as soon as the ref puts the ball down


That is correct. But, the play was reviewed, and determined that there was 1 second left on the clock. Per the NCAA rules, the clock is stopped following a review, and there is no runoff. The NFL has a rule in place so that there is a 10 second runoff after reviews. I'm sure Saban will whine enough to get that implemented in the NCAA rule book soon enough

Ya no way they woulbve got the kick off...doesnt matter anyway bama didn't deserve to win


That is a fact. This is one time where the rules have not kept up with technology and it gave a team a play that resulted in 3 points, that could never have occurred in real time. I think college will adopt the 10 second run off rule, and it should.


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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2973893
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That review to determine to put a second back on the clock is another example of the dumb luck I'm talking about. 99.99999% of the time the clock runs out, OR the ref sets the ball and whistles it live and TICK time's up. But by a 1-in-a-bazillion chance that running play JUST HAPPENED to be exactly close enough for review on the spot, or Gus asked for a review (heck I don't know nor remember), but the point is it had to happen EXACTLY like that for it to work, and there was NO WAY ON EARTH that was on purpose or expected or normal or common. I just get sick and tired of every dang time Bama plays Auburn it's like the friggin' perfect storm of unicorn fantasy crazy bullshux stuff in Auburn's favor. It would be just as unexpected if Nix turned backwards to the line and threw it into the stands, but the ball slips from his hand accidentally, bounces off an Alabama player's foot, into the hands of Whitlow, who then runs it down the field, laterals it to 5 other players, and then they score. THAT!!!!!!! is how it feels a dozen times every Iron Bowl. I repeatedly find myself saying "what are the @#$#@ odds of that happening, again, and again, and again???????"

Auburn flounders around the whole season, every year....Auburn fans want to can Gus all season long, every year.... and then by golly they play Alabama and look like fiercely trained robotic cyborgs destroying everything in sight. Just friggin incredible.

And AGAIN!!!!!... it's absolutely inconceivable that the last play was designed to draw a penalty, the odds of that are way too low. You don't design a play BY FORMATION to "make" the other team get caught with 12 men on the field. You would design that play ONLY, ONLY, ONLY, ONLY, ONLY to either (1) catch Alabama without Waddle back to return, and/or (2) not get the punt blocked. At best you might make them burn/waste a timeout, but that wouldn't even be designed nor expected.


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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2973904
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I gotta be honest, everybody keeps talking about the two kick plays at the end of both halves, but those aren't even what jacked me up the most! That one drive when Nix made THREE passes that were insanely unlikely, insanely out of the norm for Auburns's offense (relative to watching them all year), insanely low odds for a true freshman (who, frankly, I think is just average athletically with an average arm), perfectly defended, and couldn't have been completed if any of those passes were simply a few inches off. Dumb luck, they hadn't shown that ability all year long. Seriously, he was trying to throw one of them away out of bounds!!!!!!!!!!! But instead it gets caught for a first down. Are...you....freakin'....kidding me???????!!!!!! You could've pushed me over with a feather when that play happened.

And look, I'm NOT an Auburn hater, I actually don't mind Auburn much. Now if Tennessee never wins another game it'll tickle me, THAT'S who I hate!..... Point is I'm not saying these things because I'm an Auburn hater.

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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2973911
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Re: Saban observation [Re: ikillbux] #2974020
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Originally Posted by ikillbux
I gotta be honest, everybody keeps talking about the two kick plays at the end of both halves, but those aren't even what jacked me up the most! That one drive when Nix made THREE passes that were insanely unlikely, insanely out of the norm for Auburns's offense (relative to watching them all year), insanely low odds for a true freshman (who, frankly, I think is just average athletically with an average arm), perfectly defended, and couldn't have been completed if any of those passes were simply a few inches off. Dumb luck, they hadn't shown that ability all year long. Seriously, he was trying to throw one of them away out of bounds!!!!!!!!!!! But instead it gets caught for a first down. Are...you....freakin'....kidding me???????!!!!!! You could've pushed me over with a feather when that play happened.

And look, I'm NOT an Auburn hater, I actually don't mind Auburn much. Now if Tennessee never wins another game it'll tickle me, THAT'S who I hate!..... Point is I'm not saying these things because I'm an Auburn hater.


