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Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2903646
09/13/19 04:57 PM
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Not selected either....first time registering though. Maybe next time

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2903656
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Not selected again this year.

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Southwood7] #2903662
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Originally Posted by Southwood7

I got selected for 2 Portland landing hunts.

congrats man! You're gonna make someone who is an alternate very happy! You need to buy lottery tickets. Seriously. Chosen for 2 hunts?? The odds of that are astronomical.


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Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2903715
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I've been staunchly opposed to the SOA deal since it came out, but that being said, I did apply for several hunts. 2 preference points and did not get drawn for any of them.

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2903741
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So, a girl who I know that works for the Dnr explained the preference system to me. More points equal a “better chance” of being selected. They are doing it similarly to the gator tags where some hunters will draw regularly and some will never get drawn. What she did not specify is how much each preference point is weighted.

Leave it to Alabama to come up with this system.

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Atoler] #2903767
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Originally Posted by Atoler
So, a girl who I know that works for the Dnr explained the preference system to me. More points equal a “better chance” of being selected. They are doing it similarly to the gator tags where some hunters will draw regularly and some will never get drawn. What she did not specify is how much each preference point is weighted.

Leave it to Alabama to come up with this system.


Common sense says if you put in three years and accrue three points or four years (4 points) or whatever, then you should have "preference" over someone applying for the first time or with fewer points. That's the entire point of a "preference points" system.

If this is not how it's done in Alabama that's crazy.

Yet another reason I have not, and will never, apply for any preference point hunt here.


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Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2903769
09/13/19 07:56 PM
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I got the Fred T Stimpson Youth Hunt 12/21

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Clem] #2903802
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Atoler
So, a girl who I know that works for the Dnr explained the preference system to me. More points equal a “better chance” of being selected. They are doing it similarly to the gator tags where some hunters will draw regularly and some will never get drawn. What she did not specify is how much each preference point is weighted.

Leave it to Alabama to come up with this system.


Common sense says if you put in three years and accrue three points or four years (4 points) or whatever, then you should have "preference" over someone applying for the first time or with fewer points. That's the entire point of a "preference points" system.

If this is not how it's done in Alabama that's crazy.

Yet another reason I have not, and will never, apply for any preference point hunt here.



I would think that you would get as many chances as points, but the state government probably came up with a complicated algorithm that they can't even use correctly. Hell they can't even get am and pm right

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Clem] #2903818
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Atoler
So, a girl who I know that works for the Dnr explained the preference system to me. More points equal a “better chance” of being selected. They are doing it similarly to the gator tags where some hunters will draw regularly and some will never get drawn. What she did not specify is how much each preference point is weighted.

Leave it to Alabama to come up with this system.


Common sense says if you put in three years and accrue three points or four years (4 points) or whatever, then you should have "preference" over someone applying for the first time or with fewer points. That's the entire point of a "preference points" system.

If this is not how it's done in Alabama that's crazy.

Yet another reason I have not, and will never, apply for any preference point hunt here.


Clem, the DNR employee I was talking to earlier responded. She said that she assumed it was done like the gator draw, but was not 100%. According to her, the gator draw works like this. There are around 5500 applicants every year. There are 260 tags. 85% of tags are reserved for participants with preference points, 15% are reserved for people with no preference points. Everyone who draws a tag loses their points.

Does anyone else see the stupidity in that? Let’s assume there are 500 applicants a year with no preference points. That would include the hunters who drew a tag the year before and the hunters who’ve never signed up before. That’s a 8% chance of being drawn.

The remaining 5000 with preference points, battle it out over the other 221 tags. That’s a 4.5% chance of drawing.

Smdh

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2903907
09/13/19 10:34 PM
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Got selected for a youth hunt at fred t. Simpson. Only had 1 preference point.. A friend of mine got picked for a gun doe hunt in cedar creek for Nov. This was his first year putting in for it.

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2903964
09/14/19 06:55 AM
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Got drawn for the 10/18 Crow Creek hunt.

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2904060
09/14/19 09:52 AM
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Well hate to say it, drawn for Portland Jan 23 gun hunt; and wife alternate for Dec 5.

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Atoler] #2904095
09/14/19 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Atoler
Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Atoler
So, a girl who I know that works for the Dnr explained the preference system to me. More points equal a “better chance” of being selected. They are doing it similarly to the gator tags where some hunters will draw regularly and some will never get drawn. What she did not specify is how much each preference point is weighted.

Leave it to Alabama to come up with this system.


Common sense says if you put in three years and accrue three points or four years (4 points) or whatever, then you should have "preference" over someone applying for the first time or with fewer points. That's the entire point of a "preference points" system.

If this is not how it's done in Alabama that's crazy.

Yet another reason I have not, and will never, apply for any preference point hunt here.


Clem, the DNR employee I was talking to earlier responded. She said that she assumed it was done like the gator draw, but was not 100%. According to her, the gator draw works like this. There are around 5500 applicants every year. There are 260 tags. 85% of tags are reserved for participants with preference points, 15% are reserved for people with no preference points. Everyone who draws a tag loses their points.

Does anyone else see the stupidity in that? Let’s assume there are 500 applicants a year with no preference points. That would include the hunters who drew a tag the year before and the hunters who’ve never signed up before. That’s a 8% chance of being drawn.

