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Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: centralala] #2942928
11/02/19 08:14 AM
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No BS, fire Chuck Sykes. He might be an accomplished biologist but dealing with people he is horrible. An to top it off he puts his horrible people skills in writing.

Who to bring in?? I've always been torn on this with police departments replacing the chief. Do you hire within giving the employees a reason to work hard to try to achieve this goal? Or do you from the outside doing away with the good old boy network? Dang sure don't want someone in Montgomery that is a follower. Someone that has their own opinion, can support that opinion, debate it respectfully, and realize if their opinion isn't used its not personal

There would be mandatory quarterly meetings for GW and biologist. Not on the same day. Discuss any complaints with their job. Try to get consistent understanding of laws through out the state. Bring anything that may make their job better from uniform to training. happy employees make a good organization. But in the end they are to protect a resource.

There would be a monthly news letter where at least 1 law/rule will be discussed and interpreted for statewide consistency. Other subjects would vary.

Have a website listing people's names and charges who have been cited for game violations.

Encourage employees to get out and talk with the people. Have a laugh with them

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: Out back] #2943303
11/02/19 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Additional regulations can be enacted by any county. Your county commission has the legal authority to add or amend game regulations.

Duh hell???

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: centralala] #2944866
11/04/19 12:00 PM
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How bout this... Chucky needs to produce a report that says the more deer you shoot in a season... the less you have the following season.

As far as Barbour county's antler restrictions are concerned you save a spike by letting him walk and the next season it gets killed as a still immature deer it just has the beginnings of a decent rack.

That's about all there is to this whole thing.

Shoot small bucks and you won't have any big bucks. Ever. Don't shoot one.... and your neighbor will probably kill it for you as his/her 6th buck they have shot this season. Shoot a doe and have 2-3 less deer the next season and likely one less buck you will get to blast as a basket rack. Repeat the process.

Simple. Nobody should need a report to tell them what is common sense.

Chuck running around like a prick arguing over stuff... this is nothing more than a peeing match between someone who is about 100% Stupid and a whole lot of people (thousands) much more stupid than him.


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Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: centralala] #2946173
11/05/19 01:58 PM
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Restrictions on bucks only means more people will shoot does. More does killed means less deer. Less deer means less bucks

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: centralala] #2946180
11/05/19 02:05 PM
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Unpopular opinion but it's mine so I'll voice it. I wish the state would go back to two weeks of doe days and set antler restrictions for the entire state. I'm tired of having to drive hours to find a decent population of deer to hunt. Damn coosa county rednecks shoot everything that moves and brag about killing all three of their bucks a year that might have a total of 50" of bone between all three of them.

Oh and get rid of that damn baiting bill while they're at it too!

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: hawndog] #2946197
11/05/19 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hawndog
Restrictions on bucks only means more people will shoot does. More does killed means less deer. Less deer means less bucks


You won't convince anyone of this, I assure you. It's been gospel for 30+ years now. "Killing does is good."

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: NightHunter] #2946199
11/05/19 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NightHunter
That answers my question.

Unless things have changed 99% of information goes through or has to be approved by Montgomery.

To a finer point, knowing anything produced for widespread consumption has to be approved through Montgomery and we have established that you have no trust in that process, should the DCNR staff even bother with putting that kind of information together? Will it take a complete overhaul of Montgomery, meaning all the way down to district/program supervisors before you will take stock in anything produced by the DCNR?

Ultimately the Commissioner is in charge but he takes direction from the Governor. The governor takes heat from senators, congressmen, county/city officials and lobbyists.

Day to day DCNR operations are really handled by the Chiefs and Assistant Chiefs.

I guess my question is, how would you fix this? I mean real world answers. Not hire someone from ALDEER to clean house and take over. There’s a lot of moving parts and educational requirements to hold DCNR positions.

Where would you as a member of the hunting public suggest start to right the course.


I would be more apt to believe raw numbers and draw my own conclusions than what I read in a report.

The only way I know to fix trust issues is total honesty over a long period of time, period.

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: Coosa1] #2946200
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Originally Posted by Coosa1
Unpopular opinion but it's mine so I'll voice it. I wish the state would go back to two weeks of doe days and set antler restrictions for the entire state. I'm tired of having to drive hours to find a decent population of deer to hunt. Damn coosa county rednecks shoot everything that moves and brag about killing all three of their bucks a year that might have a total of 50" of bone between all three of them.

Oh and get rid of that damn baiting bill while they're at it too!


You have to drive hours from Coosa County? Drive south or southeast just a little bit and you've got the best hunting in the state. It may not be in your literal back yard, but it's not like you're in Marshall county or something.

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Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: Coosa1] #2946842
11/05/19 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Coosa1
Unpopular opinion but it's mine so I'll voice it. I wish the state would go back to two weeks of doe days and set antler restrictions for the entire state. I'm tired of having to drive hours to find a decent population of deer to hunt. Damn coosa county rednecks shoot everything that moves and brag about killing all three of their bucks a year that might have a total of 50" of bone between all three of them.

Oh and get rid of that damn baiting bill while they're at it too!

It’s not as unpopular as you think. In the part of Fayette County I hunt I would love a much reduced doe season. (We have only killed 2 in 5 years on our lease. Our population, this year, is actually really good. Just 2-3 years of reducing doe days would make a huge difference in some parts of the state

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: centralala] #2946870
11/05/19 10:28 PM
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Antler restrictions stats wide would be stupid. Doe restrictions would make a little more sense I guess

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: centralala] #2946998
11/06/19 01:05 AM
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This is why I say antler restrictions are stupid

Re: Barbour Co. experiment?? [Re: centralala] #2950157
11/08/19 09:24 PM
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The Boyd store is now closed up . The old man had a stroke awhile back and his boy put up chicken houses . You are right though . Some dam fine bucks are on that wall of memories. Johnny would not put up the current years bucks He would post them up the year after harvest. There’s still some bigguns runnin around here ,You just have to be patient and let the younguns walk.

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