Yeah, me and the family were just looking at one another during that drive and I told them that those were just good plays. I tell u also who isn’t getting enough credit is the Auburn kicker. Dude nailed a 52 yarder that was snapped on the whistle.


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Re: Saban observation [Re: BruteX] #2974037
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Originally Posted by BruteX
Originally Posted by ikillbux
I gotta be honest, everybody keeps talking about the two kick plays at the end of both halves, but those aren't even what jacked me up the most! That one drive when Nix made THREE passes that were insanely unlikely, insanely out of the norm for Auburns's offense (relative to watching them all year), insanely low odds for a true freshman (who, frankly, I think is just average athletically with an average arm), perfectly defended, and couldn't have been completed if any of those passes were simply a few inches off. Dumb luck, they hadn't shown that ability all year long. Seriously, he was trying to throw one of them away out of bounds!!!!!!!!!!! But instead it gets caught for a first down. Are...you....freakin'....kidding me???????!!!!!! You could've pushed me over with a feather when that play happened.

And look, I'm NOT an Auburn hater, I actually don't mind Auburn much. Now if Tennessee never wins another game it'll tickle me, THAT'S who I hate!..... Point is I'm not saying these things because I'm an Auburn hater.


Yeah, me and the family were just looking at one another during that drive and I told them that those were just good plays. I tell u also who isn’t getting enough credit is the Auburn kicker. Dude nailed a 52 yarder that was snapped on the whistle.


Goodness gracious yes, my hat's off to Carlson. Coming in to the game was 4-11 outside of 40 yards, all he does is make 4 (or 5?) 40+ field goals, and it seems like 2 of them were 50+?? But then that's another one of those frustrating things that makes you ask "How the @#$#@ was he 4-11 all year long, then playing Alabama he's 4-4 from looong range???"

"Carlson kicked four field goals and made every one, even though they were all from 43 yards or more. Before the game, he had missed six straight field goals from 40 yards, including three in the Georgia game."


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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2974072
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It was just meant to be...honestly, with the exception of Saban’s first year, I can only think of two instances when Bama just got their but kicked. Clemson last year, and South Carolina in 2010? The rest of the losses that I remember were losses that could have went either way. Saban has 5 NC’s at Bama and has left a couple more on the table that he probably should have won


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Saban would best serve Alabama as recruiting coordinator and leave the coaching to someone more capable. It is apparent his mind is slipping.

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Originally Posted by Rebelman
Saban would best serve Alabama as recruiting coordinator and leave the coaching to someone more capable. It is apparent his mind is slipping.


I know we're prob just kidding about that, but I seriously think age has "mellowed" him....there's just NO way he's still coaching the same as he did 5-10 years ago, the team no longer shows that "make his @$$ quit" mentality. But I also wonder about our recruiting....seems like all the super-stud recruits the last few years look like baby faced kids. Used to be those same players came in looking like 35 year old men with full beards and prison scars. I don't remember an Alabama D line getting pushed off the ball before, but they're simply losing that battle constantly nowadays, and none of them seem to be mad about it.


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We need a few LB's with neck tattoos and drug arrests. These guys on the team today just don't have that killer instinct


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Rolando has the “killer instinct”


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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Rolando has the “killer instinct”


Exactly. We need a few more thugs like him and Reuben Foster


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Originally Posted by Phil_Army
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Rolando has the “killer instinct”


Exactly. We need a few more thugs like him and Reuben Foster


Foster is my favorite defensive player of all time. He was awesome


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Originally Posted by Rebelman
Saban would best serve Alabama as recruiting coordinator and leave the coaching to someone more capable. It is apparent his mind is slipping.


He is a great talent evaluator, recruiter, and master at preparation, but he has never impressed me with his game day skills.


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I remember Ashawn Robinson coming in looking like my dad, legit dude looked older than me and had a full beard.


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Give the Saban a break he is 68 years fresh off hip surgery. If we can get the team and coaches to play with his fire and determination we would beat every team by 20 including LSU. It is time for those guys to step it up imo.

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Originally Posted by outdoors1
Give the Saban a break he is 68 years fresh off hip surgery. If we can get the team and coaches to play with his fire and determination we would beat every team by 20 including LSU. It is time for those guys to step it up imo.


You gotta just let these folks crow for a while.....the most frequently used put down most of them have is to call him a midget because their greatest accomplishment in life comes from genes being passed down to them to allow them to be 6+ feet tall...….

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