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Baiting
#2898140
09/06/19 04:20 PM
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Sandmtnslayer
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Just this and was like wth. If a youth that doesn't even have to have a license is participating in the hunt in any way they have to have the bait privilege permit. Are u kidding me.nothing but a pure joke imo
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/06/19 05:55 PM
09/06/19 05:55 PM
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I can’t wait to see a toddler get a ticket and the repercussions that follow. Someone will undoubtably get slapped hard. I’d also like to know the name of the GW that’d be such a horses arse to write a kid a ticket
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Baiting
[Re: deadeye48]
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09/06/19 07:08 PM
09/06/19 07:08 PM
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BhamFred
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I can’t wait to see a toddler get a ticket and the repercussions that follow. Someone will undoubtably get slapped hard. I’d also like to know the name of the GW that’d be such a horses arse to write a kid a ticket if you don't think there is one out there that will do it, you are sadly mistaken.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Baiting
[Re: BhamFred]
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09/06/19 07:10 PM
09/06/19 07:10 PM
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I can’t wait to see a toddler get a ticket and the repercussions that follow. Someone will undoubtably get slapped hard. I’d also like to know the name of the GW that’d be such a horses arse to write a kid a ticket if you don't think there is one out there that will do it, you are sadly mistaken. That is what is wrong with this entire thing. but you are right.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: deadeye48]
#2898232
09/06/19 07:27 PM
09/06/19 07:27 PM
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Sandmtnslayer
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I can’t wait to see a toddler get a ticket and the repercussions that follow. Someone will undoubtably get slapped hard. I’d also like to know the name of the GW that’d be such a horses arse to write a kid a ticket All of them
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/06/19 07:46 PM
09/06/19 07:46 PM
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Yall just remember...... Conservation Officers are sworn to uphold the law. It is their job to enforce the law. All the ones I know take their job very seriously. That doesn't make this particular situation right but it is the law of the land unfortunately.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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09/06/19 08:09 PM
09/06/19 08:09 PM
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Is Game and Fish really this hard up for money, that they have to sell out on their baiting is bad stance to the point they are charging little kids? I’d say yes, chuckle is a moneyhungrymudderfudder!
Last edited by Reloader79; 09/06/19 08:10 PM.
If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: BhamFred]
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09/06/19 08:41 PM
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I can’t wait to see a toddler get a ticket and the repercussions that follow. Someone will undoubtably get slapped hard. I’d also like to know the name of the GW that’d be such a horses arse to write a kid a ticket if you don't think there is one out there that will do it, you are sadly mistaken. Never said there isn’t a GW who wouldn’t do it . Fact is I know one that would do it but then he’s a horses arse all the time anyway
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Baiting
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
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09/06/19 08:56 PM
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I saw the word “kid” and “spray”
LEO’s love to justify their existence so I’d say buy the permit. Well Nate in some cases I’d have to say your right
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Baiting
[Re: slippinlipjr]
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09/06/19 09:15 PM
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Sandmtnslayer
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Yall just remember...... Conservation Officers are sworn to uphold the law. It is their job to enforce the law. All the ones I know take their job very seriously. That doesn't make this particular situation right but it is the law of the land unfortunately. Yessir but sumtimes u have to let stuff go u know isn't right
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/07/19 04:48 AM
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I know one that would definitely give a kid a ticket. He probably gets a stiffy just at the thought of it. I just wish he would put the light back in my shooting house. Asshole!
What you do today, you have to sleep with tonight.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Hunter454]
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09/08/19 05:20 AM
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You have a choice, don't bait. Then you don't have to buy one. Yea that sounds good but sumbody hunting the same property baits ur arse is busted
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/08/19 06:46 AM
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You have a choice, don't bait. Then you don't have to buy one. Yea that sounds good but sumbody hunting the same property baits ur arse is busted exactly^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Baiting
[Re: slippinlipjr]
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09/08/19 07:52 AM
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Yall just remember...... Conservation Officers are sworn to uphold the law. It is their job to enforce the law. All the ones I know take their job very seriously. That doesn't make this particular situation right but it is the law of the land unfortunately. Is it really the law of the land? Does the wording in the Alabama code really say that, or has Chuck and Co . conveniently modified the wording? I won't go 49er and start on laws V regs.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: SuperSpike]
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09/08/19 10:53 AM
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So I was reading in the license purchase section. My son is 6. So do I buy him a license to hunt under supervision, and then tack on the bait priv stamp or whatever its called? Just trying to get a good understanding on all of this. No license but has to have the bait thingy. Chuckie says there is no excuse for a 6 yo to not be working after school and weekends so they can send the money to the DCNR. They need to pay their own way. Bunch of entitlement program freeloading 6 yo's.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/08/19 11:02 AM
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Leo's are sworn to uphold the law. Dont break the law & you wont get a ticket. I do think it's crazy that kids & seniors have to pay for this privilege.
