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Rye grass got to go.
#2937018
10/26/19 05:31 PM
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My best field at the house is being overtaken now. Planted some 8-10 years ago and it’s kind of grown since. It was in a small wet area till now but it’s got to go this year. How do y’all combat it?
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/26/19 07:06 PM
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I’m thinking spray cleth in spring before it goes to seed and spred elbon so I still get my grass component for my T/M.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/26/19 09:15 PM
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Easy. Only plant wheat along with broadleafs and spray with Axial XL. Yes, it's around $350 per 2.5gal but it only takes one pint per acre. You can fight it all you want in the spring but you will never win.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/26/19 09:24 PM
10/26/19 09:24 PM
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257wbymag
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Look at my man JohnG with some down right straight up good label advice. He’s right on.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/26/19 09:54 PM
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If you want to give it a shot turkey, I will be happy to send you a little. It's labeled for use on wheat and barley, have no idea what it will do to cereal rye.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/26/19 09:57 PM
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It will not hurt cereal rye one bit. We use it all the time
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/27/19 07:34 AM
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I hate the stuff. I had it bad several years ago. I nuked it with hot gly in late spring , then again in August . Did the trick , you have to get it early , before it puts on seed.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/27/19 10:31 AM
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My field is planted in wheat, rye and triticale plus clover. Would all those be good with that? It’s only a half acre field with probably only 60% having it this year.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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10/27/19 10:53 AM
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Go for it, better than having a mat of green toothpicks suppressing what you planted. PM me a physical address and I will UPS 6oz to you when I get back from the camp on Wednesday. Y'll be able to hit that with a spot sprayer at 3/4 oz per gallon of water. Don't look for fast results, it takes over a week for the slow death to start.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/29/19 06:33 AM
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I’m over planting all my plots in Marshall and crimson every year. 🤣🤣
I like me some ryegrass.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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10/29/19 08:31 AM
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Easy. Only plant wheat along with broadleafs and spray with Axial XL. Yes, it's around $350 per 2.5gal but it only takes one pint per acre. You can fight it all you want in the spring but you will never win. Only kills grass? Work on cogon grass patch I wonder?
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/29/19 11:34 AM
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And just a side note we have axial resistance in Italian ryegrass up here in the Tn valley
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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10/29/19 03:31 PM
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I thought Marshall ryegrass is an annual - that is - doesn't come up again. Did you plant some other kind? An annual with about a bazillion seeds that lay there until you're not looking and then germinate after you plant the stuff you want
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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10/29/19 05:07 PM
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All ryegrass is a perennial. Marshall included
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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10/29/19 05:46 PM
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All ryegrass is a perennial. Marshall included Whats the deal with the "perennial rye" that you see that costs three times as much? Same stuff?
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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10/29/19 08:23 PM
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I thought Marshall ryegrass is an annual - that is - doesn't come up again. Did you plant some other kind? An annual with about a bazillion seeds that lay there until you're not looking and then germinate after you plant the stuff you want Yep, ryegrass is the devil.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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10/29/19 08:32 PM
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ESP if you’re a wheat farmer
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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10/29/19 10:47 PM
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Mine will walk right through the worst area to get to the good grasses.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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11/02/19 11:14 PM
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All ryegrass is a perennial. Marshall included Nope. Ryegrasses can be annual, biennial, or perennial. Most of what we see on roadsides is annual.
If you do the things you need to do when you need to do them then someday you can do the things you want to do when you want to do them.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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11/03/19 09:41 AM
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All ryegrass is a perennial. Marshall included Nope. Ryegrasses can be annual, biennial, or perennial. Most of what we see on roadsides is annual. Interesting, I learned something. Please explain what the difference is in Rye and Ryegrass.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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11/03/19 11:35 AM
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All ryegrass is a perennial. Marshall included Nope. Ryegrasses can be annual, biennial, or perennial. Most of what we see on roadsides is annual. Interesting, I learned something. Please explain what the difference is in Rye and Ryegrass. In a nutshell, rye is a cereal grain and ryegrass is a cool-season forage grass. That’s not to say rye cannot be used as a forage grass, but it isn’t as desirable for that use as ryegrass is. I’m speaking strictly for cattle here. Deer will eat both. Also, ryegrass is a Lolium species and rye is in the genus Secale.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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11/03/19 12:46 PM
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I wasn’t referring to cereal rye.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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11/03/19 06:31 PM
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I guess they shouldn't be allowed to advertise it as annual, then. Every plant replicates. Every plant makes seeds. That doesn’t make it a perennial.
