If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Oh my....so sad to hear this. I hope the sunofabitch that hurt this little girl gets to suffer 10,000 times on earth what she did and then the Lord will deal the rest of the punishment.
This is the way I was afraid it would end. Takes a animal to do such a cowardly act. Evil is showing its ugly head more and more these days. Its what happens when God is removed from from so many avenues of peoples lives. Praying for the family and friends.
Free men aren't equal and equal men aren't free! I choose to defend my freedom!
Just shows what kind of monsters our society is producing. They should just dig a hole and drop him n and then fill it. No trial, no discussion, just be done with it.
There is some evil in this world I just can't comprehend. Hog tie the POS who did this to Cupcake and give the father a pair of pliers and a blow torch.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Satan is working overtime. The evil POS subhumans that did this need to be tortured for weeks as they slowly die.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
Hate to hear this...i was expecting her to be found alive
Jawbone and other LEO’s on here know more about this and the time frame of finding a kidnap child safe but I had a bad feeling after a couple of days. But was praying for the best.
How could an attorney represent people like this? I could never do it. The lord has her now.
Because we live in a country where people are innocent until proven guilty. Just because the police say someone is guilty or arrest someone doesn’t mean they are. Every person is entitled under our constitution to a defense and a trial if they want it. If they are guilty, the. They will plead guilty or be convicted and most likely get the death penalty.
Didn't they show a video of two kids playing together and someone walking up to them, and then walking away with them? If so where did the other child go?
Didn't they show a video of two kids playing together and someone walking up to them, and then walking away with them? If so where did the other child go?
I have wondered the same thing. I guess that child turned around.
He did before they charged him with the kidnapping and murder. At that point they didn’t have enough evidence to charge him. He was arrested again today and will be held without bail.
Didn't they show a video of two kids playing together and someone walking up to them, and then walking away with them? If so where did the other child go?
I have wondered the same thing. I guess that child turned around.
I thought the same thing tto. Both children followed the man. On a sign I saw on the interstate today the description of the deceased child said 3 yr old pink shirt 70 lbs. Those kids in the video were no where close to 70 lbs, that would be a huge 3 yr old.
Didn't they show a video of two kids playing together and someone walking up to them, and then walking away with them? If so where did the other child go?
I have wondered the same thing. I guess that child turned around.
I thought the same thing tto. Both children followed the man. On a sign I saw on the interstate today the description of the deceased child said 3 yr old pink shirt 70 lbs. Those kids in the video were no where close to 70 lbs, that would be a huge 3 yr old.
70 pounds is what my son weighed in 2nd grade and he is a big kid.
They got scared as soon as the governor put up the 5k reward. They were scared someone was going to turn them in. They should release the pos's in the neighborhood and let them get the same treatment. Poor little girl. May God hold you in his hands I know there will be a special place at the Devil's table for ALL those involved. Prayers for the family. Damn, just damn. Hold your children close.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Didn't they show a video of two kids playing together and someone walking up to them, and then walking away with them? If so where did the other child go?
I have wondered the same thing. I guess that child turned around.
I thought the same thing tto. Both children followed the man. On a sign I saw on the interstate today the description of the deceased child said 3 yr old pink shirt 70 lbs. Those kids in the video were no where close to 70 lbs, that would be a huge 3 yr old.
70 pounds is what my son weighed in 2nd grade and he is a big kid.
My kids are 8 and weigh 50. I just thought it was odd after watching the kids in that video they released
Real easy for you to say when you make money off of it. I bet you don't lose any sleep over what you do. And just like politicians you use skewed percentages to justify it. I have been on here a long time, and listened to you're justifications.But when you use technicalities in a system that is so scared of racism, bigotry, constitutional rights, and the basic system of right and wrong when you know that a three year old baby was thrown away as trash.... I look forward to your next recommendation on a restaurant in Birmingham or whatever. I have changed occupations due to this kind of thing, so don't lecture me on it is what it is BS
With politics being a career, a swamp is the obvious consequence
Real easy for you to say when you make money off of it. I bet you don't lose any sleep over what you do. And just like politicians you use skewed percentages to justify it. I have been on here a long time, and listened to you're justifications.But when you use technicalities in a system that is so scared of racism, bigotry, constitutional rights, and the basic system of right and wrong when you know that a three year old baby was thrown away as trash.... I look forward to your next recommendation on a restaurant in Birmingham or whatever. I have changed occupations due to this kind of thing, so don't lecture me on it is what it is BS
I don’t lose sleep over my job. I will not apologize for supporting the constitutional rights of people. I have never excused someone’s behavior or crimes on here or anywhere else. But, just like you would be due, every person has due process rights. If you don’t like the way our constitution is set up, that is one you.