"When you've stared down the barrel of a shotgun in your own home, 3rd & 20 don't seem too bad"......Ken "Snake" Stabler
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Re: Baiting
[Re: .308]
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09/08/19 11:07 AM
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Leo's are sworn to uphold the law. Dont break the law & you wont get a ticket. I do think it's crazy that kids & seniors have to pay for this privilege. You're saying everyone that gets a ticket is guilty?? If you believe that, 100% no bad tickets written, you sir, do not need to be in the woods with a gun unsupervised!
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/08/19 11:30 AM
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BhamFred
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there is such a thing called common sense, also discretion. One does NOT have to write a ticket for EVERY violation one sees, oath or not. Arresting, thru the juvenile process, a ten year old for not having a "bait permit" is a crock of chitt and any officer that would do that needs firing. And ANYONE saying a seven year old needs to "pay his way" needs a realignment.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Baiting
[Re: BhamFred]
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09/08/19 12:13 PM
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there is such a thing called common sense, also discretion. One does NOT have to write a ticket for EVERY violation one sees, oath or not. Arresting, thru the juvenile process, a ten year old for not having a "bait permit" is a crock of chitt and any officer that would do that needs firing. And ANYONE saying a seven year old needs to "pay his way" needs a realignment. Well said pawpaw I nominate BhamFred for Director of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: Baiting
[Re: centralala]
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09/08/19 12:37 PM
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Leo's are sworn to uphold the law. Dont break the law & you wont get a ticket. I do think it's crazy that kids & seniors have to pay for this privilege. You're saying everyone that gets a ticket is guilty?? If you believe that, 100% no bad tickets written, you sir, do not need to be in the woods with a gun unsupervised! I disagree Central, he needs to be in the woods. He needs to take a little kid hunting as a none hunting observer , shoot a buck , of course little feller will want to help drag the buck. Then when sworn to uphold the law GW comes along and writes the "little hunter" a ticket for "assisting " I bet he changes his tune.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Ranger Rick]
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09/09/19 10:08 AM
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My understanding is the legislature, not Game/Fish, wrote the bill. Also, if the youngster does not have a gun with him, and dad does...., No violation. That is the way I understand it too. The way I read the release, it said this is what most of the legislator's constituents have wanted, and therefore the legislature voted to pass. So now F&G will support and enforce the law.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Ranger Rick]
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09/09/19 12:04 PM
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My understanding is the legislature, not Game/Fish, wrote the bill. Also, if the youngster does not have a gun with him, and dad does...., No violation. Rest assured, the bill was written and passed with full support of Chuckie and company. That arrogant, money hungry goobersmoocher would pimp his own mother for a dollar.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: WARPhEAGLE]
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09/10/19 06:07 AM
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My understanding is the legislature, not Game/Fish, wrote the bill. Also, if the youngster does not have a gun with him, and dad does...., No violation. That is the way I understand it too. The way I read the release, it said this is what most of the legislator's constituents have wanted, and therefore the legislature voted to pass. So now F&G will support and enforce the law. ..............and gladly accept the 15 bucks a pop.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: timbercruiser]
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09/10/19 04:29 PM
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That was before the new law. Now you have to use at least 500 lbs per bait site to earn that status.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Huntn2feed5]
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09/10/19 06:17 PM
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how many pounds of corn do u have to put out to be considered a Master Baiter Damn lol
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Huntn2feed5]
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09/10/19 07:48 PM
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how many pounds of corn do u have to put out to be considered a Master Baiter You're thinking about it all wrong. Its not the size of the pile, its the quality of the seed.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/11/19 10:03 PM
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The "definition of area" thing is still in use so if the feed is placed according to the "definition of area" guidelines, then no bait permit is required. By the way, according to the law, hunting game by aid of bait is still illegal, so if you do not follow the area guidelines and put out bait in plain sight AND you dont have the "bait permit", you will still get a ticket. Most of the officers who worked for me did not want to be doing juvenile charges at all, but I do know some who would do it. One thing is for sure, if a dad put a kid over a pile of bait, just go find the dad cause he will have some under him, too.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/11/19 10:07 PM
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The "definition of area" thing is still in use so if the feed is placed according to the "definition of area" guidelines, then no bait permit is required. By the way, according to the law, hunting game by aid of bait is still illegal, so if you do not follow the area guidelines and put out bait in plain sight AND you dont have the "bait permit", you will still get a ticket. Most of the officers who worked for me did not want to be doing juvenile charges at all, but I do know some who would do it. One thing is for sure, if a dad put a kid over a pile of bait, just go find the dad cause he will have some under him, too.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/12/19 05:58 PM
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[ I disagree Central, he needs to be in the woods. He needs to take a little kid hunting as a none hunting observer , shoot a buck , of course little feller will want to help drag the buck. Then when sworn to uphold the law GW comes along and writes the "little hunter" a ticket for "assisting " I bet he changes his tune.
