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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/11/19 08:48 PM
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Looks like your master baiting skills are weak.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/11/19 09:04 PM
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Being able to hunt over corn this year is what is finally going to transform me from an average, kill a nice deer every couple of years guy to the world class hunter that I have always known I could be. Or it could just make me a couple of hundred $ lighter by the end of the season.
What you do today, you have to sleep with tonight.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: turkey247]
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11/11/19 09:12 PM
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It’s all about where you put it and how. No feeders. Not in food plots. Not in high traffic areas. Keep scent down and let them eat it without interruption. Other factors. I can get mature bucks on camera with well placed locations and they will use it in the daytime and stay a long time if you just leave it alone. I didn’t say I don’t have mature bucks on cameras at different feeders. I rarely post deer pics on social media anymore. My comment and experience is that feeders will NEVER replace a well planted and fertilized food plot. As a matter of fact I think food plots are even more important now vs before being able to hunt over feeders. Lazy hunters, there’s a bunch, will half a$$ plots thinking corn is better.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/11/19 09:24 PM
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Is it a throw and mow plot Matt?
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: Mbrock]
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11/11/19 09:31 PM
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To think they somehow are addicted to it like it’s an uncontrollable urge is just false. I agree with that statement. I still think there’s ways to use corn where older bucks use it more frequently and more often. And a lot of factors play into it. It’s like anything thing else with hunting, some are going to do it well, and a lot of hunters are going to struggle with it, if that is how they try to kill deer. I honestly don’t like it being legal, especially in a club setting, seeing how medium to large hunting clubs are about to get some more drama - over things clubs haven’t thought all the way thru yet. Going to be an interesting year IMO. And some of the stories from the clubs should be entertaining.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: turkey247]
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11/11/19 09:37 PM
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To think they somehow are addicted to it like it’s an uncontrollable urge is just false. I agree with that statement. I still think there’s ways to use corn where older bucks use it more frequently and more often. And a lot of factors play into it. It’s like anything thing else with hunting, some are going to do it well, and a lot of hunters are going to struggle with it, if that is how they try to kill deer. I honestly don’t like it being legal, especially in a club setting, seeing how medium to large hunting clubs are about to get some more drama - over things clubs haven’t thought all the way thru yet. Going to be an interesting year IMO. And some of the stories from the clubs should be entertaining. Everyone is STILL missing the point of the original post lol. I’m getting PLENTY of daylight pictures, of mature deer, at feeders. My point is they utilize our really good food plots MORE than they do the corn and that corn is not the “secret weapon”. Pressure is the ultimate weapon for killing big bucks (lack of pressure).
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/11/19 09:53 PM
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Pressure is the ultimate weapon for killing big bucks (lack of pressure). This is for dang sure! I guess this is what I think of first and foremost when this comes up - in regards to hunting pressure. A lot of hunters will hit the easy button with corn, and will be clumsy with it and have bad experiences. Spook a lot of deer in the process also.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/11/19 09:58 PM
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Give it 4 years. Deer in AL will be imprinted to feeders and corn. And that’s fine. In a lot of areas they already are
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: 257wbymag]
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11/11/19 10:15 PM
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Give it 4 years. Deer in AL will be imprinted to feeders and corn. And that’s fine. In a lot of areas they already are X2. That's my hypothesis. The mature deer in Texas sure dont seem to mind feeders
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: Mbrock]
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11/11/19 10:20 PM
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Y’all are comparing apples to oranges when it comes to TX and deer and anywhere else. You’re right. TX folks for most part all respect the resource. Here in bama it’s a totally different mentality
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
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11/11/19 10:22 PM
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Y’all are comparing apples to oranges when it comes to TX and deer and anywhere else. I agree to some extent but on properties that are properly managed, I bet you see very similar results to Tejas
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/11/19 10:57 PM
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My deer come to corn better than anything, but then again it is in the form of 4-8 acre corn fields. But when there, they also spend time in the greens and other things planted.
To God Be The Glory!
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: 257wbymag]
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11/12/19 07:07 AM
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Give it 4 years. Deer in AL will be imprinted to feeders and corn. And that’s fine. In a lot of areas they already are In 4 years CWD will be found here and you can kiss baiting bye bye.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/12/19 07:55 AM
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You bunch a damn rookies. If you want to know how to kill big bucks, just follow ol Timber around. He dont need no stinkin corn
You haven't been blocked until you've been flock blocked!!!
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/12/19 07:56 AM
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that deer love freshly planted food plots, good browse and freshly dropped acorns more than corn, however, when your plots are mowed to the ground, most of the browse has diminished, and all the acorns are gone and its cold, the deer will be all over the corn. It's not a cure all, it's just another tool in the shed. We felt our doe population strayed from our property late last year, so i'm throwing the corn to them to keep them on the property so maybe the bucks will be here.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/12/19 09:04 AM
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lol @ james. OP is right though corn isn't the magical answer. ITS THE ONLY ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/12/19 12:54 PM
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Nah. All in is getting it by the dump truck load
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: Avengedsevenfold]
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11/12/19 12:57 PM
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Nah. All in is getting it by the dump truck load We kept getting the he dump truck stuck, The bags are more portable and discreet!