What a heartbreaking outcome - my wife and I prayed for that little angel to be safe. May God bless and give some measure of peace and comfort to the family.
"The struggle you're in today, is developing the strength you need for tomorrow."
I thought the same thing tto. Both children followed the man. On a sign I saw on the interstate today the description of the deceased child said 3 yr old pink shirt 70 lbs. Those kids in the video were no where close to 70 lbs, that would be a huge 3 yr old.[/quote] 70 pounds is what my son weighed in 2nd grade and he is a big kid. [/quote] My kids are 8 and weigh 50. I just thought it was odd after watching the kids in that video they released[/quote]
The parents had to be the ones that gave the weight to the police. The fact that they didn't have a clue about how much their daughter weighed is very telling to me. I mean, it isn't even close. Some dumb sheriff or cop should have said that there is no way that this child was 60 or 70 lbs. This is just a sad situation with too much stupid and too much evil involved.
My heart goes out to the family of this baby. No one, especially a child, should ever experience what this on did. Hope God lets her sleep peacefully tonight.
Ill be interested to see what comes out in the next few days, from what ive been hearing they let her go to a party but no one at the party remembers her being there, the party was at night in an apartment complex parking lot supposedly. The dad set up a go fund me the very next day to cover "expenses" even though there were none. and numerous other things. everything about this case and parents seems fishy. their either in on it or the most negligent parents ive ever seen
WTF do you mean please explain. This always happens on this forum you have people who live the liberal ideology and believe the future is the better way. The real matter as you say is a couple of piece of shucks decided when this persons life should end. and then it should be explained by liberalism or some sort of queer way of viewing the world. Morris. The real matter is a three year old died you piece of …. and someone threw her away as if she was a twice baked potato.
With politics being a career, a swamp is the obvious consequence
He did before they charged him with the kidnapping and murder. At that point they didn’t have enough evidence to charge him. He was arrested again today and will be held without bail.
it was pretty cut and dry he was the one that abducted her from what I’ve seen. How could they let him go on bond. They should have started breaking bones until that MF told them them where she was my opinion. Yea I know the laws so don’t give me that crap. This SOB needs to hang in the town square for a week as an example.
The real matter is a three year old died you piece of …. and someone threw her away as if she was a twice baked potato.
Yes exactly why I started this thread. I thought I read where you were attacking Scott’s profession which wasn’t right. If not void my comment and move on.
WTF do you mean please explain. This always happens on this forum you have people who live the liberal ideology and believe the future is the better way. The real matter as you say is a couple of piece of shucks decided when this persons life should end. and then it should be explained by liberalism or some sort of queer way of viewing the world. Morris. The real matter is a three year old died you piece of …. and someone threw her away as if she was a twice baked potato.
Everyone on this thread has stated what happened was terrible and truly evil. And EVERYONE on this thread has said they hope the sorry sick bastards who did this get what they deserve. YOU are the one trying to pick a fight with people. YOU need to calm down
The bickering needs to stop or ill lock this thread myself
Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Ill be interested to see what comes out in the next few days, from what ive been hearing they let her go to a party but no one at the party remembers her being there, the party was at night in an apartment complex parking lot supposedly. The dad set up a go fund me the very next day to cover "expenses" even though there were none. and numerous other things. everything about this case and parents seems fishy. their either in on it or the most negligent parents ive ever seen
These are a lot of questions I have been asking since the beginning.
WTF do you mean please explain. This always happens on this forum you have people who live the liberal ideology and believe the future is the better way. The real matter as you say is a couple of piece of shucks decided when this persons life should end. and then it should be explained by liberalism or some sort of queer way of viewing the world. Morris. The real matter is a three year old died you piece of …. and someone threw her away as if she was a twice baked potato.
