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Public land woes and new pot call question #2875721
08/11/19 08:21 AM
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Couple questions.

Does anyone have recommendations for a high quality pot call with a slate surface?

Also, I'm planning on hunting public land this coming season and I've had lots of issues in the past. I give it up for quite a while because of this. The problem I've had is when I start working one, other hunters will either hear it and move in to work it themselves and/or spook it off in the process, or I'll have someone just walking through and not have a clue I'm there, or a Turkey is there, and completely blow the hunt. This has happened without fail every time I've worked a bird, except one.

One way I've tried to work around this in the past is to go during the week when there's less people. Sometimes that doesn't even work, one time it did work, but I'm not always able to go during the week.

Do you guys have any ideas, tips, tactics, for working around this issue to be successful. I appreciate it in advance.

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2875808
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Hunt in the middle of the week and call as little as possible. If the bird answers you he knows exactly where you are. If he’s gonna come he will find you. Calling to much alerts other hunters and makes public land birds spooky.


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Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2875879
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I’ve hunted a lot of public land and can honestly say it’s very seldom that another hunter has screwed me up when I’m working a bird. Maybe you should get further from the truck or concentrate on places where there is not much access from other parking areas.

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2875902
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Atoler is right. I’m very strategic with how and where I park my vehicle. The more land you can block off for yourself the better...... without being a jerk of course 😀
I’ve had hunts messed up a couple times but not many.



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Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2875914
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I’ve only had very few hunts on public land that didn’t have another hunter trying to move into my setup. The distance I walk didn’t seem to matter, either.


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Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2875944
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I’ve never had issues on public land but I hunt places no one “thinks” they’re are turkeys. Also I’ve had most of my success between 10-2 not off the roost.

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: jlbuc10] #2875978
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Originally Posted by jlbuc10
I’ve never had issues on public land but I hunt places no one “thinks” they’re are turkeys. Also I’ve had most of my success between 10-2 not off the roost.

Amen.

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: N2TRKYS] #2875981
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
I’ve only had very few hunts on public land that didn’t have another hunter trying to move into my setup. The distance I walk didn’t seem to matter, either.

This is my experience. No matter how hard I worked to get away from folks, someone would move in on me, or randomly come walking by. The time that I haven't had someone move in on me was during the week. This maybe what I have to do, but I wont get to do it often. You wouldnt believe the locations people drive from on the weekends. 3-4hr drive is nothing for a skyline Turkey hunter. I've met people from all over the state Turkey hunting there.

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: Atoler] #2875983
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Originally Posted by Atoler
I’ve hunted a lot of public land and can honestly say it’s very seldom that another hunter has screwed me up when I’m working a bird. Maybe you should get further from the truck or concentrate on places where there is not much access from other parking areas.

I'm with you on the limited parking type spots. It's something I need to focus on if I hunt the weekend.

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: Dublgrumpy] #2875994
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Originally Posted by Dublgrumpy
Originally Posted by jlbuc10
I’ve never had issues on public land but I hunt places no one “thinks” they’re are turkeys. Also I’ve had most of my success between 10-2 not off the roost.

Amen.

You should try skyline sometime. Hunting after 10 is a good idea, I'm gona give it a try. So are you hunting birds you located earlier in the morning? How do you make it work?

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: Snuffy] #2876178
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Originally Posted by Snuffy
Hunt in the middle of the week and call as little as possible. If the bird answers you he knows exactly where you are. If he’s gonna come he will find you. Calling to much alerts other hunters and makes public land birds spooky.

Good advice. So if he answers once and is bird willing, will he still find me even if I dont call anymore? Or should I give a follow up call or 2?

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Dont park your truck in the same spot in your favorite area over and over. Lost a good spot by doing this.


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Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2876285
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As the season goes on, a gobbler starts losing his hens to a degree as time passes & the hens go to nest. They can be vulnerable to calling way up in the morning as his hens leave him & he gets lonesome. He may or may not have gobbled on the roost- if he has- good, you at least know his area. If you have heard him in the morning at daylight but haven't been able to call him up for whatever reason, try him later in the morning & he may be ready to come on to you if his hens have left him. Afternoons can be real good to for even more reasons. Be ready for fast shots at times when hunting them later in the day. Sometimes they can come running & catch you off guard. Have killed several like this that came in fast but never gobbled. Heard them in the leaves & drumming. Wind can also hurt you a lot when going after them like this. You need to really listen hard & also know what to listen for other than a gobble.

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2876418
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If you think you've walked far enough away from the road/parking area to avoid other hunters, walk that much further.

when you do kill one, stop and spend 10-15 minutes and pick up EVERY. SINGLE. BIT. OF. EVIDENCE. Pick up the spent shell, pick up the wad if you can find it. Pick up EVERY FEATHER. If there's bare dirt with blood, kick some dust over it to cover the blood. Leave as little evidence as humanly possible.

As others have said, pay close attention to where, and how you park. I will try to lead people where I want them to go by parking in one place and then circling around to a different area. I'll even make sure to leave obvious boot tracks going in the opposite direction for a bit before hopping out of the trail to a spot where I won't leave tracks, then backtrack. .....distract and mislead.


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Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2876500
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Yep, he already knows where you are. It’s ok to call a few more times. Just remember the more he gobbles the more hunters you will draw.
Originally Posted by JBL
Originally Posted by Snuffy
Hunt in the middle of the week and call as little as possible. If the bird answers you he knows exactly where you are. If he’s gonna come he will find you. Calling to much alerts other hunters and makes public land birds spooky.

Good advice. So if he answers once and is bird willing, will he still find me even if I dont call anymore? Or should I give a follow up call or 2?


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I hunted in a club this past season where they had a 100 acre piece that was surrounded by public land. I killed a couple birds off the public land surrounding it by using the 100 acre club piece to get me in deeper, quicker.

One thing I learned is that you cannot make the bird gobble much. If hes gobbling...folks are coming. I toned my calling down a lot and was a lot more patient on waiting the bird out.

I also learned to get a lot closer in my set ups to the bird before calling him so I had less of a chance of being cut off by other hunters. Usually 100 yards or so before I ever made a call to him.

Everyday I had folks trying to come in on me though. Everyday.

Theyd be crow calling and hooting from my truck parking space at first light everyday as well. Literally right at my truck. I saw the one guy a few days in a row right at my tailgate trying to see if I had one gobbling. Id be in a log landing SMDH watching the guy.

Opening am one guy cut me off on a bird ON the private land. He definitely crossed the line to shoot it too.

You Have to hunt a lot different then public land or folks will be all over you screwing up your hunt.

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Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2876651
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Park on public, hunt the private


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Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2876702
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Great advise guys, thanks, keep'em comin

Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: JBL] #2876705
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Public land hunting has become more like mall shopping. It's crowded with morons.


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Re: Public land woes and new pot call question [Re: foldemup] #2876708
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Originally Posted by foldemup
Park on public, hunt the private

It's still going to be just as crowded haha

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