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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924328
10/11/19 04:19 PM
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I lucked up and got my uncle's ol colt m1991 a1 series 80. I haven't shot it yet. But I like it. I mit change the sights, but thats it.


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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924336
10/11/19 04:41 PM
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Post up a pic


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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924353
10/11/19 05:08 PM
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I handloaded some 230gr XTPs in my 1944 M1911A1 and it feeds them fine.

Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924395
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Only accurate rifles are interesting.
Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924407
10/11/19 06:37 PM
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I’m a fan of Hornady Critical Defense.


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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924533
10/11/19 08:47 PM
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I give grandad’s 1911 nothing but ball ammo. Loves it.


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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924539
10/11/19 08:54 PM
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That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt!


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Re: 45 acp [Re: KHOOKS] #2924584
10/11/19 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KHOOKS
230 gr speer gold dots


I'd stay away from the 230 grain Gold Dots. I've personally seen them fail in two different shootings. Both involved multiple hits to areas in the upper torso, that should have had the desired result. Neither suspect was immediately stopped and the first caused significant damage after receiving three solid hits and one peripheral hit. In the second shooting, the involved officer was shot and killed, though I am not positive if the officer or offender fired first. The bad guy was hit twice in the upper torso and is now serving a life sentence. I realize my sample size is small, but two failures in a row is enough for me to go with another round. I'll stick with the HST's.

Re: 45 acp [Re: BCLC] #2924606
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Originally Posted by BCLC
That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt!

Thank you, I was pretty young when he got it. It was his baby. I feel honored that he let me get it. The Browning hp was my dad's. So both of them have sentimental value to me. They were special to those 2 men because that's what they used in the military (not those exact guns). My uncle in us military and my dad in the British military.

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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924611
10/11/19 09:55 PM
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Not picking on you Kp but Speer gold dots are issued by Lapd&NYPD that's probably 50,000 officers not including federal branches and who knows how many small departments. I've loaded Speer GD's since 1999 and I've yet to separate one using standard normal pressure loads. Yes I "broke" a .357 outta a .35 Remington but that was planned. Sanow&Marshall Massad Ayoob John Farnum Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch Roy Huntingdon of American Handgunner have never written of GD "failure". Handguns aren't rifles which is why we tote them.


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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924632
10/11/19 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
Originally Posted by BCLC
That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt!

Thank you, I was pretty young when he got it. It was his baby. I feel honored that he let me get it. The Browning hp was my dad's. So both of them have sentimental value to me. They were special to those 2 men because that's what they used in the military (not those exact guns). My uncle in us military and my dad in the British military.

They do make a mighty fine pair. thumbup


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Re: 45 acp [Re: dave260rem!] #2924642
10/11/19 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dave260rem!
Not picking on you Kp but Speer gold dots are issued by Lapd&NYPD that's probably 50,000 officers not including federal branches and who knows how many small departments. I've loaded Speer GD's since 1999 and I've yet to separate one using standard normal pressure loads. Yes I "broke" a .357 outta a .35 Remington but that was planned. Sanow&Marshall Massad Ayoob John Farnum Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch Roy Huntingdon of American Handgunner have never written of GD "failure". Handguns aren't rifles which is why we tote them.


The failures weren't due to separation, but lack of adequate penetration. As I said, my sample size was very small, but large enough for me to make professional decisions for my department and personal decisions for me. We stopped carrying them after the second failure. I'm also familiar with the processes larger federal and municipal departments use for purchasing. Actual field performance is difficult to measure when listing requirements in Request for Proposal or Request for Quote documents and agreements used during the purchasing process. So, it doesn't surprise me that LA and NY use Gold Dots as they probably met the standards (bullet type, weight, and velocity requirements) listed in the RFP or RFQ.

Deciding which ammo to trust is a personal decision, use what you're comfortable with.

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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924647
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Anything. It’s a 45. Once they realize it’s a 45, bad guys just fall over. LOL

But seriously, even ball works defensively in a 45 ACP...maybe good hollow points are better, but anything 200+ grains and -45 wide, is pretty effective.

Also, no, it doesn’t penetrate well.... it’s a big, slow chunk of plated lead that’ll bounce off of lots of things.....hardwood stumps, doors, thick glass....seen it. Great for soft tissue. Not the best at getting through anything hard to get there or staying on a straight line if it does get through. Just pick a quality HP load that shoots good in your gun, and don’t sweat if it’s a gold dot or hydra shock or critical defense.

Re: 45 acp [Re: jb20] #2924657
10/11/19 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jb20
I always alternate hornady critical defense and a heavy full metal jacket in my clips


What's a clip? 🤭


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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924659
10/11/19 11:01 PM
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I rarely carry my 45s but when i do it's Black Hills 230 HP or Hornady 230 XTP.


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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924662
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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
Originally Posted by BCLC
That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt!

Thank you, I was pretty young when he got it. It was his baby. I feel honored that he let me get it. The Browning hp was my dad's. So both of them have sentimental value to me. They were special to those 2 men because that's what they used in the military (not those exact guns). My uncle in us military and my dad in the British military.


Congrats! But he should've put a little oil on his baby from time to time 😀


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Re: 45 acp [Re: 3toe] #2924670
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Originally Posted by 3toe
Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Winchester Ranger T is the old reliable and notorious Black Talon ammo without the black coating. It's wicked.


Right on. I can never seem to find it though.


August 2006 it was $0.60 per round if you bought it by the case. Free shipping on that too. I have no idea what it cost now.


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Re: 45 acp [Re: Wiley Coyote] #2924674
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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted by 3toe
Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Winchester Ranger T is the old reliable and notorious Black Talon ammo without the black coating. It's wicked.


Right on. I can never seem to find it though.


August 2006 it was $0.60 per round if you bought it by the case. Free shipping on that too. I have no idea what it cost now.


Found some for around 77 cents a round online


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Re: 45 acp [Re: goodman_hunter] #2924769
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I like the HST and the Ranger T.

The last Ranger T i bought came from Ammo To Go.

Hydra Shock is good too.

Had a buddy that loaded his own Gold Dots and they performed well on pigs, FWIW


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Re: 45 acp [Re: James] #2924826
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
Originally Posted by BCLC
That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt!

Thank you, I was pretty young when he got it. It was his baby. I feel honored that he let me get it. The Browning hp was my dad's. So both of them have sentimental value to me. They were special to those 2 men because that's what they used in the military (not those exact guns). My uncle in us military and my dad in the British military.


Congrats! But he should've put a little oil on his baby from time to time 😀

True that, it ain't as bad as the pic makes it look, the safety is rusty and I'll probably replace it. I hope tomorrow I can shoot it and an old colt Sporter 1 I got from him a few weeks ago.


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