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Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. #2882292
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Two Fl firefighters launch and disappear. Hopefully they'll be found OK.



COAST GUARD SEARCH: USCG is involved in a search for 2 unaccounted for boaters who left Port Canaveral on Friday and failed to return. JAX firefighter Brian McCluney and Fairfax, VA firefighter Justin Walker were last seen as they launched their 22 foot Robalo from the boat ramp.



https://www.yahoo.com/gma/2-off-dut...boat-182700542--abc-news-topstories.html


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Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882307
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Best know what you are doing before you play in the big water.....hope they find them.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: bward85] #2882308
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Originally Posted by bward85
Best know what you are doing before you play in the big water.....hope they find them.


Maybe they did know what they were doing. Bad things happen to experienced, smart people all the time.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: Remington270] #2882312
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Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by bward85
Best know what you are doing before you play in the big water.....hope they find them.


Maybe they did know what they were doing. Bad things happen to experienced, smart people all the time.

You are correct ....I should have worded that differently.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882314
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that part of the Atlantic has a strong northern flow, they could be way north of where they launched. They ought to find them unless something happened.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882326
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This is why boats with only one motor shouldn't be used in the ocean. Troy they said the CG was searching from South Carolins South.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882482
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
This is why boats with only one motor shouldn't be used in the ocean. Troy they said the CG was searching from South Carolins South.


Truth!

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: CAL] #2882484
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Originally Posted by CAL
Originally Posted by perchjerker
This is why boats with only one motor shouldn't be used in the ocean. Troy they said the CG was searching from South Carolins South.


Truth!


One motor may be ok as long as you have 2 radios. laugh

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882489
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back in my younger dumber days I used to go out 10 miles off Stuart Fl in an old bass boat with a 75hp motor.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882498
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I've been 75 miles south of dauphin island in the middle of the night and seen single engine boats headed south.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882499
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Gulf Stream is to far east of where the put in the could be 100 miles north in short order.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: CrappieMan] #2882504
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Originally Posted by Triple J
I've been 75 miles south of dauphin island in the middle of the night and seen single engine boats headed south.


gulf is a hell of a lot different than the Atlantic


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882506
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Every time we run to the rigs I have an uneasy feeling. And that's on a 38' center console with triple three's hanging on back. Plus a satellite radio and life rafts and experienced offshore fishermen on board. Expect positive results but be prepared for the negative ones that can happen at anytime way offshore.

Praying that these guys are rescued.


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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: BhamFred] #2882518
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by Triple J
I've been 75 miles south of dauphin island in the middle of the night and seen single engine boats headed south.


gulf is a hell of a lot different than the Atlantic


Lived in ft Lauderdale before. I know that gulf stream well. Your right.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882576
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
This is why boats with only one motor shouldn't be used in the ocean. Troy they said the CG was searching from South Carolins South.


Nailed it Perch. Seperate fuel tanks/systems for each motor and seperate wiring, ignition and battery systems too. Only way to go if you're playing on the big pond. Electrical shorts, bad fuel pick ups, bad fuel, dead batteries. Too much can go wrong when you are way offshore....and it's a long paddle home when it does.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882637
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They found a tackle bag that was confirmed to be one of the guys. Going by where the bag was they were searching the wrong area all along. They were thinking the guys had started to shed non essential floating gear to create a debris field. I’ve been following it through a thread on THT started by the brother in law of the bot owner. The boat they are on is foam filled and unsinkable so hopefully worst case they’re floating around on top of or in the bot one. I hate hearing of any boater being missing. Makes me want to get rid of mine.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882658
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I run Waaaaay Offshore in the Gulf with a single engine Boat.....But Diesel Power! 30' Boat....5.9 Cummins....ZF Hurth transmission. But I know it mechanically like I know my own hands. Have tools....Spare:Hoses,Clamps,belts,fuses,Alternator,etc. on Board just in case!! And take extra fuel in case the Sea/Wind Conditions Cause increased fuel Consumption/Mile....

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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: leroycnbucks] #2882663
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Every time we run to the rigs I have an uneasy feeling. And that's on a 38' center console with triple three's hanging on back. Plus a satellite radio and life rafts and experienced offshore fishermen on board. Expect positive results but be prepared for the negative ones that can happen at anytime way offshore.

Praying that these guys are rescued.


Prayers out for these guys too. Sounds like you fish off one helluva boat.

Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882669
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
This is why boats with only one motor shouldn't be used in the ocean. Troy they said the CG was searching from South Carolins South.


I'd much rather know they were wearing a pfd than have 2 motors as search and rescue team member... People are too proud/stupid to wear them and it usually ends bad if they're not. Almost every SAR case I flew on, we would spot PFDs near the scene but, they were always empty

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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: bama1971] #2882696
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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882859
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Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by perchjerker
This is why boats with only one motor shouldn't be used in the ocean. Troy they said the CG was searching from South Carolins South.


I'd much rather know they were wearing a pfd than have 2 motors as search and rescue team member... People are too proud/stupid to wear them and it usually ends bad if they're not. Almost every SAR case I flew on, we would spot PFDs near the scene but, they were always empty


From the time I step out of the truck until I get back in the truck. Mine is self inflating and has a plb that's registered permanently attached to it. The beacon is manual. I figure the body retrieval should not eat up precious resources. If I am able to activate the beacon - please come get me as I really need help.

I run offshore to 50 miles with two different boats 20 feet or less with single engines. Both have a 150+ mile range, epirb for the boat, plb for me, two radios, one with a 12' antennae. One has a new chevy 350, the other an old (2000) 150 ocean pro. I keep seatow current and head back in when I should.

1977 Grady White Marlin 201 and a 2000 McKee Craft dual console 19.


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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: perchjerker] #2882886
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got a PLB, never go offshore without it?

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It should be a law that an EPIRB is mandatory on all boats going in the gulf or ocean. A satellite could locate them in a second.

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Shouldn't be a law for anything. Liberty means it's ok being as dumb as you like. CG should call off the search at dark though.


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Re: Boating in the ocean, isn't for everyone. [Re: Gulfcoast] #2883050
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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast
It should be a law that an EPIRB is mandatory on all boats going in the gulf or ocean. A satellite could locate them in a second.



This definitely. I NEVER leave the dock without it. Should be standard safety equipment.

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I have a deep respect for the Gulf/Ocean. I know I don't belong there.

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If y’all would and are please help out with this. I don’t know if it’s against any rules to post a link to another forum but I don’t mean any harm.

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Any updates on this? Anyone found?

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I scrolled through till I came up on post informing that the search was given up on after hundreds and hundreds and upon thousands of miles on the water were searched by every govt agency known to have responsibilities on the oceans and seas,, hundreds of recreational boaters and fishermen too ,,, not a trace but a tackle bag was found which belonged to one of the men ,,, the Robalo they were in was a model which was not foam filled to prevent sinking although Robalo does have models that are foam filled.

Page 131 of the thread ,,, post by Bullrun ,,, Tough day today.

The fact that the extremely extensive search efforts have not turned up a boat, capsized or otherwise; has us presuming Brian and Justin ended up in the water. We arrived here after information from the CG last night that this boat is not foam filled and will sink. Of course we don’t know for sure, or how. The likelihood of surviving 6 days in the water start to get pretty low even for these two guys.

Today we we did the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do- tell my niece and nephew and my son and daughter that daddy/uncle Brian wasn’t coming home. I know anything is possible and they could still be found but we didn’t want to leave them with this ambiguity.

As hard as this chapter has been, the next gets even harder. The world my family knew Friday morning doesn’t exist anymore. We will try to pick up the pieces and do the best we can.

Brian, Stephanie, and their kids.

Bull Run ,, page 165.. My sister Stephanie, Brian's brother Kevin, and mom Carla held a brief press conference in Jacksonville today. They wanted to thank the USGC and partner agencies, JFRD, and the many others who have helped in any way. One small bit of peace we can take away from this ordeal is that due to the exhaustive nature of the search effort, we feel Brian and Justin were not out there and missed. I would like to take this opportunity to specifically thank this forum and the many members who participated in the search, donated, prayed, or helped in any other way. One of the main reasons JFRD had so many private boats and aircraft to direct to search grids was undoubtedly due to this forum and its membership. I can't tell you how many PMs, calls, texts I received from THT from people willing to help. Thank you on behalf of my family.

We still have many questions, What exactly happened? Where specifically is the boat? Who keeps the boys in-line when they come calling for my niece in a few years? Who teaches my nephew how to treat a woman and what it means to be a man? WHY Brian and Justin??? And many more. Some we may never know and some we will figure out as we go.

A donation site has been set up for Brian's family through JFRD; Justin's is there also. I will keep the forum updated on services as I know more.

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