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Swindle & Palaniuk #2968540
11/27/19 11:09 PM
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Gerald Swindle and Brandon Palaniuk have announced that they are leaving MLF and heading back to Bass. Luckily for them they were able to claim Legendary status which put them back in the Elite Series....i bet there are a few others who wish they could go back as well.


I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: MTeague] #2968564
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Good. Maybe a few others will so I can actually start following it again.

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: klay] #2968871
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Originally Posted by klay
Good. Maybe a few others will so I can actually start following it again.

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: klay] #2968984
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Originally Posted by klay
Good. Maybe a few others will so I can actually start following it again.


There will be others.

Gotta do what you think's best for you and family. Just part of business.


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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: MTeague] #2969076
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MLF was ok to watch, but nothing in the fishing world beat the drama of the final day/weigh-in for the Bassmaster Classic and everything that went into it.


The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: MTeague] #2969093
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I knew Swindle would never make it on that Format. I said it when he left Bass

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: MTeague] #2969132
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Will he go back to triton boats?

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: MTeague] #2969156
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No he just signed with Phoenix

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: MTeague] #2969297
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Looks like he signed a long term deal with Phoenix. Said hell be in one until the end. Probably got a big bonus for switching back to B.A.S.S.. lot of talk about the brand since announcing the switch. Followed by the league change announcement. Lots of eyes and ears creating a lot of exposure.

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: MTeague] #2969351
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Not sure why anyone would want to fish professionally. There is no money in it imo.

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Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros.

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: Ben2] #2969373
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Not sure why anyone would want to fish professionally. There is no money in it imo.


Endorsements are where the money is. Swindle and Vann Damm were making $500k annually 13 yrs ago.

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: desertdog] #2969421
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Originally Posted by desertdog
Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros.

Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr

Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: Ben2] #2969668
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by desertdog
Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros.

Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr

I think many of them were wealthy before they even started. Many own their own businesses which allows them a lot of time off to fish. I know one guy who is the best I have ever seen but doesn't have the capital or time necessary to fish professionally. I would even say probably some of the best bass fisherman are not even on any of the big time trails because its too risky. My bud used to win a lot of $ locally but got tired of all the bs. His dream was to fish BASS but it was too risky as he is just an ordinary working man and couldn't get enough time off.

He has beaten a couple guys in local events who are now big time pros so I know he is better than them.

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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: Ben2] #2969697
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by desertdog
Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros.

Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr

Truth. I dont know how their wives put up with it either. I dont personally know anyone who has the type of wife who would still be with them after a year on tour. Where do these people find these women that put up with that???

I've heard of their wives helping fund it, I've heard people cashing out their retirement, taking loans, etc to fund it. I've heard the logic of treating it like a business and "well it'll take a few years to get positive cash flow or turn a profit." This is all hearsay but I believe it.

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Y'all are all right in some ways.

Some wives are incredibly supportive financially, emotionally, physically (driving trucks, backing boats). Some go on the road and some stay home. Some wives are in the other camp. They are worried about things, nag, berate, make the guy feel like schitt for being on the road and not making a check.

The divorce rate probably is on average w/ America or maybe a bit higher. Most guys today, especially the younger ones, let the women know quickly what's going on with the money, travel and time away. They either get with the program from the get-go or don't last long. The women I know with the guys are supportive and enjoy it.

Some guys make a living - retirement, pay bills, kids' college fund, all of that - but it's a minority. By that I mean maybe 20 guys, tops? Possibly 30. They're the established guys with solid deals who work their butts off on and off the water. They're valued by their sponsors, who pay them well. The majority maybe break even, and there's a group that loses money. How and why the last group stays with it, I don't understand. I guess they're like the poker player looking fdor one big score.

Some guys have sponsors to start with. Some live in their trucks and eat peanut butter and maybe white bread, and drink water. Some hit the road winging it and others have a business plan with a 2- or 3-year outlook. It's a wide-ranging span.

Most have off-season jobs as guides, graphic designers or other things. Others - most in the "making money" group - don't work outside of their pro angler job. I personally think some of the top guys fish the Opens or Costas (the AAA-level stuff) mostly to make money. They'll say they do it to "stay sharp" and if they qualify for the Classic or Cup, that's a bonus; IMO their biggest motivation is picking up extra checks along with fishing lakes-rivers that may be on the schedule in in a year or two. Some of the Open and Costa sites end up on the Tour or BPT-FLW schedules.

In many ways it's similar to the mini-tours in golf - they're chasing a dream, driving crazy distances, going into debt, eating-sleeping chitty, supportive family-girlfriends or no girlfriend to get in the way, hoping to make enough and play well enough to get to the Korn Ferry Tour and eventually earn their Tour Card.

How and why they do it, we don't completely understand. I know a guy with a wife and young kid who quit his job for his 3-year quest. I think he lasted two seasons, just hammer-beaten by the intensity and grind along with the mental grind of losing the money. His was a common story that's still being told each year. Some chase that dream, get over the hump and make it work.

Here's one story of a Bama guy who's been out there, took time off and built up finances playing poker, and is now going back to fishing:

http://www.bassfan.com/news_article/9787/welcher-prepared-to-go-all-in-on-elite-series#.XeGAmJNKgnU

If he can make it work, cool for him. Will be interesting to watch.


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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: MTeague] #2969758
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watching a b.a.s.s tourney is like playing atari. fun but graphics suck. MLF much better!


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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #2969867
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by desertdog
Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros.

Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr

I think many of them were wealthy before they even started. Many own their own businesses which allows them a lot of time off to fish. I know one guy who is the best I have ever seen but doesn't have the capital or time necessary to fish professionally. I would even say probably some of the best bass fisherman are not even on any of the big time trails because its too risky. My bud used to win a lot of $ locally but got tired of all the bs. His dream was to fish BASS but it was too risky as he is just an ordinary working man and couldn't get enough time off.

He has beaten a couple guys in local events who are now big time pros so I know he is better than them.

I'm sure the guy is good bi t u gotta remember that is his home lake. Throw them on a lake he don't know with them guys then gauge it from that


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Originally Posted by Sandmtnslayer
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by desertdog
Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros.

Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr

I think many of them were wealthy before they even started. Many own their own businesses which allows them a lot of time off to fish. I know one guy who is the best I have ever seen but doesn't have the capital or time necessary to fish professionally. I would even say probably some of the best bass fisherman are not even on any of the big time trails because its too risky. My bud used to win a lot of $ locally but got tired of all the bs. His dream was to fish BASS but it was too risky as he is just an ordinary working man and couldn't get enough time off.

He has beaten a couple guys in local events who are now big time pros so I know he is better than them.

I'm sure the guy is good bi t u gotta remember that is his home lake. Throw them on a lake he don't know with them guys then gauge it from that

Well he has won good $ on Lay, Mitchell, Jordan and Smith. He is a wizard at finding fish.

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I dont think i ever saw a feller with a 20yr old boat and truck out there worried about his morgage payment lol. You have poor then you have rich poor. My poor is i cant pay my morgage or light bill for example. Their poor is, i cant keep touring like this.

I have a child hood friend thats loaded. They buy and develop high end subdivisions to flip. If you didnt see his estate he would have you believing that he needs to borrow lunch money. His bathroom cost more than my 120k house. His poor is a different kind of my poor lol. No matter how bad he gets, he still hasnt had to sell his 500k boat or any of his smaller boats etc. for example or change his lifestyle.

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