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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881529
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Two years ago I got photos of a truly great, old gnarly buck along with 6-7 others. They were using the area as a travel route. I have not seen him since on any photos, which means I either screwed up and pushed them around-out of the area, he's been more careful about avoiding areas where I have my cameras, or he got whacked.

Since then I've learned more about the area, how the wind affects it, ways to enter-exit and predators I believe are affecting the deer and turkeys. The latter is nonexistent; I've seen only one gobbler and two hens ever in 20 years on the property. (I only put up cameras two years ago). I need to do more predator removal but have been lazy.

As for hunting deer, this year I'll have to be quite selective on days I go based on the wind and conditions. Probably will reduce the number of days I go but so be it.


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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881580
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Clem ,,, I would not Id just find other spots to hunt . A lot of things can change a deer's habits on any given day

A unknown buck may bounce through any where at any time . Just because you can't hunt your hot spot don't mean you wont/can't kill one . You have the time even if it's 15 minutes , go hunting . Ever time you go your odds go up . Ain't no bad spot or time just good and better .

Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881762
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I have done my fair share of scouting and waking through the woods and can say I don’t think I’ve ever bumped a big buck. I’ve jumped deer but usually I don’t even see them I just hear them. Stuff like this I just can’t even comprehend. I’ve hunted 10 years and have seen 2-5 mature bucks on their feet in my lifetime, most while not even hunting. I’m just ranting

Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: Ruger8point] #2881793
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Originally Posted by Ruger8point
I have done my fair share of scouting and waking through the woods and can say I don’t think I’ve ever bumped a big buck. I’ve jumped deer but usually I don’t even see them I just hear them. Stuff like this I just can’t even comprehend. I’ve hunted 10 years and have seen 2-5 mature bucks on their feet in my lifetime, most while not even hunting. I’m just ranting



You'd be surprised at how many you walked by and don't know it .

Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: Frankie] #2881826
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Ruger8point
I have done my fair share of scouting and waking through the woods and can say I don’t think I’ve ever bumped a big buck. I’ve jumped deer but usually I don’t even see them I just hear them. Stuff like this I just can’t even comprehend. I’ve hunted 10 years and have seen 2-5 mature bucks on their feet in my lifetime, most while not even hunting. I’m just ranting



You'd be surprised at how many you walked by and don't know it .

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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881827
08/18/19 05:29 PM
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Back when I was younger, like 28 I believe, I found a GIANT community scrape the size of a car..not a car hood..a freaking car! Dead in the center of a cedar thicket along a swamp. Around 20 to 30 trees all rubbed up all around them. I knew it was a hot spot as it was a huge bedding area.

I had been archery hunting the area and knew 2 of the biggest bucks in the area, and had missed one and knew they both used those cedars, or the swamp.

Opening morning of gun I went in over an hour before first light with a sleeping bag, binos, grunt call and my shotgun and crawled under the cedars to where I was around 70 yards from it. You had to lie down and look UNDER the tree branches because If you stood up it was too thick to see far.

I rolled out the sleeping bag as and laid on it and as it broke first light there was a hot doe in it..stomping her front leg.

Within minutes a young buck came in but too small to shoot. Within 45 minutes I had seen 8 bucks checking out that scrape and smelling where that doe had been.. The last one to come in was one of the big 8 pointers. Surprisingly he came out of the swamp and up the hill on one of the smallest trails, headed to the scrape. He stopped to eat a mushroom at 35 yards and I blasted him in the shoulder with a pumpkin ball slug.

I shot a big 130 inch nine pointer like 5 years ago at 11:15 Xmas am checking a scrape just out of the thicket on a cleared shooting lane, atv trail in Walker county. I posted the story and photos here.

The next year I shot that big 10 pt on a big scrape in one of my roads with thicket on both side. he came right to my drag rag that I hung over the scrape. I also posted that story and the photos of him on here. He was a stud! 140 inch buck.

I shot a big 14 pointer in Walker cty after passing him on video 6 days earlier where he made a few scrapes when I was doing TV. Mistakingly thinking he was too small as he wasnt that wide of a buck. When we reviewed the video we realized it was that big 14 pt I had gotten trail cam pics of! I had screwed up!

I went in 6 days later..my first try at him again, after a big storm as I knew hed come check those scrapes. I shot him an hour and a half later at like 330 or 4 pm coming out of the thicket headed to those scrapes. Ive posted that video on here as well. A 151 inch buck!

At the right time, and the right place scrape hunting is excellent. I hunt scrapes every year. I just only hunt ones in thick bedding cover, and I like to get as far as I can from them though as the bucks always come in front the downwind side, smelling them from a distance Ive found.

My big 170 inch 14 point buck I also shot in thicket where Id found over 30 of his scrapes surrounding it. He was chasing a hot doe with a 150 inch buck and they were getting ready to fight. I posted that story and his pics here too. Another Walker County stud. Again I shot him on a cleared trail/shooting lane going through the thicket. He had just got his head and neck into the other side and I almost didnt get him.

That was the SAME year I shot that 130 inch 9 pointer, so 5 years ago or so.

Hunting scrapes in thickets is WHAT I DO. I learned from that big community scrape in those cedars 30 years ago when I was a youngster and that big 8 pointer!

