|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
112 registered members (sawdust, Jdkprp70, mzzy, tmhrmh1, MCW, 7x57_Mauser, Exhoosier, MarkCollin, capehorn24, Reload410, outdoorguy88, TwoRs, KnightRyder, georgiaboy1970, donia, Joe4majors, BayedUp, Skullworks, Lonster, bamaeyedoc, GoldenEagle, BACK40, Bulls eye, centralala, Richard Cranium, Rolloverdave, icducks, Bigwhitey, MarkAlan, 7PTSPREAD, Semo, BPI, Big Al, fish_blackbass, Skillet, joe sixpack, auman, Remington270, Davyalabama, JBray1985, DGAMBLER, oldbowhunter, eclipse829, Marengo hunter, misfire, Ben Downs, PourIron12, GomerPyle, AU7MM08, BCLC, AUtgr, nate409, zwick, Beak_Buster, wk2hnt, Hunting-231, Kelly_123, Ben2, Showout, Floorman1, Turkey_neck, dagwood, courseup, DoeMaster, Chiller, Tracker, 10 POINT, HBWALKER14, fillmore, BamaBoHunter, blade, coosabuckhunter, BhamFred, turkey247, Ant67, JLMiller, Young20, JohnG, JD_Bowhunter1976, Macon176, Tree Dweller, wareagul, Bowfish, Paint Rock 00, Bows4evr, coonhunterrn, Ol' Skinny, CCC, Jmoore77, BD, BC, hunterturf, Ray_Coon, mayberry51, mossyback, Kdog, Bandit635, Moose24, oldforester, ImThere, CrappieMan, 11 invisible),
615
guests, and 0
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: BigEd]
#2973082
12/02/19 06:17 PM
12/02/19 06:17 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 22,129 blount county alabama
jwalker77
Pumpkin
|
Pumpkin
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 22,129
blount county alabama
|
You Bams are just ignurnt.
Auburn was planning to punt but did not want a return. They left Nix in so Bama would have to leave the D in and they were planning to shift to punt formation and punt with no return man back. Nix did what he does every play, looks over the defensive alignment. What would you do in that situation, just stand there and hope the refs see it. I would have been jumping up and down pointing it out also. There was nothing tricky about it, just good strategy to try and win the game. Admit it, the Bama coaching staff was out coached on that play. NS knows he was out coached that play that's why he acted like he did.
I didnt say it was luck, I was disagreeing with it being called a "bonus". I said they knew what they were doing and it worked. Why does it bother you so bad that auburns coach is known for gimmick plays and trickery. That is reality. It is talked about pretty regularly.
Last edited by jwalker77; 12/02/19 06:20 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: burbank]
#2973105
12/02/19 06:54 PM
12/02/19 06:54 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,582 Moss Creek
Gotcha1
Bright Eyes
|
Bright Eyes
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,582
Moss Creek
|
Walker, come on and give credit where it's due. It's simple, it's MAGIC. Now if he would just disappear.
Matt Brock wears knock-off Crocs.
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: jwalker77]
#2973119
12/02/19 06:59 PM
12/02/19 06:59 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,104 alabama
BigEd
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,104
alabama
|
You Bams are just ignurnt.
Auburn was planning to punt but did not want a return. They left Nix in so Bama would have to leave the D in and they were planning to shift to punt formation and punt with no return man back. Nix did what he does every play, looks over the defensive alignment. What would you do in that situation, just stand there and hope the refs see it. I would have been jumping up and down pointing it out also. There was nothing tricky about it, just good strategy to try and win the game. Admit it, the Bama coaching staff was out coached on that play. NS knows he was out coached that play that's why he acted like he did.
I didnt say it was luck, I was disagreeing with it being called a "bonus". I said they knew what they were doing and it worked. Why does it bother you so bad that auburns coach is known for gimmick plays and trickery. That is reality. It is talked about pretty regularly. Apparently Bamas coaches don't know he's known for trickery cause they were definitely caught with their pants down on that play. I guess you could call it a "trick play" but the intent was not to get the penalty. the intent was to keep the punt returner (Waddle) off the field. Why does it bother you so bad that the entire Bama staff was outsmarted by Gustard?
