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Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
#2951606
11/09/19 10:25 PM
11/09/19 10:25 PM
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Posts: 8,934
Between the coosa and cahaba
!shiloh!
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Between the coosa and cahaba
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I have a couple pounds of imr 4350 and a pound of imr 4895. I'm loading 150 gr ttsx . The barns reloading manual doesn't list 4350 for 150 's but does with the 4895 . I've read that the 4895 can be pretty temp sensitive. What I'm trying to ask is has anyone had trouble with accuracy with the 150 gr ttsx imr 4350 combo. Thanks
ggg
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: !shiloh!]
#2951728
11/10/19 08:06 AM
11/10/19 08:06 AM
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North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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IMR4350 will work with the 150's. Both powders will have some temperature sensitivity, but I wouldn't be very concerned about it unless you are at max load and shooting in very hot weather. Nosler lists a max load of 59.0 he IMR4350 for 3000 FPS and Sierra lists a max load of 58.4 gr IMR4350 at 2850 FPS.
I would work up to around 59.0 gr and look for any pressure signs or if you have a chronograph, work up until velocity is around 2950 FPS and use the most accurate load nearest to max velocity.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: !shiloh!]
#2951895
11/10/19 11:17 AM
11/10/19 11:17 AM
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Posts: 36,174
alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 36,174
alabama
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I used to load 58gr 4350 under a 150 gr Nosler Partition, for prolly 20 years. Accurate.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: !shiloh!]
#2951932
11/10/19 12:34 PM
11/10/19 12:34 PM
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Posts: 3,927
Woodstock
3% outdoorsman
10 point
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10 point
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Woodstock
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4895 is more ideal for 30-06 probably perfect burn rate for the cartridge.4350 will run into compressed loads more often and is a little on the slow burning side for that cartridge but I'd try both one might shoot lights out compared to the other especially if that's all you got.just have to try it out and see no one knows how that particular rifle will do with either
Last edited by 3% outdoorsman; 11/10/19 12:37 PM.
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: !shiloh!]
#2951936
11/10/19 12:40 PM
11/10/19 12:40 PM
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behind my Dillon
dave260rem!
Skinny’s Ex
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Skinny’s Ex
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behind my Dillon
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58 of 4350 under a 150 is like the Chevy smallblock of '06 loads. Found 4895 better suited to the .308 family. Since your loading ttsx's watch pressure when you get close to max.
Only hits count.
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: !shiloh!]
#2952010
11/10/19 03:20 PM
11/10/19 03:20 PM
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Posts: 8,934
Between the coosa and cahaba
!shiloh!
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I loaded 20 rounds with 50.5 gr 4895. Shot a 5 shot group. Last 4 shots made one ragged hole at 100 yards . I believe that dog'll hunt ! Fixing to go roll another 30 of them.
ggg
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: Dixiepatriot]
#2952395
11/10/19 09:35 PM
11/10/19 09:35 PM
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Posts: 14,588
Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 14,588
Tuscaloosa Co.
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I never heard 4895 was temperature sensitive. Never loaded IMR 4350 for a 30-06 but it shines in my 280 with 154g bullets. If you have a 30-06 that won't shoot 165 grain bullets with IMR4350 or H4350, you should throw that rifle away.
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
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#2952600
11/11/19 08:07 AM
11/11/19 08:07 AM
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Hartselle
longshot
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Hartselle
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H4350 is my go to for 30.06 with a 165gr Partition
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Some men are born brothers, Others earn it... JD
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: !shiloh!]
#2952938
11/11/19 04:55 PM
11/11/19 04:55 PM
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Posts: 2,462
Mississippi
riflenut
10 point
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10 point
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Mississippi
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Both are great in the old ‘06. I’m currently loading H4350 behind a 165 gr Accubond in a finicky Ruger 1.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
"I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers." George Mason
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: riflenut]
#2953006
11/11/19 06:29 PM
11/11/19 06:29 PM
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Posts: 8,934
Between the coosa and cahaba
!shiloh!
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Both are great in the old ‘06. I’m currently loading H4350 behind a 165 gr Accubond in a finicky Ruger 1. I have a box of 180 gr accubonds I'm going to load using the 4350. I've never shot or loaded the accubond.
ggg
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: !shiloh!]
#2959396
11/17/19 02:24 PM
11/17/19 02:24 PM
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Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85
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I'm not sure if it's because I'm doing something or just lucky I have 2 rifles that shoot everything I load really well. I have a Ruger Mark II in 30:06 and a Rem 700 in 308. Everything I've loaded in between 150 to 168 has shot great in my 308. I use different powders different bullets, (Nosler, Hornady & Seira). The same for the Ruger. Except I have loaded a 125 Nosler BT as well as a 190 LR Nosler for it. Both guns shoot everything in between 150 -168 really well, regardless of powder or bullet brand or weight. Is that normal?
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: !shiloh!]
#2959424
11/17/19 02:56 PM
11/17/19 02:56 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,037
North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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First. It would depend on your definition of shooting great. Second, both cartridges have been around a long time and are military based, so there is a lot of information and a wide range of suitable powders and bullets for each. The 308 is not particular at all, and if I had one that wouldn't shoot 1 MOA or better with little work, I'd send it down the road.
But some guns definitely show preferences for certain powders, bullets or combinations. For example, earlier this year I tried a combination of H1000 and Sierras new 165 gr TGK bullets in a 7 mm RM. Shot very good @ 5/8" groups, but same bullet with R23 powder at similar velocities would only group @ 1-1/2". Same gun will shoot 140 gr Accubonds into tight groups, but won't shoot the 160 gr Accubonds worth a crap no matter what powder.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Imr 4350 or imr 4895 30-06
[Re: AU338MAG]
#2965425
11/24/19 01:34 PM
11/24/19 01:34 PM
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,329
Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85
10 point
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10 point
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Northeast Florida
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First. It would depend on your definition of shooting great. Second, both cartridges have been around a long time and are military based, so there is a lot of information and a wide range of suitable powders and bullets for each. The 308 is not particular at all, and if I had one that wouldn't shoot 1 MOA or better with little work, I'd send it down the road.
But some guns definitely show preferences for certain powders, bullets or combinations. For example, earlier this year I tried a combination of H1000 and Sierras new 165 gr TGK bullets in a 7 mm RM. Shot very good @ 5/8" groups, but same bullet with R23 powder at similar velocities would only group @ 1-1/2". Same gun will shoot 140 gr Accubonds into tight groups, but won't shoot the 160 gr Accubonds worth a crap no matter what powder. Shooting great for me is 1"moa. The powder that works best for me is IMR 4350 & IMR4064. IMR 4895 is too far behind. If that isn't shooting great than I don't know what is.
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
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