You can bet this year Ill be setting in a ladder stand 100 plus yards off some scrapes in my thickets more then a few times . thumbup

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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881856
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I too as a kid found an area like what you described ODO. Thick all around, scrapes in an area that was open enough to see 40-50 yards. I screwed up when I told my dad about it. He went in there a few days later and killed a 140" 9pt. There was a little Slough to the right of it. During the rut then those northern peeper frogs are so loud you can't hear a thing. When that buck came walking through every one of those frogs shut up.


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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881858
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Originally Posted by slippinlipjr
I too as a kid found an area like what you described ODO. Thick all around, scrapes in an area that was open enough to see 40-50 yards. I screwed up when I told my dad about it. He went in there a few days later and killed a 140" 9pt. There was a little Slough to the right of it. During the rut then those northern peeper frogs are so loud you can't hear a thing. When that buck came walking through every one of those frogs shut up.



Nice. At least your dad got him.

I told NOONE until it was dragging time..lol. And I didnt want to then but he was heavy as heck. LOL.

Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: ] #2881866
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Originally Posted by slippinlipjr
I too as a kid found an area like what you described ODO. Thick all around, scrapes in an area that was open enough to see 40-50 yards. I screwed up when I told my dad about it. He went in there a few days later and killed a 140" 9pt. There was a little Slough to the right of it. During the rut then those northern peeper frogs are so loud you can't hear a thing. When that buck came walking through every one of those frogs shut up.



Nice. At least your dad got him.

I told NOONE until it was dragging time..lol. And I didnt want to then but he was heavy as heck. LOL.

I had to learn that the hard way. That was my lesson. Lol


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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881872
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Buck #1: The Power line feeder goes off at 7:15am and the buck shows up between 7 and 7:20 every morning.

Buck #2: The Pear tree field feeder goes off at 4pm and the buck shows up before 4:30 every afternoon.

Buck #3: The cotton house feeder goes off at 4:30pm and the buck is always waiting on it.

Buck #4: The creek feeder goes off at 7am and the buck shows up between 6 and 7:15am every morning.

The feeders are filled and the cell cameras are sending the pictures so I'm scouting now sitting in my recliner. This is low pressure hunting so I don't have to worry about the deer changing their pattern from me going in and out to check cameras. I just schedule which buck I want to kill around the football game I want to watch.

Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881898
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#5 is total bs. Killed my two biggest ones both over 140" over scrapes on public land. One at 10:30 am the other right before dark. Got some smaller ones off them too back when I shot immature bucks.

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
#5 is total bs. Killed my two biggest ones both over 140" over scrapes on public land. One at 10:30 am the other right before dark. Got some smaller ones off them too back when I shot immature bucks.

Yes number 5 was just to get folks to disagree. It plainly worked.


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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881919
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Here's a few Baldwin County bigguns. Gonna have to get quailman on one of these this year. One is every bit of 100 class, the other is a 130 class buck.


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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2881975
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Those are the best meat deer .

Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2882001
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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2882049
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I’ve killed a few good bucks on scrapes... then again I’ve hunted scrapes and never seen a buck! I’ve hunted deer I thought I had patterned and never seen him, only for someone to kill him 1/2mioe away. I think it has a lot more to do with luck, and a lot less to do with how skilled we think we are.

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1/2 mile away*

Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: Conecuhbuckz4] #2882297
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Originally Posted by Conecuhbuckz4
I’ve killed a few good bucks on scrapes... then again I’ve hunted scrapes and never seen a buck! I’ve hunted deer I thought I had patterned and never seen him, only for someone to kill him 1/2mioe away. I think it has a lot more to do with luck, and a lot less to do with how skilled we think we are.


Got a lot to do with the fact they are all individuals, similar to people. They have tendencies , that's all you can go off of, they still do the unexpected . That's why never say never and always when dealing with mature bucks.



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Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: 2Dogs] #2882301
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
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Never use "always" and "never" when discussing mature bucks.

Scrapes can be VERY effective when hunting mature bucks IF you know how and when to hunt them.

I’ll add , IF you hunt the RIGHT type of scrapes . Iv seen people get tore up over them pie plate scrapes that show up every year .


Yep. Hot primaries during pre- breeding period on a buck that will move at least some in daylight can cost him his life. Location is a factor too, is the scrape located where a buck feels comfortable coming to in daylight? It may be night time use almost exclusively. Once breeding gets rocking , shift gears. Don't waste prime time sitting over cold scrapes.

Yep, we got 2 good mature bucks on camera last year during daylight Jan 1st checking scrapes, which is right before it all gets kicked off around here.

Re: Let's talk serious deer hunting since we are here. [Re: slippinlipjr] #2882340
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25 years ago I was easing slowly thru a big HW bottom in Sumter county on our 6,000 acre lease. I walked up on a VERY recently made scrape. I slowed my pace a lot. 50-75 yards later I found an even newer, big scrape. I froze and glassed the area. 75 yards ahead of me in open hardwoods I saw and heard the big 8 point making scrape #3, licking branch gland rub.....the whole 9 yards. The wind was in my favor. I shot from a kneeling position in the 2nd scrape. He only ran 30 yards. It was about 10 AM. I have harvested a lot of deer in my 73 years, but that particular experience is one of my most memorable and exciting ever.

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