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Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Squadron77] #2947460
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Originally Posted by Squadron77
I have taken a few kids hunting and I was surprised when they passed on small bucks. They said they wanted to wait for a trophy.

My daughter passed deer for 5 years before she shot her 9pt. After that she only want to shoot mature does or a buck bigger than the one she killed. I told her if that’s what she wants I’m good with it.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2947539
11/06/19 04:31 PM
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We have no written rules since we hunt thanks to the generosity if the landowners, but their wishes on the subject are simple. Your first buck, especially a kid, can be one of your choice although we try to encourage it to be a racked buck but if they get excited over a spike, that is fine too. We are pretty laid back since all of the regular hunters have the same management goals. The only penalty for a guest violation is simply never being invited back.


Excuse the sanctimony.
Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2947550
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This is what I have for our rules on First Bucks. It applies to any member or Family Member, not just children.

4. MEMBERS CHOICE / FIRST BUCK EVER: December 28-30, Members and Family Members are allowed to
take 1 Buck of Choice with no restrictions. If a Member or Family Member has never taken a buck, they are
allowed to take a BUCK OF CHOICE, at any time. If one is taken, then they will not allowed one 12/28-30.


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Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: GomerPyle] #2947566
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Another tip on a small buck kill of a young hunter, if you can't find something good to say keep yo mouth shut. To him or her it's the biggest buck in the state , treat it as such. Tell them what a fine buck it is , brag on a well placed shot and such.

My son killed a smallish buck several years ago and while delivering it to the processor another feller brought in about a 120" buck. He told my son "if you'd let that one go he'd look like mine next year". My son told him , "you let that one go he'd made a 150". The laugh was on the feller with the 120. There was several other fellers there and they got a huge laugh out of it.


Any adult that says anything even remotely critical to a kid about a deer they killed deserves to have their teeth knocked down their throat. What an ass


I would place anyone who would criticize ANYONE'S first deer into the same category.

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: GomerPyle] #2947572
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Another tip on a small buck kill of a young hunter, if you can't find something good to say keep yo mouth shut. To him or her it's the biggest buck in the state , treat it as such. Tell them what a fine buck it is , brag on a well placed shot and such.

My son killed a smallish buck several years ago and while delivering it to the processor another feller brought in about a 120" buck. He told my son "if you'd let that one go he'd look like mine next year". My son told him , "you let that one go he'd made a 150". The laugh was on the feller with the 120. There was several other fellers there and they got a huge laugh out of it.


Any adult that says anything even remotely critical to a kid about a deer they killed deserves to have their teeth knocked down their throat. What an ass

This


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Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2947663
11/06/19 06:32 PM
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I'm fortunate to have been hunting on the same property that we have owned my whole life and only have a few family members and close buddies that hunt with us so it's not really a hunting club. But our rules are very simple on this stuff. 1 Have fun. 2 Shoot whatever legal deer you want to shoot . 3 Have fun. I've done the whole it has to be a certain size and age thing before and it's amazing how much more fun we have when it's if you like it and want to shoot it then shoot it. It's a lot easier and more enjoyable to me when everyone is laid back and not worrying about who shoots a certain deer or a deer that's " too small" or a deer that someone else has as their #1 hitlist buck. It's all supposed to be about having fun and enjoying God's Great Outdoors with your family and friends.

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2947705
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When my kids get into it they can shoot anything they want to! That’s what I was allowed to do and I loved it! I’ll still shoot a small one if I want to and never cared what anyone says about it. I still get excited when I see any deer and that’s what I enjoy about it


"A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of." Luke 6:45
Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2947836
11/06/19 08:22 PM
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" First time Hunter or youth hunter who has never killed a deer can kill a doe or any buck allowable by state/county game regulations" .


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Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Clem] #2948272
11/07/19 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Clem


Shoot legal deer, enjoy hunting. That's all I'd say.


^^^^^This all day! I tell my guests to shoot what makes them happy- if they kill a small buck im proud for them as long as they are excited. Hunting shouldn't be stressful because of the worrying involved in trying to meet someone else's expectations.

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: GomerPyle] #2948341
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Any adult that says anything even remotely critical to a kid about a deer they killed deserves to have their teeth knocked down their throat. What an ass


Truth!


"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer."
Jimmy G.
Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2949040
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We let kids shoot any first buck of their liking in our designated kid blocs on our property...and there is nothing but proudness of any deer that they kill.
At Birmingham country club you have to shoot an 80 to be able to play the west course as a kid, we use similar practices in our lease. Gives the youngns something to strive for.

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: okfuski] #2949071
11/07/19 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by okfuski
I'm fortunate to have been hunting on the same property that we have owned my whole life and only have a few family members and close buddies that hunt with us so it's not really a hunting club. But our rules are very simple on this stuff. 1 Have fun. 2 Shoot whatever legal deer you want to shoot . 3 Have fun. I've done the whole it has to be a certain size and age thing before and it's amazing how much more fun we have when it's if you like it and want to shoot it then shoot it. It's a lot easier and more enjoyable to me when everyone is laid back and not worrying about who shoots a certain deer or a deer that's " too small" or a deer that someone else has as their #1 hitlist buck. It's all supposed to be about having fun and enjoying God's Great Outdoors with your family and friends.


Amen, man. Amen.