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11/03/19 07:59 PM
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All ryegrass is a perennial. Marshall included Nope. Ryegrasses can be annual, biennial, or perennial. Most of what we see on roadsides is annual. Interesting, I learned something. Please explain what the difference is in Rye and Ryegrass. In a nutshell, rye is a cereal grain and ryegrass is a cool-season forage grass. That’s not to say rye cannot be used as a forage grass, but it isn’t as desirable for that use as ryegrass is. I’m speaking strictly for cattle here. Deer will eat both. Also, ryegrass is a Lolium species and rye is in the genus Secale. To the uneducated , sounds like one of them shouldn't be called Rye. I know it can be confusing . You have to watch the goof balls at the Co-op , you tell them Cereal Rye they may load Rye grass in your truck and vice versa.
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Re: Rye grass got to go.
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11/03/19 08:24 PM
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I've been planting food plots for around 40 years with a lot of trial and error involved. I know what works best for me but I still try fields or parts of fields to continue trying something new. I also know sometimes rye grass is the ONLY option. There are some members on here that I planted about 100 acres of rye grass where they hunt or at least part of what they hunt this year and years in the past. The soil PH is about 7.0 naturally. About 15" down there is a solid layer of limestone. I'm not talking a bunch of rocks. I'm talking like ONE huge rock about 12" thick covering hundreds of acres. When the winter rains start it saturates that 15" of soil fairly quick. The water can't go down because of the rock. So, there are MONTHS of wet, REALLY wet, soil. The only products that has survived these conditions has been rye grass, Chickasaw clover, and Berseem clover. And deer are killed on these fields. I think your talking about Jed’s farm. A few seasons ago we had a 20 acre field planted in Nelson ryegrass and it had 2 140”+ bucks killed off it. We would see anywhere between 20-30 deer per afternoon and 5-8 would be bucks. They would be grazing at 3:00 when we went to the field and would still be in the field at dark. The deer would walk across our food plots to eat the Nelson Ryegrass.
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11/03/19 08:51 PM
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I've been planting food plots for around 40 years with a lot of trial and error involved. I know what works best for me but I still try fields or parts of fields to continue trying something new. I also know sometimes rye grass is the ONLY option. There are some members on here that I planted about 100 acres of rye grass where they hunt or at least part of what they hunt this year and years in the past. The soil PH is about 7.0 naturally. About 15" down there is a solid layer of limestone. I'm not talking a bunch of rocks. I'm talking like ONE huge rock about 12" thick covering hundreds of acres. When the winter rains start it saturates that 15" of soil fairly quick. The water can't go down because of the rock. So, there are MONTHS of wet, REALLY wet, soil. The only products that has survived these conditions has been rye grass, Chickasaw clover, and Berseem clover. And deer are killed on these fields. I think your talking about Jed’s farm. A few seasons ago we had a 20 acre field planted in Nelson ryegrass and it had 2 140”+ bucks killed off it. We would see anywhere between 20-30 deer per afternoon and 5-8 would be bucks. They would be grazing at 3:00 when we went to the field and would still be in the field at dark. The deer would walk across our food plots to eat the Nelson Ryegrass. Yes. I planted the field beside the trailer is all I recall planting on that side of the road. Saw the most fawns I seen down there this year. Also found 2 really nice sheds this spring where that Nelson grass was planted a couple of years ago. NOTHING went right planting this year from flat tires, seed not flowing, busted hydraulic lines,etc. I'm ashamed to be associated with the work that I did. Probably will look terrible.
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Thanks John got it today.
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11/05/19 01:51 PM
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I've been planting food plots for around 40 years with a lot of trial and error involved. I know what works best for me but I still try fields or parts of fields to continue trying something new. I also know sometimes rye grass is the ONLY option. There are some members on here that I planted about 100 acres of rye grass where they hunt or at least part of what they hunt this year and years in the past. The soil PH is about 7.0 naturally. About 15" down there is a solid layer of limestone. I'm not talking a bunch of rocks. I'm talking like ONE huge rock about 12" thick covering hundreds of acres. When the winter rains start it saturates that 15" of soil fairly quick. The water can't go down because of the rock. So, there are MONTHS of wet, REALLY wet, soil. The only products that has survived these conditions has been rye grass, Chickasaw clover, and Berseem clover. And deer are killed on these fields. ^^^This is what I deal with in Sumter county.^^^ The mud there is very difficult. Like much in nature you have to learn to respect it. I have places where no motorized vehicle could cross it. Hell its about impossible to do in rubber boots. Most of our "roads" have ryegrass spread on them to hold the soil together enough it can be walked across. I have one field that has a pH of 7.9. There isnt much that will grow there except turnips.
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