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Re: Saban observation [Re: jawbone] #2972362
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Originally Posted by jawbone
About three weeks ago one of my friends said that he bet Saban retires after this year. He has no more info than I do on the workings at Alabama football, but something sure made him say it. Maybe he knows more than I thought?



I don’t know if anyone else has noticed, but over the last week, you are all of a sudden riddled with all kinds of insider. It’s impressive.


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Originally Posted by jawbone
About three weeks ago one of my friends said that he bet Saban retires after this year. He has no more info than I do on the workings at Alabama football, but something sure made him say it. Maybe he knows more than I thought?

He sure did not sound like he was retiring during the post game interviews said he would do a better job coaching going forward.

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Originally Posted by jbatey1
Originally Posted by jawbone
About three weeks ago one of my friends said that he bet Saban retires after this year. He has no more info than I do on the workings at Alabama football, but something sure made him say it. Maybe he knows more than I thought?



I don’t know if anyone else has noticed, but over the last week, you are all of a sudden riddled with all kinds of insider. It’s impressive.


Reading comprehension. He said this three weeks ago and I specifically said he had no more knowledge than I do of the inside workings of Alabama football, which is none. Now if this had been about USCe or Muschamp, he is well connected.


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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2972395
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Boy you auburn fans have some hot takes lol

Just enjoy your win and not going to the playoffs just like Bama. Maybe your team will make it one day 😀



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Re: Saban observation [Re: jbatey1] #2972398
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[quote=jbatey1]To be honest, I was glad to see a little fire from Nick. Some big games he seems to be a little to calm. He had a right to be upset before halftime with that screwing the refs gave.
Refs screwed him unless he wants a second added back then it's ok. Dangerous to mess with seconds in Jordan Hare. They will get you beat.

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For the record, my opinion, which is based on nothing but some assumptions of human character, is that Saban won't be retiring. At least it might depend on how the bowl game goes, but right now, he wouldn't leave. His ego won't let him go out on a loss, especially one in which so many people are pointing the finger at him as the reason for the loss. He has an overwhelming desire to win and I think the only way he leaves is with another title or in the proverbial Pinebox.


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Saban is too narcissistic to retire a loser to Auburn and LSU. The season will be a disaster if they lose the bowl game. In Saban’s defense (no pun intended) injuries have killed him on defense the past couple years. What’s more concerning to me is the lack of discipline on the team.


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Re: Saban observation [Re: Tigger85] #2972472
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Originally Posted by Tigger85
[quote=jbatey1]To be honest, I was glad to see a little fire from Nick. Some big games he seems to be a little to calm. He had a right to be upset before halftime with that screwing the refs gave.
Refs screwed him unless he wants a second added back then it's ok. Dangerous to mess with seconds in Jordan Hare. They will get you beat.



That’s hard to decipher... but the refs did add a second back to the clock and the whole process of that play, right before halftime, was a screwing...which is why he was upset.

For the record- I’m not a proponent of adding 1 second to JerdinHairs time clock. cry


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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2972612
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That guy is 68 years old. I don't care how mega type-A alpha you are, at 68 years old you simply don't possess the same things you did even 10 years earlier. If you can't see the teams have played "softer" the past 2-4 years, then you're just being a willfully blind fan. More than ANYTHING else, and frankly the only thing that's different since 2007, is you haven't had the "make his @$$ quit" alpha-dawg killer destroyer mentality from any players. There have been stretches the past few seasons where I've felt like the other team thought they could bully Bama, and sincerely some of them did. Bama might have even won a couple of those games, but you could just see "something" amiss physically.

Also, (and I blame this on the staff turnover) there have been an inordinate amount of recruiting misses....just a noticeable amount of big time recruits that don't pan out.


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Originally Posted by BruteX
Saban is too narcissistic to retire a loser to Auburn and LSU. The season will be a disaster if they lose the bowl game. In Saban’s defense (no pun intended) injuries have killed him on defense the past couple years. What’s more concerning to me is the lack of discipline on the team.


The lack of discipline (to me) is the #1 evidence of Saban's 68-year-old self. The soft and undisciplined play is being allowed, they are taking on the personality. People do exactly the minimum expectation (what they're allowed to do).