Last edited by BigEd; 12/02/19 07:27 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: Rebelman]
#2973127
12/02/19 07:04 PM
12/02/19 07:04 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 3,391 Sylvania Alabama
Sandmtnslayer
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 3,391
Sylvania Alabama
|
If Bama didn’t have recency bias, they would barely be a top 25 team. Y’all should be more thankful. Well that be the case the barn would be barely there also
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: Rebelman]
#2973204
12/02/19 08:04 PM
12/02/19 08:04 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 22,129 blount county alabama
jwalker77
Pumpkin
|
Pumpkin
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 22,129
blount county alabama
|
If Bama didn’t have recency bias, they would barely be a top 25 team. Y’all should be more thankful. The opinions of auburn fans are so clouded by their fandom and jealousy that they rarely make sense
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: jwalker77]
#2973256
12/02/19 08:46 PM
12/02/19 08:46 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 25,687 South Alabama
Rebelman
Freak of Nature
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 25,687
South Alabama
|
If Bama didn’t have recency bias, they would barely be a top 25 team. Y’all should be more thankful. The opinions of auburn fans are so clouded by their fandom and jealousy that they rarely make sense Name the on-the-field results that suggests Bama should be a top 25 team. We are waiting.
Last edited by Rebelman; 12/02/19 08:47 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: Rebelman]
#2973268
12/02/19 08:50 PM
12/02/19 08:50 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 3,391 Sylvania Alabama
Sandmtnslayer
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 3,391
Sylvania Alabama
|
If Bama didn’t have recency bias, they would barely be a top 25 team. Y’all should be more thankful. The opinions of auburn fans are so clouded by their fandom and jealousy that they rarely make sense Name the on-the-field results that suggests Bama should be a top 25 team. We are waiting. Name one the barn should be?
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: jwalker77]
#2973318
12/02/19 09:27 PM
12/02/19 09:27 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,730 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,730
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
|
If y'all think Gus/Auburn had any clue whatsoever that the punt formation would confuse Bama into a penalty, or that in any way it was a known/expected/calculated decision, then that's the height of delusional fandom. They were in that formation to avoid a punt block, period.
The amount of sheer dumb luck in that game defies all explanation outside of divine intervention. As an Alabama fan watching that game, it was just frustrating to the N'th degree. Things happening that aren't normal for any team at any time (several times Danielson even commented he'd never seen that)....I commented that it felt like Nix could receive the snap, turn around backwards and heave it into the stands, and an unknown player who hadn't suited up all season would catch it for a score. I can't get that one Auburn drive out of my mind when Nix completed the long pass to Williams (one-handed circus catch with two Bama guys in perfect position), then was LITERALLY THROWING THE BALL AWAY and Hastings flies out of nowhere to catch it (the ball wasn't even gonna make it to the sideline, and 99% of the time those balls get intercepted), then Nix looked like freakin' Tom Brady throwing the TD to Connella (again with perfect coverage). Auburn's offense, especially Nix--an average athletic, white, true freshman--hand't looked that potent all season. Plays like the 100 yard pick-6 that bounced off Harris' back. That @#$@# just don't happen!!!!!! You could watch years of football and never see even one of the dumb luck things happen, yet several of them happened to Auburn in that same game. When you think about it, it's that same story every time they play the Iron Bowl in Auburn. You would be correct if you replace the word "block" in your second sentence with the word "return". It was something they had been working on with the intentions of having the defense in a punt safe formation. There was no intention of drawing the penalty, but that was just a bonus thanks to someone dropping the ball on the other side of the ball. As for the dumb luck comments, I'm amazed that bammer is the only team that when a QB throws it up and a receiver catches it, it is skill, but when another team does it, it is luck. Bo was jumping up and down having a keniption fit yelling to the refs to count them, how can anybody say that was not their intentions? Bo sure thought it was. Why does it matter? They tried some trickery and it worked. Thats what gus is known for. Why try to deny it when it works? A win is a win right? The flag was thrown by then. In the interviews they all said it wasn't designed to draw a penalty, but if it was, that's great. Just another loss you can chalk up to Saban not being so smart in football. Kind of like having a bunch of fatasses on the field for a kick return. What is it about Jordan-Hare that makes him stupid?
