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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2884178
08/21/19 11:44 AM
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The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.


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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Clem] #2884193
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Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.





Corn gets a pass?

Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2884274
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Joe, my buddy in Coaling will have some for sale in Nov


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Re: Sawtooths [Re: BhamFred] #2884277
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Joe, my buddy in Coaling will have some for sale in Nov


Thanks for the update.

Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2884321
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Originally Posted by Joe4majors
Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.





Corn gets a pass?




Are sawtooths an accepted agriculture crop commonly traded on the open market worldwide and something that's been here for 500 or so years?


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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Clem] #2884341
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Joe4majors
Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.





Corn gets a pass?




Are sawtooths an accepted agriculture crop commonly traded on the open market worldwide and something that's been here for 500 or so years?



Can you please inform our four 20-year old sawtooth oaks that are half dead from being shaded out that they need to start spreading because their buddies kudzu and cogon are having all the fun?

Re: Sawtooths [Re: Clem] #2884959
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Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.




I agree with this post.


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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2885040
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I don't have a problem with planting sawtooths, but I've never had a desire for planting any. I think finding naturally occurring persimmon trees and giving them some sunlight is a quicker and more effective way of accomplishing the same thing.

Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2885151
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One man's opinion, but I'm not going to plant anything that is non-native. I have spent enough time and money fighting kudzu, privet, cogongrass, climbing fern and mimosa trees that I don't want anything else planted that shouldn't be there. Exception is the annual food plot crops like wheat, oats and soybeans.

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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2885761
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Sawtooth Oaks fill a void in the acorn crop by dropping earlier than other oaks.


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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2885824
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Wheat, Oats, Rice,Pears,Peaches, Apples, Chestnuts and even Turnips came from Europe. This is just a small list and I have planted most of them for the wildlife.

Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2887488
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2-4??? Come by my place. You can have 20-40. My wife and kids are starting a tree farm soon to include Sawtooth. That will be about another year, but for now they are still free. You can be a "grass roots" client and tell all of your buddies!!


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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2915913
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We planted about 40 sawtooths on our club in Pickens County about 20 years ago. The trees are massive now and produce a ton or mast for the deer. But yes, they drop early and all the mast is gone by October 15th. So although they aren't great to hunt over, they provide a huge amount of food for our deer. We don't regret planting them at all.

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Originally Posted by Ramblin99
We planted about 40 sawtooths on our club in Pickens County about 20 years ago. The trees are massive now and produce a ton or mast for the deer. But yes, they drop early and all the mast is gone by October 15th. So although they aren't great to hunt over, they provide a huge amount of food for our deer. We don't regret planting them at all.

I hope you didn't plant tree's on leased land. No way in hell I would do that. I hope it was your land.

Re: Sawtooths [Re: demp17] #2920734
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Originally Posted by demp17
I bought some last year from a nursery somewhere down around Cullman and all of them have survived and have done really well. They were bare root and I think I paid $10 per tree and most were between 8-10ft tall.

Place is called North Alabama Nursery and its in Joppa, had someone from here recommend it.


North Alabama Nursery is a great place to deal with. About 5 years ago I bought 25 Leyland Cypress ($6 each for 5 footers) from them and he threw in 6 just in case I lost a few. That was on a Saturday and they are closed on Saturday but for the amount I was buying he met me and had the trees ready.


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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2920940
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Sawtooths are the bomb.


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Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2921527
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Our sawtooths are dropping now and are being vacuumed up by the deer

Re: Sawtooths [Re: Joe4majors] #2922936
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Whats the problem with planting sawtooths? I have about 50 we planted in 200
They are huge produce a ton of acorns, deer love them, turkey love them.
I have 60 small ones marked for a friend to come get and plant
On his place later.

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We planted in 2000 not 200 sorry

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