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This one is far from over #2884371
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The plot on this tragic accident runs fairly deep. This may just be the beginning of it all

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/...t-crash-that-killed-kelsey-starling.html


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884378
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Plot? So it was more than a accident Matt? I didn’t even know it had happened till now. Bad deal


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884393
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I am with Daniel...the use of the word, plot, does indicate that there is more to this than it simply being an accident. If that is the case, then it makes the situation even more tragic for her family.


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884395
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I'm not sure I understand. Mr. Suggs (I assume) was driving the boat that hit the pontoon boat. Mrs. Suggs was a passenger and she is also charged with criminally negligent homicide?

Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884397
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Certainly has my interest peaked at this point. I'll be following...........

Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884399
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I have been watching this myself and something smells. Especially now introducing this other couple and their craft. Story will not go in depth why they were just now arrested. Deep pockets somewhere?

Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884402
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The article - another poorly written piece by the ever chitty AL.com liberal internet blog that somehow passes for local "journalism" - does not even mention the connection if the Suggs to the incident on that the driver of the young lady's boat, Mr. Fite, was charged with boating under the influence.

So what the Hell did the Suggs have to do with it? The article doesn't allude to that at all, other than, "they were driving another boat..."

Re: This one is far from over [Re: centralala] #2884404
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Originally Posted by centralala
I'm not sure I understand. Mr. Suggs (I assume) was driving the boat that hit the pontoon boat. Mrs. Suggs was a passenger and she is also charged with criminally negligent homicide?


My exact question. It would make you think there is more to the story.


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: Irishguy] #2884406
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
The article - another poorly written piece by the ever chitty AL.com liberal internet blog that somehow passes for local "journalism" - does not even mention the connection if the Suggs to the incident on that the driver of the young lady's boat, Mr. Fite, was charged with boating under the influence.

So what the Hell did the Suggs have to do with it? The article doesn't allude to that at all, other than, "they were driving another boat..."


What he said.

Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884407
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Merely speculation, but, it Appears that mr Scruggs was drunk driving the pontoon and ran slap over the fite boat. The Scruggs said mrs Scruggs was driving the pontoon being as she wasn’t drunk or as drunk as her husband.


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: centralala] #2884410
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Originally Posted by centralala
I'm not sure I understand. Mr. Suggs (I assume) was driving the boat that hit the pontoon boat. Mrs. Suggs was a passenger and she is also charged with criminally negligent homicide?


Maybe because it was initially believed, or reported, to be Mrs. Suggs who was driving according to the article. I am not sure why both were arrested, either, unless they are being held on different charges related to the case. The article does not elaborate on what the charges are against each of them.

In the comments below the article, someone said that the boat Ms. Starling was in was sitting still at the time of the accident. I do not know if that person had firsthand knowledge of that, though.

I would think it would be much more difficult to reconstruct a boat accident scene than a road vehicle accident scene where you might see skid marks from one or more vehicles, etc.


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884418
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257 needs to open up with a little more info. Drake you were asking about deep pockets?. Well the article states that 23 yr old that was driving the boat that the girl was riding on was charged with BUI yet someone else is charged with the homicide. The boat was a Mastercraft wakeboard boat which aint cheap. 10 o'clock at night. Might have been sitting still in the dark with no running lights on. Not telling what they were doing. Some of the comments on the article refernce him as being a rich white boy. If the girl's parents are raising cain and getting national attention on it someone will have to be indicted in the girl's death, if it truly was negligent homicide. Pure speculation but I bet the Suggs are just a simple country family from Winston. 23 yr old may have parents with pull. Could be what 257 was alluding to. Will be an interesting one to follow.

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Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884419
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The Suggs ran over Mr. Fite's boat. Mr. Suggs was driving and Mrs. Suggs claimed she was driving because Mr. Suggs was impaired. The heavy charge on her is due to her originally claiming to be driving.

