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AR Pistol Braces.
#2877442
08/13/19 12:23 PM
08/13/19 12:23 PM
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gundoc
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I'm hearing rumblings the ATF under Trumps direction is about to reclassify braced pistols as SBRs...
I've heard it from 2 different sources, but it still just scuttlebutt and this point.
Any one else heard anything about this
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: gundoc]
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08/13/19 12:29 PM
08/13/19 12:29 PM
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GKelly
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I'm hearing rumblings the ATF under Trumps direction is about to reclassify braced pistols as SBRs...
I've heard it from 2 different sources, but it still just scuttlebutt and this point.
Any one else heard anything about this I saw that coming the day they made the opinion to allow them thats why I SBR'd mine anyway.
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: gundoc]
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08/13/19 12:38 PM
08/13/19 12:38 PM
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GKelly
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so if they reclassify them what do you do while waiting on a tax stamp? youve already assembled an SBR without a tax stamp do you just break it back down into parts while you wait or just put a regular old non braced pistol buffer tube on it?
Last edited by GKelly; 08/13/19 12:39 PM.
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: GKelly]
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08/13/19 01:04 PM
08/13/19 01:04 PM
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gundoc
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so if they reclassify them what do you do while waiting on a tax stamp? youve already assembled an SBR without a tax stamp do you just break it back down into parts while you wait or just put a regular old non braced pistol buffer tube on it? Good question. I guess folks who own them will just have to wait and see what happens. This is precisely why I didn't/don't like the platform. Too easy to change the legality of them based on someone's interpretation
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
~ unknown
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: gundoc]
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08/13/19 01:44 PM
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CKyleC
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I've heard it. The two people I've heard it from are as reliable and connected as someone outside of the BATF can be. It's pretty much a done deal
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: GKelly]
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08/13/19 02:44 PM
08/13/19 02:44 PM
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so if they reclassify them what do you do while waiting on a tax stamp? You go ahead and throw a suppressor on it...If you're gonna be a felon, might as well be a quiet one.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: KHOOKS]
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08/13/19 04:29 PM
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looks like shucks like this would grand daddy in if you already have them. This sucks cause I was going to order a CMMG Banshee 300 in 9mm around X-mas. Now I may have to go the NFA route and cost me $200 and more time. nope theyll use the same logic they did with bumpstocks.I been telling people this would happen for years to just go ahead and SBR it and be done with it. ATF opinion letters mean nothing they can change them whenever they feel like it.
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: gundoc]
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08/13/19 04:35 PM
08/13/19 04:35 PM
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GomerPyle
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Hypothetical....if you wanted a SBR that was suppressed, would you have to pay for 2 stamps (1 for the SBR and 1 for the Suppressor)? Or is it just one for the weapon as a whole?
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: GomerPyle]
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08/13/19 05:29 PM
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CKyleC
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Hypothetical....if you wanted a SBR that was suppressed, would you have to pay for 2 stamps (1 for the SBR and 1 for the Suppressor)? Or is it just one for the weapon as a whole?
If you permanently attach the suppressor, and it's 16" or longer, one stamp
Last edited by CKyleC; 08/13/19 06:35 PM.
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: GKelly]
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08/13/19 06:37 PM
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looks like shucks like this would grand daddy in if you already have them. This sucks cause I was going to order a CMMG Banshee 300 in 9mm around X-mas. Now I may have to go the NFA route and cost me $200 and more time. nope theyll use the same logic they did with bumpstocks.I been telling people this would happen for years to just go ahead and SBR it and be done with it. ATF opinion letters mean nothing they can change them whenever they feel like it. Well from my understanding they are coming under fire because the Dayton shooter used a Ar Pistol in the shooting
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
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08/13/19 07:40 PM
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looks like shucks like this would grand daddy in if you already have them. This sucks cause I was going to order a CMMG Banshee 300 in 9mm around X-mas. Now I may have to go the NFA route and cost me $200 and more time. nope theyll use the same logic they did with bumpstocks.I been telling people this would happen for years to just go ahead and SBR it and be done with it. ATF opinion letters mean nothing they can change them whenever they feel like it. Well from my understanding they are coming under fire because the Dayton shooter used a Ar Pistol in the shooting And then all the people that had nothing to do with it get punished. Oughta be some kind of spray for liberals.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: CKyleC]
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08/13/19 07:48 PM
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Hypothetical....if you wanted a SBR that was suppressed, would you have to pay for 2 stamps (1 for the SBR and 1 for the Suppressor)? Or is it just one for the weapon as a whole?
If you permanently attach the suppressor, and it's 16" or longer, one stamp It’s not an SBR if it’s over 16” though. The answer is yes, two stamps, if the barrel is less than 16” (with permanently pinned or soldered suppressor, or without it being permanent).
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: Cynical]
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08/13/19 08:01 PM
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CKyleC
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A FFL 07/02 SOT can manufacture a <16" integrally suppressed rifle and it only be one stamp. There's not many of these in the wild, or many people building them, but it is possible
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/13/19 08:10 PM
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looks like shucks like this would grand daddy in if you already have them. This sucks cause I was going to order a CMMG Banshee 300 in 9mm around X-mas. Now I may have to go the NFA route and cost me $200 and more time. nope theyll use the same logic they did with bumpstocks.I been telling people this would happen for years to just go ahead and SBR it and be done with it. ATF opinion letters mean nothing they can change them whenever they feel like it. Well from my understanding they are coming under fire because the Dayton shooter used a Ar Pistol in the shooting And then all the people that had nothing to do with it get punished. Oughta be some kind of spray for liberals. Roundup, but it would take awhile and they might get a monetary settlement.
A mans got to know his limitations.
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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08/13/19 08:19 PM
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James
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looks like shucks like this would grand daddy in if you already have them. This sucks cause I was going to order a CMMG Banshee 300 in 9mm around X-mas. Now I may have to go the NFA route and cost me $200 and more time. nope theyll use the same logic they did with bumpstocks.I been telling people this would happen for years to just go ahead and SBR it and be done with it. ATF opinion letters mean nothing they can change them whenever they feel like it. Well from my understanding they are coming under fire because the Dayton shooter used a Ar Pistol in the shooting And then all the people that had nothing to do with it get punished. Oughta be some kind of spray for liberals. But of course. And i don't think it'll end here either
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: CKyleC]
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08/13/19 08:36 PM
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A FFL 07/02 SOT can manufacture a <16" integrally suppressed rifle and it only be one stamp. There's not many of these in the wild, or many people building them, but it is possible I am a manufacturer, with a class 2 SOT. I stand by my answer: Two stamps.
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Re: AR Pistol Braces.
[Re: Cynical]
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08/13/19 11:18 PM
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gundoc
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A FFL 07/02 SOT can manufacture a <16" integrally suppressed rifle and it only be one stamp. There's not many of these in the wild, or many people building them, but it is possible I am a manufacturer, with a class 2 SOT. I stand by my answer: Two stamps. Y'all originally said the same thing, just differently
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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