Everyone on this thread has stated what happened was terrible and truly evil. And EVERYONE on this thread has said they hope the sorry sick bastards who did this get what they deserve. YOU are the one trying to pick a fight with people. YOU need to calm down
Exactly. Is thirtyotsix just drunk, mentally impaired, a deliberate troll, or just unable to actually read other peoples posts? Because none of what he's posting makes any sense in the context of this thread. Everyone has basically said that the guilty party should get the maximum punishment for such a horrible crime. In other words "Lighten UP Francis"
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
Because I've done it before, you have to say "Outstanding Job" to the investigator/Officer or whoever it was that got the description of the vehicle from the child witness that was detailed enough to give identifying information that led to them finding the vehicle which was probably the first big break in the case.
If y'all will indulge me for a minute, I will tell you of a similar case I had. When I was a rookie we responded to a call of a child being raped behind a store. The detective at that time, Al Krunosky, worked it and got a confession from James Henry Bibby. He was sentenced to ten years but didn't do the full ten. Al moved on a few years later and I took his job working child victimization cases. One Saturday morning I was called out on a child being kidnapped from a grocery store by her house. She was led away with the promise of a few dollars if she helped wash his car (like a 4 year old will be a lot of help). Anyways the 5 year with her didn't go. I interviewed her and she described the car as old and had a streak down the side. She was adamant that the guy had snakes on his feet. Now that was a puzzler to me, but I recorder her saying it and noted it in my notes even though I had no idea of the relevance at that time. I put out a BOLO for an old car with a streak down its side, again not really knowing the relevance of that. In the meantime the child came home, roughed up and torn vaginally, but alive. We all went to the hospital and she was treated and before I could get home Sgt. Anita Barlow saw an old car covered in primer but with a streak painted down its side as if they were testing a color. She stopped it and called me and I immediately went to the scene. The driver was James Henry Bibby and when we got him out of the car, guess what he was wearing? Some pretty Snake skin boots. Long story shorter, we had him on camera in the store, and the other child IDed him and the car, so we arrested him. His seman was later positively IDed from the Rape kit. He had been released exactly one year to the day for the first Rape when he committed this one. He refused to give a statement and I got a Search Warrant for his house. One of the things I found and seized was his "Diploma" for completing Alabama's Sexual Offender's program. Bibby surprised us all on his first appearance in Circuit court and told the judge he was guilty (A Blind Plea). Judge Meigs looked a little confused and Bibby's lawyer, Billy Faile, a good lawyer and former DA shrugged his shoulders and told the judge that he advised otherwise. Judge Meigs said "Well, OK, I sentence you to Life." About 5 years later Bibby wrote me a letter asking if he could have his boots back? I turned that over to the DA and he said, "No, as long as he is in prison, there could be a chance at an appeal, so we'll keep the evidence". As both the times he got caught he was a little more brutal we knew that eventually, probably his next one, he will kill the child. I'm prepared, as long as I live, to testify before the Parole Board as to the pattern of him becoming more violent in his efforts to prevent the little girls from being able to ID him. Last I looked, he was still in prison and hadn't been up for Parole yet. I seriously doubt they will ever let him out. I'm just thankful that that little girl that they called Pudding, didn't end up like cupcake.
This memory prompted me to check up on Mr. Bibby. I am confident that he will never see free daylight again even though he is eligible for parole in 2024.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Kamille McKinney
[Re: Morris]
#2933397 10/23/1901:23 AM10/23/1901:23 AM
Horrible, absolutely horrible and I can't imagine a worse nightmare for both that child and her parents.
Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
Re: Kamille McKinney
[Re: Morris]
#2933404 10/23/1905:01 AM10/23/1905:01 AM
For me, there are a lot of unanswered questions about the parents. Did they owe a debt to someone? Did they want party money and sold her? I believe the parents are, at the least, criminally negligent in this situation. I hope everyone found guilty of anything in this case gets life or the death penalty. I would like for them to suffer some too.
Last edited by Booger; 10/23/1905:31 AM.
GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Kamille McKinney
[Re: Morris]
#2933420 10/23/1905:45 AM10/23/1905:45 AM
I was with the BPD and BFD assisting in a search and there is a lot more to the story not being told publicly. I see a lot of things but it's really heartbreaking when a child is involved. It's a shame what little value people have for other peoples' lives.
For me, there are a lot of unanswered questions about the parents. Did they owe a debt to someone? Did they want party money and sold her? I believe the parents are, at the least, criminally negligent in this situation. I hope everyone found guilty of anything in this case gets life or the death penalty. I would like for them to suffer some too.
