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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: CrappieMan] #2900377
09/09/19 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple J
You'll slow done now because they just installed parking curbs out into the highway.


Did they really?

Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900385
09/09/19 09:46 PM
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My wife got one going through Brantley and her letter, addressed to me of course, had a picture of the vehicle, but no face. Since she admits to speeding, and I don't have the money to fight it, she just paid it. If I were a lawyer or had a ton of money, I would see to it that BS ended.

The truth is she needs to slow down anyways. She got one a couple of weeks before that in White Hall. It was an officer issues ticket. The bad thing about that is the officer lives right around the corner from us so I know he recognized the address. He doesn't know me by address so he didn't put it together of whose wife she is. I had no problem with that. I do have a problem with the next bit though. My son was in the passenger seat and the officer looked squarely at him. A week before that Lang and a couple of his buds went to the Cahaba river to catfish off of the bank. When they got down there, WH officer was stuck in the sand with his squeeze that wasn't his wife. The kids pulled him out and haven't said a word. I don't cheat on my wife, but if I did and found myself in a similar situation there would be three young men that had passes through White Hall at whatever speed they want. Heck I'd be comping them all the token at the casino they wanted too.

Bottom line, I hate camera tickets for reason I've explained before and I'm waiting for a lawyer to hit these things hard. I'll even testify as an expert witness as to the reasons they are unethical by good LE practices.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900408
09/09/19 10:21 PM
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Apparently my driving privileges r revoked in Georgia...i know i paid one ticket a day late maybe it's something different I reckon I need to call em


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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: jb20] #2900409
09/09/19 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jb20
Apparently my driving privileges r revoked in Georgia...i know i paid one ticket a day late maybe it's something different I reckon I need to call em


Cant speak to GA, but the ones in Alabama cant have any affect on your DL or insurance.


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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: jawbone] #2900423
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Originally Posted by jawbone


I'm waiting for a lawyer to hit these things hard.


Agree, but as long as they've been around, you'd think it would have already happened...if they're truly illegal.


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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: crenshawco] #2900461
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Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by Triple J
You'll slow done now because they just installed parking curbs out into the highway.


Did they really?


Yep, all through the newly renovated downtown. It all started with the new hardware store. It's something special to see.

Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900474
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they are not illegal if the state legislature has given them permission to enforce criminal laws civilly. They are however, unethical from a LE standpoint. What is legal is not always moral and what is moral is not always illegal.

A lot of attorneys have beaten these things, it is just that none of them have taken them on as a class action. that is what will end them.

Last edited by jawbone; 09/10/19 06:26 AM.

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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: jawbone] #2900476
09/10/19 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jawbone
they are not illegal if the state legislature has given them permission to enforce criminal laws civilly. They are however, unethical from a LE standpoint. What is legal is not always moral and what is moral is not always illegal.

A lot of attorneys have beaten these things, it is just that none of them have taken them on as a class action. that is what will end them.

They made speeding a civil offense for the city so it is not criminal

Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900478
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by jawbone
they are not illegal if the state legislature has given them permission to enforce criminal laws civilly. They are however, unethical from a LE standpoint. What is legal is not always moral and what is moral is not always illegal.

A lot of attorneys have beaten these things, it is just that none of them have taken them on as a class action. that is what will end them.

They made speeding a civil offense for the city so it is not criminal

No, it is still criminal, but they allow it to also be enforced civilly.


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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: CrappieMan] #2900480
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Originally Posted by Triple J
Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by Triple J
You'll slow done now because they just installed parking curbs out into the highway.


Did they really?


Yep, all through the newly renovated downtown. It all started with the new hardware store. It's something special to see.

Sounds special..... Like those special kids on the short bus. That kinda special.


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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900486
09/10/19 06:57 AM
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If you want to spend the time and money to hire a lawyer, you will almost always beat them. Very few cities are actually operating them legally. The problem is it wil cost you a lot more than the ticket cost to fight it.

Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: doekiller] #2900502
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Unless your father is a retiring bored attorney. Hum?

Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900522
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The wife got one going to the beach this summer! Just paid it!


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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Out back] #2900553
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by Triple J
Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by Triple J
You'll slow done now because they just installed parking curbs out into the highway.


Did they really?


Yep, all through the newly renovated downtown. It all started with the new hardware store. It's something special to see.

Sounds special..... Like those special kids on the short bus. That kinda special.


That's the kind of special I'm talking about

Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900621
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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900635
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If you are stopped or checked in the future it might be more expensive and time consuming.

Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: hunterbuck] #2900681
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by jawbone


I'm waiting for a lawyer to hit these things hard.


Agree, but as long as they've been around, you'd think it would have already happened...if they're truly illegal.

They are or have been challenged around the state. Phenix city is one place i believe, I don’t know how that turned out.


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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2900922
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The tickets are legit bit they do not go on ur driving record cuz they can't prove it was u driving


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Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: doekiller] #2900941
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Originally Posted by doekiller
If you want to spend the time and money to hire a lawyer, you will almost always beat them. Very few cities are actually operating them legally. The problem is it wil cost you a lot more than the ticket cost to fight it.


What are the potential repercussions of not paying it? I couldn't find anything that they could do to you for the one I got in South Dakota. It was a civil issue, there were no ramifications on your driving record, no court date to miss, and they couldn't ding your credit. Why bother fighting it? Just don't pay it. Unless I'm missing something?

Re: Are mailed traffic violations legit? [Re: Ben2] #2901048
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Some poor sucker passed me this afternoon right there in Brantley. He looked at me like I was stupid as he flew by. I’m sure they will mail him his prize . Cook county TN I think was on his tag.

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