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: donia]
#2973597
12/03/19 07:58 AM
12/03/19 07:58 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,339 FL
daylate
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,339
FL
|
he's right about the 1 second complaint....had to explain it a few times to an AU fan, as to why the half should've been over with no kick. this year's second wasn't enough because it was a "live clock" situation - tackled on a running play in-bounds and clock starts on refs whistle, therefore the 3 seconds he's talking about come into play (takes 3 seconds to snap the ball and spike it to stop the clock). a few years back, the second was plenty because the ball carrier ran out of bounds and stopped the clock (dead clock)....clock doesn't start again until the snap of the ball. You are aware that the clock stops when the play results in a first down to move the chains? No? He is not right about the one second.
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: daylate]
#2973612
12/03/19 08:10 AM
12/03/19 08:10 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,730 Hoover
burbank
OP
Booner
|
OP
Booner
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 13,730
Hoover
|
he's right about the 1 second complaint....had to explain it a few times to an AU fan, as to why the half should've been over with no kick. this year's second wasn't enough because it was a "live clock" situation - tackled on a running play in-bounds and clock starts on refs whistle, therefore the 3 seconds he's talking about come into play (takes 3 seconds to snap the ball and spike it to stop the clock). a few years back, the second was plenty because the ball carrier ran out of bounds and stopped the clock (dead clock)....clock doesn't start again until the snap of the ball. You are aware that the clock stops when the play results in a first down to move the chains? No? He is not right about the one second. And 3 seconds is for spiking it...not kicking it. All you need is enough time to snap it.
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: burbank]
#2973637
12/03/19 08:44 AM
12/03/19 08:44 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,095 Anniston, AL
ikillbux
ishootatbux
|
ishootatbux
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,095
Anniston, AL
|
I'll repeat... if you think in your wildest dreams, in Gus' wildest dreams, in ANYBODY'S wildest dreams, they drew that punt up on purpose knowing it would draw a 12 men on the field penalty, then every one of you has supernatural omniscient powers like the Lord. It's DUMB LUCK. Period. And whoever said above that they said in multiple press conferences it was "designed to draw a penalty", oh bullcrap, not one single person has ever said such. It's absolute mythical garbage. That was literally the LEAST LIKELY possibility....jumping offsides on 4th and 4 to give them a first was realistic (I'm pretty sure they were thinking that, heck THAT might've even been the intent of the whole play, perhaps they weren't even gonna punt from that play), but there's ZERO chance any human in the existence of earth would've had a thought it'd purposefully get 12 men on the field. That's an uncommon penalty in ANY case. Again, 101% dumb luck. When it was called, I actually thought Bama's #48 had jumped offsides. Nix pointing out 12 men in no way indicates they expected it, only that it was happening in his view.