It is very, very rare for a child to be abducted by a stranger. If she was molested, as I suspect she was, it is even rarer to have a stranger be the offender. It happens occasionally, but you may be right that there is a family connection the police haven't found yet. That would not surprise me at all, but then again, nothing about cases like this can surprise me.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Kamille McKinney
[Re: Morris]
#2933447 10/23/1906:47 AM10/23/1906:47 AM
Ill be interested to see what comes out in the next few days, from what ive been hearing they let her go to a party but no one at the party remembers her being there, the party was at night in an apartment complex parking lot supposedly. The dad set up a go fund me the very next day to cover "expenses" even though there were none. and numerous other things. everything about this case and parents seems fishy. their either in on it or the most negligent parents ive ever seen
My secretary, who once lived in Tom Brown Village when she was younger, has raised the same issues with me. The first thing she said was, who has a kid’s birthday party at 8? The issue with the dad and the go fund me is really weird.
In the back of my mind, I have this idea that whoever took her out the body where it was found because it was close to the apartment where the first suspect (the guy the have charged) lived. If it was the “dad” (I’ve heard he isn’t actually the father), putting the body there would sure get suspicion off you.
Re: Kamille McKinney
[Re: Morris]
#2933470 10/23/1907:13 AM10/23/1907:13 AM
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
If both suspects were charged with capital murder, does that mean neither one admitted to it?
That doesn’t mean either said a thing. Multiple people can be charged with the same crime.
Can they both be convicted of it?
Absolutely. If they both participated in the kidnapping and murder. I’ve been involved in cases where there were as many as 6 people charged and convicted/plead guilty in the same murder.
However, I agree with Jawbone. I would bet the female agrees to tell everything she knows and testify against the male and ends up with a plea to murder and/or kidnapping with a 20-30 year sentence.
Re: Kamille McKinney
[Re: Morris]
#2933535 10/23/1908:20 AM10/23/1908:20 AM
As a Christian I am to believe in God's justice for all those who sinned (heaven help me)
Rev 20:11-12 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
But I find some since of justice in this video and my flesh hopes who ever hurt that little girl faces the same.
Last edited by jmudler; 10/23/1908:21 AM.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Real easy for you to say when you make money off of it. I bet you don't lose any sleep over what you do. And just like politicians you use skewed percentages to justify it. I have been on here a long time, and listened to you're justifications.But when you use technicalities in a system that is so scared of racism, bigotry, constitutional rights, and the basic system of right and wrong when you know that a three year old baby was thrown away as trash.... I look forward to your next recommendation on a restaurant in Birmingham or whatever. I have changed occupations due to this kind of thing, so don't lecture me on it is what it is BS
I don’t lose sleep over my job. I will not apologize for supporting the constitutional rights of people. I have never excused someone’s behavior or crimes on here or anywhere else. But, just like you would be due, every person has due process rights. If you don’t like the way our constitution is set up, that is one you.
Because I've done it before, you have to say "Outstanding Job" to the investigator/Officer or whoever it was that got the description of the vehicle from the child witness that was detailed enough to give identifying information that led to them finding the vehicle which was probably the first big break in the case. If y'all will indulge me for a minute, I will tell you of a similar case I had. When I was a rookie we responded to a call of a child being raped behind a store. The detective at that time, Al Krunosky, worked it and got a confession from James Henry Bibby. He was sentenced to ten years but didn't do the full ten. Al moved on a few years later and I took his job working child victimization cases. One Saturday morning I was called out on a child being kidnapped from a grocery store by her house. She was led away with the promise of a few dollars if she helped wash his car (like a 4 year old will be a lot of help). Anyways the 5 year with her didn't go. I interviewed her and she described the car as old and had a streak down the side. She was adamant that the guy had snakes on his feet. Now that was a puzzler to me, but I recorder her saying it and noted it in my notes even though I had no idea of the relevance at that time. I put out a BOLO for an old car with a streak down its side, again not really knowing the relevance of that. In the meantime the child came home, roughed up and torn vaginally, but alive. We all went to the hospital and she was treated and before I could get home Sgt. Anita Barlow saw an old car covered in primer but with a streak painted down its side as if they were testing a color. She stopped it and called me and I immediately went to the scene. The driver was James Henry Bibby and when we got him out of the car, guess what he was wearing? Some pretty Snake skin boots. Long story shorter, we had him on camera in the store, and the other child IDed him and the car, so we arrested him. His seman was later positively IDed from the Rape kit. He had been released exactly one year to the day for the first Rape when he committed this one. He refused to give a statement and I got a Search Warrant for his house. One of the things I found and seized was his "Diploma" for completing Alabama's Sexual Offender's program. Bibby surprised us all on his first appearance in Circuit court and told the judge he was guilty (A Blind Plea). Judge Meigs looked a little confused and Bibby's lawyer, Billy Faile, a good lawyer and former DA shrugged his shoulders and told the judge that he advised otherwise. Judge Meigs said "Well, OK, I sentence you to Life." About 5 years later Bibby wrote me a letter asking if he could have his boots back? I turned that over to the DA and he said, "No, as long as he is in prison, there could be a chance at an appeal, so we'll keep the evidence". As both the times he got caught he was a little more brutal we knew that eventually, probably his next one, he will kill the child. I'm prepared, as long as I live, to testify before the Parole Board as to the pattern of him becoming more violent in his efforts to prevent the little girls from being able to ID him. Last I looked, he was still in prison and hadn't been up for Parole yet. I seriously doubt they will ever let him out. I'm just thankful that that little girl that they called Pudding, didn't end up like cupcake.