Little feller shouldnt get a ticket but his legal guardian should. I certainly hope you aren't training our youth how to be outlaws.
"When you've stared down the barrel of a shotgun in your own home, 3rd & 20 don't seem too bad"......Ken "Snake" Stabler
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Re: Baiting
[Re: .308]
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09/12/19 09:15 PM
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[ I disagree Central, he needs to be in the woods. He needs to take a little kid hunting as a none hunting observer , shoot a buck , of course little feller will want to help drag the buck. Then when sworn to uphold the law GW comes along and writes the "little hunter" a ticket for "assisting " I bet he changes his tune.
Little feller shouldnt get a ticket but his legal guardian should. I certainly hope you aren't training our youth how to be outlaws. So you think, the adult should get a ticket in my scenario? I say neither should . If I take my grandson along as a none hunter and I shoot a buck , he can help drag it , if that makes him an outlaw well I guess I'll live with it. The GW who writes him/me/us will live with a judge throwing it out and chewing on his ass. That is if a there's a DA, DA who would let it go to trial . You ever drive one mile an hour over the speed limit with a child in the car? If you are driving along with a child and he gives directions or tells you a 4 way stop is ahead should he/she get a traffic ticket for "assisting" ? Should the parent ?
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"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: .308]
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09/12/19 09:33 PM
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[ I disagree Central, he needs to be in the woods. He needs to take a little kid hunting as a none hunting observer , shoot a buck , of course little feller will want to help drag the buck. Then when sworn to uphold the law GW comes along and writes the "little hunter" a ticket for "assisting " I bet he changes his tune.
Little feller shouldnt get a ticket but his legal guardian should. I certainly hope you aren't training our youth how to be outlaws. My son is 9 and EXEMPT from hunting license. The state has already shown precedence but not requiring youth to buy the WMA ADDITIONAL license to hunt a WMA. I will not purchase a bait license for him. This entire STUPID rule will go away once a kid gets a ticket and the parent takes it to court.
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/12/19 10:00 PM
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Cobb corn. Thank me later. It almost glows in the dark and gives you a lighted backdrop to kill deer on.
It is also cheaper than clean shelled corn you put in feeders. Coming from a SC deer hunter where corn has been legal since Columbus came over. Bait stands on Friday night. Kill deer Saturday morning and all weekend. Maybe corn again Mon or Tues for the week day hunters but deer will kick around in the cobbs searching for awhile after most of the corn is gone. Deer also have to work at biting off a mouthful of cobb corn - use this distraction to get the rifle up. A smart doe will try to trick you by doing the head fake if she suspects something on a pressured stand and will quickly get a mouthful of shelled corn and chew it looking around. They can’t do that as easy with Cobb corn. Rinse and repeat each week. If you are hunting a big deer on camera, don’t shoot nuthin, just let em eat, frankly I wouldn’t hunt the stand until the time gets right and I start getting day time pics. He will stand on that corn pile waiting for a doe during the rut if you don’t booger it. Bet
I would not use a feeder no way unless you are willing to invest 5 years in a spot. A lot of bucks are feeder shy for a generation.
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[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/13/19 05:27 AM
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I agree with yall, exempt hunters shouldn't be required to buy any license but the law is what it is. Helping drag a deer has nothing to do with it. I don't like the baiting law personally but I won't teach my grandson that just because he dosen't like a law then it's ok for him not to follow it. I'll not raise a little thug.
"When you've stared down the barrel of a shotgun in your own home, 3rd & 20 don't seem too bad"......Ken "Snake" Stabler
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Re: Baiting
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
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09/13/19 09:13 AM
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I guess if you see a guy on the side of the road and he cant quite get his deer in the bed of his truck and you don't have a hunting license you can just stop and cheer him on. I'd think once the deer is dead the hunt would be over . That is when the work starts. SMDH
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Re: Baiting
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09/14/19 05:15 AM
09/14/19 05:15 AM
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,209
Boxes Cove
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I know what they say, but never heard of anybody being arrested for helping someone drag a legally killed deer. Anyway, .my comment was that nobody was going to write up a kid who was helping Paw Paw drag a deer. I certainly hope not , however, someone in the home office authored that BS, stating if a kid engages in those activities they need the license . If one needs a license to do something and you don't have one you are breaking the law and there are penalties for breaking laws. I searched the Alabama Code and could find no wording anywhere near that in the game laws. I suspect it was done as an enticement to sell more licenses . Whoever wrote that BS should be fired Monday morning, along with their boss .
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