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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2972728
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he's right about the 1 second complaint....had to explain it a few times to an AU fan, as to why the half should've been over with no kick. this year's second wasn't enough because it was a "live clock" situation - tackled on a running play in-bounds and clock starts on refs whistle, therefore the 3 seconds he's talking about come into play (takes 3 seconds to snap the ball and spike it to stop the clock). a few years back, the second was plenty because the ball carrier ran out of bounds and stopped the clock (dead clock)....clock doesn't start again until the snap of the ball.


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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2972736
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The review allowed the FG team to get setup.

It is possible to snap the ball with one second for a FG.

Great move by Gus.

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Originally Posted by burbank
The review allowed the FG team to get setup.

It is possible to snap the ball with one second for a FG.

Great move by Gus.


true, can happen if they're set when the whistle blows. gus's best trick was the 12 men on the field play where he lined the punter up out wide, then shifted to punt formation...confusion ain't illegal, but it sure hurts your pride when you fall for it!!!


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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2972891
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If y'all think Gus/Auburn had any clue whatsoever that the punt formation would confuse Bama into a penalty, or that in any way it was a known/expected/calculated decision, then that's the height of delusional fandom. They were in that formation to avoid a punt block, period.

The amount of sheer dumb luck in that game defies all explanation outside of divine intervention. As an Alabama fan watching that game, it was just frustrating to the N'th degree. Things happening that aren't normal for any team at any time (several times Danielson even commented he'd never seen that)....I commented that it felt like Nix could receive the snap, turn around backwards and heave it into the stands, and an unknown player who hadn't suited up all season would catch it for a score. I can't get that one Auburn drive out of my mind when Nix completed the long pass to Williams (one-handed circus catch with two Bama guys in perfect position), then was LITERALLY THROWING THE BALL AWAY and Hastings flies out of nowhere to catch it (the ball wasn't even gonna make it to the sideline, and 99% of the time those balls get intercepted), then Nix looked like freakin' Tom Brady throwing the TD to Connella (again with perfect coverage). Auburn's offense, especially Nix--an average athletic, white, true freshman--hand't looked that potent all season. Plays like the 100 yard pick-6 that bounced off Harris' back. That @#$@# just don't happen!!!!!! You could watch years of football and never see even one of the dumb luck things happen, yet several of them happened to Auburn in that same game. When you think about it, it's that same story every time they play the Iron Bowl in Auburn.


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Re: Saban observation [Re: burbank] #2972971
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So they had Nix in for max protect punt?

Good call. You obviously know ball.

Also, that second INT was a result of pressure. Nothing lucky about it. The other one was a bad throw.

Also, watch a replay of the last pass by Mac Jones. If not batted down, that was going to be a house call as well.


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Re: Saban observation [Re: ikillbux] #2972986
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Originally Posted by ikillbux
If y'all think Gus/Auburn had any clue whatsoever that the punt formation would confuse Bama into a penalty, or that in any way it was a known/expected/calculated decision, then that's the height of delusional fandom. They were in that formation to avoid a punt block, period.

The amount of sheer dumb luck in that game defies all explanation outside of divine intervention. As an Alabama fan watching that game, it was just frustrating to the N'th degree. Things happening that aren't normal for any team at any time (several times Danielson even commented he'd never seen that)....I commented that it felt like Nix could receive the snap, turn around backwards and heave it into the stands, and an unknown player who hadn't suited up all season would catch it for a score. I can't get that one Auburn drive out of my mind when Nix completed the long pass to Williams (one-handed circus catch with two Bama guys in perfect position), then was LITERALLY THROWING THE BALL AWAY and Hastings flies out of nowhere to catch it (the ball wasn't even gonna make it to the sideline, and 99% of the time those balls get intercepted), then Nix looked like freakin' Tom Brady throwing the TD to Connella (again with perfect coverage). Auburn's offense, especially Nix--an average athletic, white, true freshman--hand't looked that potent all season. Plays like the 100 yard pick-6 that bounced off Harris' back. That @#$@# just don't happen!!!!!! You could watch years of football and never see even one of the dumb luck things happen, yet several of them happened to Auburn in that same game. When you think about it, it's that same story every time they play the Iron Bowl in Auburn.



Every nationwide sports show I’ve listened to today has said this exact same thing. And as a Bama fan I think the Tide overall is a better football team than AU and LSU even with the inability to get off the field on third down. But wasn’t the best disciplined in those two losses. So you can have all the four and five stars on the field you have but when they don’t know the snap count, jump offsides, don’t know when or when not to be on the field, where to lineup or take a swing at an opposing player you’ll get beat every time.