To make it worse, no nav or anchor lights were on Mr. Fite's boat which was sitting still in the dark when the crash occurred.


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: TexasHuntress] #2884422
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Originally Posted by TexasHuntress
Originally Posted by centralala
I'm not sure I understand. Mr. Suggs (I assume) was driving the boat that hit the pontoon boat. Mrs. Suggs was a passenger and she is also charged with criminally negligent homicide?


Maybe because it was initially believed, or reported, to be Mrs. Suggs who was driving according to the article. I am not sure why both were arrested, either, unless they are being held on different charges related to the case. The article does not elaborate on what the charges are against each of them.

In the comments below the article, someone said that the boat Ms. Starling was in was sitting still at the time of the accident. I do not know if that person had firsthand knowledge of that, though.

I would think it would be much more difficult to reconstruct a boat accident scene than a road vehicle accident scene where you might see skid marks from one or more vehicles, etc.


OK, I got it now.

Re: This one is far from over [Re: Irishguy] #2884424
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
The article - another poorly written piece by the ever chitty AL.com liberal internet blog that somehow passes for local "journalism" - does not even mention the connection if the Suggs to the incident on that the driver of the young lady's boat, Mr. Fite, was charged with boating under the influence.

So what the Hell did the Suggs have to do with it? The article doesn't allude to that at all, other than, "they were driving another boat..."



While I don't disagree about the website being chitty, the author of this story knows what she's doing and I'll put her skills against anyone's in the country. She's that good and has been for 30 years.

I'll guarantee you if she had more details, information or whatever else is going on with this investigation -- and IMO it's pretty clear there's an investigation and more to it going on -- she would have included them.


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884426
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We’re family friends with the party involved. Not the Suggs. Had known there were blatant lies being told on one end. It was a terrible ordeal for all. But hope Justice is served on an attempted cover up. Why is it so hard for sone folks to just tell the truth?


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Re: This one is far from over [Re: 257wbymag] #2884428
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I find it odd that there is the use of the word, "disappeared," making it seem like it was a purposeful action rather than, "could not be found," which would indicate that it was, in fact, a result of an unplanned event. Of course, maybe it is just me that thinks this way about it.

This article actually explains the Suggs connection to the accident.

https://abc3340.com/news/local/2-ch...igent-homicide-in-kelsey-starlings-death


The rest of these do not connect those dots much better than the article the OP posted.

https://www.wbrc.com/2019/08/21/new-arrests-connection-with-kelsey-starlings-death/

https://www.cbs42.com/news/two-decatur-men-charged-with-negligent-homicide-in-kelsey-starling-case/

https://www.wvtm13.com/article/brea...oating-death-of-kelsey-starling/28775018

https://www.waff.com/2019/08/21/couple-charged-deadly-july-boat-crash/


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Why are both being charged when only one would be the driver.


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Originally Posted by Runningdeer
Certainly has my interest peaked at this point. I'll be following...........

Piqued. Unless your interest has a meter. grin

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Originally Posted by TexasHuntress
Originally Posted by centralala
I'm not sure I understand. Mr. Suggs (I assume) was driving the boat that hit the pontoon boat. Mrs. Suggs was a passenger and she is also charged with criminally negligent homicide?


Maybe because it was initially believed, or reported, to be Mrs. Suggs who was driving according to the article. I am not sure why both were arrested, either, unless they are being held on different charges related to the case. The article does not elaborate on what the charges are against each of them.

In the comments below the article, someone said that the boat Ms. Starling was in was sitting still at the time of the accident. I do not know if that person had firsthand knowledge of that, though.

I would think it would be much more difficult to reconstruct a boat accident scene than a road vehicle accident scene where you might see skid marks from one or more vehicles, etc.


Actually, I went back and reread the article and it does say they are both being held on a charge of "criminally negligent homicide" which I suppose could be reasonable if you actually knew all the facts from the investigation, which I do not.


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