The remaining 5000 with preference points, battle it out over the other 221 tags. That’s a 4.5% chance of drawing.

Smdh


I get it that you are pissed off about the preference points, however, in your above assumption you can make the gator numbers what ever you want. Change to 1500 and 4000 and your %'s of getting picked go up and down to 2.3 and 5.5. so what's your solution?

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Atoler] #2904170
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Originally Posted by Atoler
Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Atoler
So, a girl who I know that works for the Dnr explained the preference system to me. More points equal a “better chance” of being selected. They are doing it similarly to the gator tags where some hunters will draw regularly and some will never get drawn. What she did not specify is how much each preference point is weighted.

Leave it to Alabama to come up with this system.


Common sense says if you put in three years and accrue three points or four years (4 points) or whatever, then you should have "preference" over someone applying for the first time or with fewer points. That's the entire point of a "preference points" system.

If this is not how it's done in Alabama that's crazy.

Yet another reason I have not, and will never, apply for any preference point hunt here.


Clem, the DNR employee I was talking to earlier responded. She said that she assumed it was done like the gator draw, but was not 100%. According to her, the gator draw works like this. There are around 5500 applicants every year. There are 260 tags. 85% of tags are reserved for participants with preference points, 15% are reserved for people with no preference points. Everyone who draws a tag loses their points.

Does anyone else see the stupidity in that? Let’s assume there are 500 applicants a year with no preference points. That would include the hunters who drew a tag the year before and the hunters who’ve never signed up before. That’s a 8% chance of being drawn.

The remaining 5000 with preference points, battle it out over the other 221 tags. That’s a 4.5% chance of drawing.

Smdh



I wonder how many have applied so far for the sandhill crane hunt, which is $10 to register/apply.

Since they're migratory birds, the same regs are applying as for waterfowl -- must have state license, state and federal waterfowl stamps, HIP permit, and WMA permit if you're hunting on a WMA. Legal arms and ammo (non-toxic) also the same as for waterfowl.


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Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2904197
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Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2904561
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Just making hunting "experiences" greater one preference point at a time.


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Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Beebs] #2904576
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Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Clem] #2904763
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Atoler
Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Atoler
So, a girl who I know that works for the Dnr explained the preference system to me. More points equal a “better chance” of being selected. They are doing it similarly to the gator tags where some hunters will draw regularly and some will never get drawn. What she did not specify is how much each preference point is weighted.

Leave it to Alabama to come up with this system.


Common sense says if you put in three years and accrue three points or four years (4 points) or whatever, then you should have "preference" over someone applying for the first time or with fewer points. That's the entire point of a "preference points" system.

If this is not how it's done in Alabama that's crazy.

Yet another reason I have not, and will never, apply for any preference point hunt here.


Clem, the DNR employee I was talking to earlier responded. She said that she assumed it was done like the gator draw, but was not 100%. According to her, the gator draw works like this. There are around 5500 applicants every year. There are 260 tags. 85% of tags are reserved for participants with preference points, 15% are reserved for people with no preference points. Everyone who draws a tag loses their points.

Does anyone else see the stupidity in that? Let’s assume there are 500 applicants a year with no preference points. That would include the hunters who drew a tag the year before and the hunters who’ve never signed up before. That’s a 8% chance of being drawn.

The remaining 5000 with preference points, battle it out over the other 221 tags. That’s a 4.5% chance of drawing.

Smdh



I wonder how many have applied so far for the sandhill crane hunt, which is $10 to register/apply.

Since they're migratory birds, the same regs are applying as for waterfowl -- must have state license, state and federal waterfowl stamps, HIP permit, and WMA permit if you're hunting on a WMA. Legal arms and ammo (non-toxic) also the same as for waterfowl.





I started to and then added it all up and decided I didn't want to waste more money...

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: capehorn24] #2904950
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Originally Posted by capehorn24


I get it that you are pissed off about the preference points, however, in your above assumption you can make the gator numbers what ever you want. Change to 1500 and 4000 and your %'s of getting picked go up and down to 2.3 and 5.5. so what's your solution?



Just quoting the numbers of applicants I was told...

But to answer your question, here is my solution. Do it like every other state. If there are 260 tags, the tier with the most points get tags. The tier with the 2nd most points get what’s left over. The tier with the 3rd most points get any that are left over from the first two, and so on. There should never be a system where some people have tried for 10 years to get drawn and people who have no time invested have a chance to draw before them.

Re: It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre [Re: Atoler] #2904970
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Originally Posted by Atoler
Originally Posted by capehorn24


I get it that you are pissed off about the preference points, however, in your above assumption you can make the gator numbers what ever you want. Change to 1500 and 4000 and your %'s of getting picked go up and down to 2.3 and 5.5. so what's your solution?



Just quoting the numbers of applicants I was told...

But to answer your question, here is my solution. Do it like every other state. If there are 260 tags, the tier with the most points get tags. The tier with the 2nd most points get what’s left over. The tier with the 3rd most points get any that are left over from the first two, and so on. There should never be a system where some people have tried for 10 years to get drawn and people who have no time invested have a chance to draw before them.


Now you know if they did it this way then Chucky couldn't give hunts to his buddies.


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