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Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: okfuski] #2949082
11/07/19 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by okfuski
I'm fortunate to have been hunting on the same property that we have owned my whole life and only have a few family members and close buddies that hunt with us so it's not really a hunting club. But our rules are very simple on this stuff. 1 Have fun. 2 Shoot whatever legal deer you want to shoot . 3 Have fun. I've done the whole it has to be a certain size and age thing before and it's amazing how much more fun we have when it's if you like it and want to shoot it then shoot it. It's a lot easier and more enjoyable to me when everyone is laid back and not worrying about who shoots a certain deer or a deer that's " too small" or a deer that someone else has as their #1 hitlist buck. It's all supposed to be about having fun and enjoying God's Great Outdoors with your family and friends.



I agree with you to an extent but its easy to have that view when you still see plenty of deer. I grew up as a kid hunting land in Jackson Co where everyone blasted everything that walked. Just to actually see deer period was something special. Most hunts you didn’t see chit. Let me tell you….it wasn’t really that fun…..and that’s where there has to be some happy medium found. Shooting whatever you want if fun until there aint chit to shoot.

With that being said....I'm all for letting kids shoot whatever for their first deer.

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Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2949386
11/08/19 06:19 AM
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We only try to shoot mature bucks sure mistakes happen no big deal. Mature deer is what my children will shoot or any guests children will shoot I would not change the rules for a group of hunters. I dont think the kids at age 5-10 really care if they get to shoot anything at all. From my experience they like going hunting and playing around camp and building fires etc the shooting seems to be secondary they just want to spend time with their dads.

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2949689
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On my place I don’t let my kids or their friends shoot spikes. We have enough bucks that they’ll be another opportunity soon enough. If the friends act right, they’ll be invited back. I can’t let them shoot a yearling spike. IMO

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2949695
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We have a size limit. You go under, cost a Franklin. Pops wants to pay it then so be it. Do it twice, you may not get to come back. But we usually have some that are big enough.


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Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Clem] #2949701
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Originally Posted by Clem


Shoot legal deer, enjoy hunting. That's all I'd say.

Thank God I'm not in a club. But on our family land that's the rule for everyone, younf and old.
Have fun, enjoy the hunt, be safe.

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: globe] #2949805
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Originally Posted by globe
On my place I don’t let my kids or their friends shoot spikes. We have enough bucks that they’ll be another opportunity soon enough. If the friends act right, they’ll be invited back. I can’t let them shoot a yearling spike. IMO


I guess I don't understand this logic. Unless you are hosting a bunch of kids, what does it hurt for a kid to take a spike as their first deer? I see young deer on the side of the road all the time. Not like there's a guarantee he's going to make it through the season.

My rules at the farm are simple. Kids, or anyone else for that matter, can shoot any legal deer for their first kill. Personally, I would rather see them shoot a spike than a 2-1/2 or 3-1/2 year old that has proven that he's smart enough to get across the road.

The spike is probably the lowest total impact to the overall herd, and the old dry doe is probably the absolute best deer to shoot.

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Booger] #2949811
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My kids have never shot a bunch of small bucks and they have gotten along just fine. When I started taking them hunting they sat with me without a gun and watched at times up to 30+ deer in the fields and we would talk about them. We would talk about that's a little one and that one right there see it's got a short face and weighs 40lbs, that's what they look like... and that one over there.... he's maybe going to be a decent deer next year he's probably 2.5, etc.

I am sure it would be VERY hard to believe for some of y'all that they never got bored because they didn't pull the trigger.

So when they got bigger it came time for them to shoot their first buck... behold...... we actually hunted for one. What a foreign concept in Alabama. Just like we had been doing. And each shot a nice deer as their first.

The reason they got a nice deer as their first buck is because they had the opportunity to shoot a nice deer. The reason they had the opportunity to shoot a nice deer is because I taught them how to hunt and not how to blast spikes.

They are fired up about the upcoming deer season. They aren't talking about blasting does and heading back to the camp house to jaw jack with someone or get breakfast or hang out playing grabarse with someone back at the house. Which is what many "hunters" real focal point is.

My oldest is asking me to get him a new pair of merino wool underwear so that they can sit on stand longer on cold days waiting on a buck.

How could that possibly be? True Story.


Teach a kid to blast small bucks and they will get bored with deer hunting. They won't stick with it. And they will never have any patience. If they ever do shoot a good deer it will be blind arse luck.

Also a True Story.

Re: Young buck kill rules [Re: Clem] #2949814
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by okfuski
I'm fortunate to have been hunting on the same property that we have owned my whole life and only have a few family members and close buddies that hunt with us so it's not really a hunting club. But our rules are very simple on this stuff. 1 Have fun. 2 Shoot whatever legal deer you want to shoot . 3 Have fun. I've done the whole it has to be a certain size and age thing before and it's amazing how much more fun we have when it's if you like it and want to shoot it then shoot it. It's a lot easier and more enjoyable to me when everyone is laid back and not worrying about who shoots a certain deer or a deer that's " too small" or a deer that someone else has as their #1 hitlist buck. It's all supposed to be about having fun and enjoying God's Great Outdoors with your family and friends.


Amen, man. Amen.


Amen X4.

We do the exact same thing. So much more fun to celebrate the hunt with others. That's why I hunt, period.

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