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/12/19 01:07 PM
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Legal baiting evens the playing field. We have rich neighbors who can afford tickets. We can’t. I’m glad it’s finally legal it makes it fair for everyone.
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: Bustinbeards]
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11/12/19 01:39 PM
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Nah. All in is getting it by the dump truck load We kept getting the he dump truck stuck, The bags are more portable and discreet! Over the past month I've seen dozens of trucks hauling those pallets. I saw one a few days ago in a 1/2 ton truck with a full pallet and another 15-20 bags thrown in. Poor truck was dragging the ground.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/12/19 03:32 PM
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When we have as many acorns as we do this year, corn won’t be a factor until January. This is imo a one in 10+ year bumper crop of acorns on my place. I’ve seen multiple white oak trees with acorns not eaten because there’s so many. I have so many water/red oak acorns it’s not even funny. I still have saw tooth acorns and that’s almost unheard of.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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11/12/19 04:12 PM
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Huge mistake legalizing corn. This is gonna result in an explosion of hog propagation. If you like hunting hogs, great. How?
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: Ar1220]
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11/12/19 08:22 PM
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Just hang on fellers I'm still betting on a positive cwd test any day....that reminds of a song I believe the title is TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN Maybe. I dont know if itll show up this year but I'll bet on it in the future.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
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Huge mistake legalizing corn. This is gonna result in an explosion of hog propagation. If you like hunting hogs, great. How? Hogs love corn even more than deer do. They will also scare off deer when they take over your feeder. They also are nocturnal so there ain't much you can do about it.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
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11/17/19 02:00 PM
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when they shoot that big buck they will convince themselves that they accomplished something. I’m guessing a lot of people will leave this part out of the story. But don’t get me wrong a lot will admit it and that’s fine it’s perfectly legal so nothing wrong it.
"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."
-Dr. Craig Harper
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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11/17/19 04:41 PM
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You dont say! I thought I could just sit over a pile of corn and kill all the deer in the woods. Obviously I'm joking . I really dont care if you use corn or not why are so many obsessed with how others choose to hunt? You hunt how you like I will hunt how I like. Whats the problem here?
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Old enough to know better but still too young too care!
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: red neck richie]
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11/17/19 04:53 PM
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You hunt how you like I will hunt how I like. Whats the problem here? Public servants seeing themselves as masters instead of servants and getting away with it.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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Huge mistake legalizing corn. This is gonna result in an explosion of hog propagation. If you like hunting hogs, great. How? Hogs love corn even more than deer do. They will also scare off deer when they take over your feeder. They also are nocturnal so there ain't much you can do about it. Yep, we didn't have any hogs in Alabama before now because no one put out corn. That's all screwed up now because of this baiting law.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: AU338MAG]
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Huge mistake legalizing corn. This is gonna result in an explosion of hog propagation. If you like hunting hogs, great. How? Hogs love corn even more than deer do. They will also scare off deer when they take over your feeder. They also are nocturnal so there ain't much you can do about it. Yep, we didn't have any hogs in Alabama before now because no one put out corn. That's all screwed up now because of this baiting law. Wait and see!
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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Hogs eat tons of stuff and have been thriving here for a while. Corn will not add or subtract to that equation one bit. If you don’t like hunting over bait, go spray spike 80 on your oak trees and don’t dare plant a greenfield! That would be unethical! Or, you could just stop hunting if it makes you so mad. You could take up embroidery........
Hunting brings out the worst in people.
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
[Re: joshm28]
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Hunting near existing oak trees is not "hunting with bait." That's natural food.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
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Hunting near existing oak trees is not "hunting with bait." That's natural food.
What if I fill up a bag with those acorns and dump them in front of my stand in a pine thicket? ,
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Hogs eat tons of stuff and have been thriving here for a while. Corn will not add or subtract to that equation one bit. If you don’t like hunting over bait, go spray spike 80 on your oak trees and don’t dare plant a greenfield! That would be unethical! Or, you could just stop hunting if it makes you so mad. You could take up embroidery........ Or scrapbooking...😀
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Corn is not a magic answer
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So I heard they had a great weekend at TATSOULS old club. 25 bucks were killed during the youth weekend. All on greenfields with most shots around 4 PM. Feeders are 100 yards off the fields. Perhaps the tender grass is highly desireable because natural browse affected by drought? Is this for real? Wow that's a lot of deer!
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Hunting near existing oak trees is not "hunting with bait." That's natural food.
Those hogs like akerns too, Clem. Let's cut them all down...
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