And about the "if Bama passes it's skill, but if Auburn passes it's luck", quit twisting it to make a misleading point. Bama is KNOWN for explosive passing, on purpose, they are literally a top 3 team nationwide for two years in passing, with 4 or more 1st round type receivers and what was the likely #1 NFL QB pick in Tua. Heck Mac threw for 350 and 4 TDs!!!!!!! It's what they do! Auburn has struggled on offense ALL YEAR, every freakin' AU fan I know has cried and cussed the whole season about the offensive woes. Even as bad as Bama's defense has been, SO many of AU's plays in that game were dumb luck. Also, when your receiver is wide open running behind the defense, exactly where he's supposed to be on a designed route, and catches it easily in stride. that's skill. But when you simply throw up a 50/50 ball that's caught circus style one handed with TWO defenders in better position than you are, then literally try to throw the ball out of bounds while running for your life and a receiver magically appears from midfield to blaze over and catch it on the sideline, then on the SAME series throws a WILDLY LOW PERCENTAGE pass to Connella (who BTW was covered like gravy and 1" from being out of bounds), you're @#$#@ right that's blind dumb luck. I'm NOT saying they don't count, I'm simply pointing out how frustrating it is when stuff like that happens against you. AU's defender wasn't looking when that ball bounced off Najee for the pick 6, it was DUMB LUCK!!!!!!!!! Again that was the least likely thing to happen in that scenario, in fact that's a HIGH PERCENTAGE successful play for the offense. Does Bama also get some dumb luck plays??....of course, every team does once in a blue moon, but good Lord at how many times those kind of plays happen with Auburn in the Iron Bowl. I always remember the Camback game in Tuscaloosa.... Mark Ingram's fumble rolling 1" from the sideline 20 yards into the endzone for an AU touchback????????????? What are the odds??????? Mark Barron having a torn pec muscle and not telling the coaches, so he's playing safety and let's a wobbling duck pass get caught 2 feet from him while he just watches because he can't raise his arm??????????????? The Kick 6???????????
But I agree that there was going to be another pick-6 at the end of the game if Brown didn't bat that pass down, I gasped at the TV when it happened and told my wife.
Last edited by ikillbux; 12/03/19 08:48 AM.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: burbank]
#2973662
12/03/19 09:06 AM
12/03/19 09:06 AM
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,019 Chelsea
lectrode
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,019
Chelsea
|
I have to hand it to ol Gus, he just flat out smarted Sabins on that last play. However bammer got royally screwed on the play to end the first half. Neither play cost bammer the game tho, that would be extremely chitty defense and no discipline with all the penalties
You haven't been blocked until you've been flock blocked!!!
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: burbank]
#2973675
12/03/19 09:15 AM
12/03/19 09:15 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,187 Tuscumbia
BruteX
6 point
|
6 point
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,187
Tuscumbia
|
If that wasn’t a designed play, why did they line up the punter at wide receiver? Gus has no coaching skills so his whole career is trickery. To his credit it works some of the time. Auburn would be in the discussion for a national title this year if that moron was calling plays.
"We'll the first man comes along that can read Latin is welcome to rob us,...I'd like the chance to shoot at an educated man once in my life" Gus McCrae
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: daylate]
#2973692
12/03/19 09:35 AM
12/03/19 09:35 AM
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,019 Chelsea
lectrode
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,019
Chelsea
|
he's right about the 1 second complaint....had to explain it a few times to an AU fan, as to why the half should've been over with no kick. this year's second wasn't enough because it was a "live clock" situation - tackled on a running play in-bounds and clock starts on refs whistle, therefore the 3 seconds he's talking about come into play (takes 3 seconds to snap the ball and spike it to stop the clock). a few years back, the second was plenty because the ball carrier ran out of bounds and stopped the clock (dead clock)....clock doesn't start again until the snap of the ball. You are aware that the clock stops when the play results in a first down to move the chains? No? He is not right about the one second. You are aware that the clock starts back as soon as the ref puts the ball down
You haven't been blocked until you've been flock blocked!!!
|
|
|
Re: Saban observation
[Re: lectrode]
#2973703
12/03/19 09:39 AM
12/03/19 09:39 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 12,857 Montgomery / Luverne
crenshawco
Booner
|
Booner
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 12,857
Montgomery / Luverne
|
You are aware that the clock starts back as soon as the ref puts the ball down That is correct. But, the play was reviewed, and determined that there was 1 second left on the clock. Per the NCAA rules, the clock is stopped following a review, and there is no runoff. The NFL has a rule in place so that there is a 10 second runoff after reviews. I'm sure Saban will whine enough to get that implemented in the NCAA rule book soon enough
|
|
|
|