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Originally Posted by ikillbux
If y'all think Gus/Auburn had any clue whatsoever that the punt formation would confuse Bama into a penalty, or that in any way it was a known/expected/calculated decision, then that's the height of delusional fandom. They were in that formation to avoid a punt block, period.

The amount of sheer dumb luck in that game defies all explanation outside of divine intervention. As an Alabama fan watching that game, it was just frustrating to the N'th degree. Things happening that aren't normal for any team at any time (several times Danielson even commented he'd never seen that)....I commented that it felt like Nix could receive the snap, turn around backwards and heave it into the stands, and an unknown player who hadn't suited up all season would catch it for a score. I can't get that one Auburn drive out of my mind when Nix completed the long pass to Williams (one-handed circus catch with two Bama guys in perfect position), then was LITERALLY THROWING THE BALL AWAY and Hastings flies out of nowhere to catch it (the ball wasn't even gonna make it to the sideline, and 99% of the time those balls get intercepted), then Nix looked like freakin' Tom Brady throwing the TD to Connella (again with perfect coverage). Auburn's offense, especially Nix--an average athletic, white, true freshman--hand't looked that potent all season. Plays like the 100 yard pick-6 that bounced off Harris' back. That @#$@# just don't happen!!!!!! You could watch years of football and never see even one of the dumb luck things happen, yet several of them happened to Auburn in that same game. When you think about it, it's that same story every time they play the Iron Bowl in Auburn.


You would be correct if you replace the word "block" in your second sentence with the word "return". It was something they had been working on with the intentions of having the defense in a punt safe formation. There was no intention of drawing the penalty, but that was just a bonus thanks to someone dropping the ball on the other side of the ball.

As for the dumb luck comments, I'm amazed that bammer is the only team that when a QB throws it up and a receiver catches it, it is skill, but when another team does it, it is luck.


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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by ikillbux
If y'all think Gus/Auburn had any clue whatsoever that the punt formation would confuse Bama into a penalty, or that in any way it was a known/expected/calculated decision, then that's the height of delusional fandom. They were in that formation to avoid a punt block, period.

The amount of sheer dumb luck in that game defies all explanation outside of divine intervention. As an Alabama fan watching that game, it was just frustrating to the N'th degree. Things happening that aren't normal for any team at any time (several times Danielson even commented he'd never seen that)....I commented that it felt like Nix could receive the snap, turn around backwards and heave it into the stands, and an unknown player who hadn't suited up all season would catch it for a score. I can't get that one Auburn drive out of my mind when Nix completed the long pass to Williams (one-handed circus catch with two Bama guys in perfect position), then was LITERALLY THROWING THE BALL AWAY and Hastings flies out of nowhere to catch it (the ball wasn't even gonna make it to the sideline, and 99% of the time those balls get intercepted), then Nix looked like freakin' Tom Brady throwing the TD to Connella (again with perfect coverage). Auburn's offense, especially Nix--an average athletic, white, true freshman--hand't looked that potent all season. Plays like the 100 yard pick-6 that bounced off Harris' back. That @#$@# just don't happen!!!!!! You could watch years of football and never see even one of the dumb luck things happen, yet several of them happened to Auburn in that same game. When you think about it, it's that same story every time they play the Iron Bowl in Auburn.


You would be correct if you replace the word "block" in your second sentence with the word "return". It was something they had been working on with the intentions of having the defense in a punt safe formation. There was no intention of drawing the penalty, but that was just a bonus thanks to someone dropping the ball on the other side of the ball.

As for the dumb luck comments, I'm amazed that bammer is the only team that when a QB throws it up and a receiver catches it, it is skill, but when another team does it, it is luck.

Bo was jumping up and down having a keniption fit yelling to the refs to count them, how can anybody say that was not their intentions? Bo sure thought it was. Why does it matter? They tried some trickery and it worked. Thats what gus is known for. Why try to deny it when it works? A win is a win right?

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You Bams are just ignurnt.

Auburn was planning to punt but did not want a return. They left Nix in so Bama would have to leave the D in and they were planning to shift to punt formation and punt with no return man back. Nix did what he does every play, looks over the defensive alignment. What would you do in that situation, just stand there and hope the refs see it. I would have been jumping up and down pointing it out also. There was nothing tricky about it, just good strategy to try and win the game. Admit it, the Bama coaching staff was out coached on that play. NS knows he was out coached that play that's why he acted like he did.

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