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Powders. #2854145
07/17/19 08:38 PM
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Bclc&Au talking about 4350 and the .257 Bob got me to review data. 4064 and the .35 Whelen works well. 4831& the .473 '06 family hard to beat. Varget and the .308 family same deal. Experience shows that most us handloaders have at least 2 "backup loads' when we can't get a certain componet (Curse you Alliant for speeding up 2400's burn rate!) I found W760 works decently in .30-30 not as well as W748 but it'll work.


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2854174
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RL-19 was made for 30-06. It and IMR4350 get the same results when loading 280.


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2854189
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Buy powder in 8 lb jugs. Stick with a core group of powders and keep large supplies of all of them. Only go outside the core group if you've got a finicky rifle.

Speaking of H4831, I bought an 8 lb jug of one of the notoriously 'slow' lots a few years ago. You can't cram enough of that powder in a case to get the velocity. Tried a max load with 180 gr bullets in my 06 a couple years ago and couldn't get 2500 FPS. I only use it in one of my 300 win mags because it loves that powder but I'm using a load that would make Hodgdon's lawyers faint. 😀


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2854590
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There seems to be an IMR 4064 load for everything.


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Re: Powders. [Re: Dixiepatriot] #2854648
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Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
There seems to be an IMR 4064 load for everything.

Maybe so, but I would never use that powder in a 300 RUM. it's best suited for cartridges with compression ratios in the 308 range.


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2854725
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IMHO, the 4831s shine with heavy for caliber bullets. I typically shoot lighter bullets (130-140 in 270, 150-165 in 30-06), and have had much better luck with the 4350s.


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2854835
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I wouldn't shoot h4831sc if it were free. That crap gives me the slowest velocity of just about anything I've tried.


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Re: Powders. [Re: N2TRKYS] #2854843
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
I wouldn't shoot h4831sc if it were free. That crap gives me the slowest velocity of just about anything I've tried.

What cartridges have you tried to use it in?


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Re: Powders. [Re: AU338MAG] #2854926
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
I wouldn't shoot h4831sc if it were free. That crap gives me the slowest velocity of just about anything I've tried.

What cartridges have you tried to use it in?


270Win, 25-06 and 7 SAUM


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Re: Powders. [Re: N2TRKYS] #2855022
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
I wouldn't shoot h4831sc if it were free. That crap gives me the slowest velocity of just about anything I've tried.

What cartridges have you tried to use it in?


270Win, 25-06 and 7 SAUM

Should work great in all of those. You may have gotten a slow lot like I did a few years ago. Just add more powder.


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2855023
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
I wouldn't shoot h4831sc if it were free. That crap gives me the slowest velocity of just about anything I've tried.

What cartridges have you tried to use it in?


270Win, 25-06 and 7 SAUM

Should work great in all of those. You may have gotten a slow lot like I did a few years ago. Just add more powder.


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Re: Powders. [Re: AU338MAG] #2855066
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
I wouldn't shoot h4831sc if it were free. That crap gives me the slowest velocity of just about anything I've tried.

What cartridges have you tried to use it in?


270Win, 25-06 and 7 SAUM

Should work great in all of those. You may have gotten a slow lot like I did a few years ago. Just add more powder.


They said it wasn't a slow lot. It was about 200fps slow.


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2856017
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One of my best 06 loads uses H414 powder pushing a Nosler 125BT at over 3000 fps.


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2856420
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Errbody oughta have some H110.

Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2856443
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Only had bad luck with H414 and good with H110.(and it's "cousin" W296)


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Re: Powders. [Re: Dixiepatriot] #2860508
07/25/19 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
RL-19 was made for 30-06. It and IMR4350 get the same results when loading 280.

If 4350 is good then IME R19 will do it better in the 280. R19 behind 140s in the 280 is the optimum powder for velocity. Don’t think you can push 4350 quite as fast. Accuracy is, as always, a different issue and depends on rifle. 4350 in the 06 is never a bad choice.

Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2860549
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I usually load 154s for my 280. A few years ago I was having trouble finding R19.


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Re: Powders. [Re: Dixiepatriot] #2860575
07/25/19 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
I usually load 154s for my 280. A few years ago I was having trouble finding R19.
For me H4831 was the best powder with 150/154s. Currently running 160 Accubonds over R23 and its the cat’s meow.

Last edited by 280REM; 07/25/19 09:30 AM.
Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2901129
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Sadly I have every powder mentioned in this thread except H414
H4350 was the1st powder I ever bought and loaded in 30.06 & 243. I always found extremely accurate lids and velocity with it in those
In the 270win RL26 and a 150 partition can’t be beat.
I don’t think I have touched any of my reloading equipment in 2 years now.
I honestly don’t remember what I do and don’t have anymore


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Re: Powders. [Re: dave260rem!] #2901513
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Imr 4895, imr 4350, and imr 4064 covers alot of calibers and works well I use regular and the reloader 19,22,25 is hard to beat aswell

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