WHY IS RAPE THE MOST UNDERPUNISHED CRIME OF OUR DAY AND AGE???
You seen it first hand, you cant change these people, you cant revers pedophilia, prison most times probably makes them worse and smarter about it. I support way stricter punishments on those who rape/sexually torture a child or any age person up to the death penalty. AL law has minimum sentence at 10 years in first degree rape and sexual torture. Rape especially of younger children is by far the most detrimental to our long term existence as a society. The victims never fully recover and it snowballs overtime into hearing about this kind of thing every other week and I'm sick of it! What can they do to fix this in AL? The dang chemical castration bs aint worth a dang if its not permanent and can even be reversed! Alabama needs to really set the standard for the nation and let people know that if you are proven guilty of rape or sexually abuse of a child that we will fry you in the electric chair if you survive a year in general population.
I hate if for little Cupcake and i have followed her story from the beginning and prayed for that baby every single day, I've got young daughters about her age myself so this news really hit hard. My mind has wondered into some dark places since i heard the news last night, the guy having kiddy porn on his phone and the women being charged with kidnapping previously, the car with the same exact make model and color, it was all right there and lined up perfectly, i think they let him bond out just so they could keep him under 24 hour surveillance in hopes he would lead them to her. With the dudes pending charges when he was released it hurts me to imagine what that baby went through before she was killed. Then to just toss her away like she was nothing, like she was just a bag of garbage just burns me even more. I've been trying not to think about the pain she endured but trying to imagine the day she is having today alive and well in heaven with our Lord Jesus, no more dirty old projects but mansions and a crystal sea and streets of gold!!! RIP Cupcake, fly high baby girl!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hunt in Africa every other year, and the Professional Hunter I hunt with has an interesting theory. He feels that the reason for most black-on-black violence is that they have a genetic lack of empathy. He is not a racist, and is in fact a devoted Christian. We donate a good deal of game meat to the local Himba Orphanage.
Rumor is, daddy owed a bunch of money to guy charged. Drugs or something. Who knows?
Internet is horrible these days, so who knows what is true? Something doesn't seem right about any of this.
If you search the “native” part of facebook, you’ll find where supposedly he robbed a drug dealer. That drug dealer gave him an ultimatum, saying he had better pay him back or he’d never see his daughter again. IF THATS TRUE, this little girl is right where she needs to be. In God’s arms and not with that “family”.
Originally Posted by BPS
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
The news tonight said this was the 2nd kidnapping case that woman was involved in. I pray that the other prisoners take these 2 out real soon after they're incarcerated.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
The news tonight said this was the 2nd kidnapping case that woman was involved in. I pray that the other prisoners take these 2 out real soon after they're incarcerated.
The other one was her taking her kids back from DHR custody at a day care.
Re: Kamille McKinney
[Re: Morris]
#2934317 10/24/1912:27 AM10/24/1912:27 AM
I believe I would have been slow to react as a deputy in the video. Might have had to go on break. I mean what parent doesn't look after their kids? I was somewhere close by to mine all the time, never out of eyesight.
Re: Kamille McKinney
[Re: jawbone]
#2934320 10/24/1901:25 AM10/24/1901:25 AM