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GW ranting spinoff #2854966
07/18/19 07:40 PM
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I know some of you have cursed wardens, the police and such for being a holes. I figured thatd be a sure fire way to get a ticket. I assume you can and not get fined in some way for it?

Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2854980
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if anything you could be charged with disorderly conduct

Section 13A-11-7
Disorderly conduct.
(a) A person commits the crime of disorderly conduct if, with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he or she does any of the following:

(1) Engages in fighting or in violent tumultuous or threatening behavior.

(2) Makes unreasonable noise.

(3) In a public place uses abusive or obscene language or makes an obscene gesture
.

(4) Without lawful authority, disturbs any lawful assembly or meeting of persons.

(5) Obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic, or a transportation facility.

(6) Congregates with other person in a public place and refuses to comply with a lawful order of law enforcement to disperse.

(b) Disorderly conduct is a Class C misdemeanor.

(c) It shall be a rebuttable presumption that the mere carrying of a visible pistol, holstered or secured, in a public place, in and of itself, is not a violation of this section.

(d) Nothing in Act 2013-283 shall be construed to prohibit law enforcement personnel who have reasonable suspicion from acting to prevent a breach of the peace or from taking action to preserve public safety.

(Acts 1977, No. 607, p. 812, §5525; Act 2013-283, §§2, 10.)


Turkey’s tell you when they want to die not lawmakers.
Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855003
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If I get a ticket for telling a GW to GFY because he wrote a stupid ticket, that is something I'm sure I will have no problem finding a lawyer to defend me. Respect is earned, it is mot given, even if you wear a badge.


Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales

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Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855005
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If you are an ass to the game warden, then he can be an ass back at you, and win. He could go check you in the stand at 4:30 every time he sees your truck for example. I look at it like this, the game warden is doing a job that a lot of folks would not want to do, yet it is a needed job.

Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: AU338MAG] #2855008
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
If I get a ticket for telling a GW to GFY because he wrote a stupid ticket, that is something I'm sure I will have no problem finding a lawyer to defend me. Respect is earned, it is mot given, even if you wear a badge.


it wont be a ticket, it will be silver bracelets and trip to the county jail if he was really wanting to make a point


Turkey’s tell you when they want to die not lawmakers.
Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855043
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I don't understand the need for resistance. First it was the left wing and now right conservatives. My god folks LEOs and GWs are just normal people with a pile of stress and dealing with everyone's BS. Don't suck and be normal and you'll be fine.

Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bhammedic84] #2855051
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Originally Posted by bhammedic84
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
If I get a ticket for telling a GW to GFY because he wrote a stupid ticket, that is something I'm sure I will have no problem finding a lawyer to defend me. Respect is earned, it is mot given, even if you wear a badge.


it wont be a ticket, it will be silver bracelets and trip to the county jail if he was really wanting to make a point

That would be a good day for an attorney. My attorney.


Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales

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Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855061
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No. You can not be charged for cussing a LEO

How ever , any body else can . Lol

Been there done that bought the shirt

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Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: AU338MAG] #2855068
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by bhammedic84
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
If I get a ticket for telling a GW to GFY because he wrote a stupid ticket, that is something I'm sure I will have no problem finding a lawyer to defend me. Respect is earned, it is mot given, even if you wear a badge.


it wont be a ticket, it will be silver bracelets and trip to the county jail if he was really wanting to make a point

That would be a good day for an attorney. My attorney.

why would it be a good day. i mean hell you break the law then you pay the price.. plus a number of the wardens i know now wear body cams so its not you said/he said deal if it on camera you acting a fool to the point of getting a disorderly charge then sorry for ya but and reputable lawyer will say sorry bud..

i tell ya what respect them and they will respect them, act like an ass and get treated the same. it goes back to what you probably have been told as a kid "treat people the way you want to be treated"

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Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855084
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The ones I have had issue with, are the ones who get out of their truck and immediately go to ass mode, wothout me ever saying a word to them. Things would go a lot smother if they used a little tact and courtesy. Please note I said the ones ‘I have had issue with, not all of them, or everyone I have had dealings with.

Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855086
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I may be mistaken but a few years ago didnt a federal appeals court rule that cursing at a LEO was protected under free speech. threatening an officer will get you arrested but just insulting him is protected.Im sure cussing can still get you arrested since a LEO can charge you with anything but its up to a court to convict you.

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Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bhammedic84] #2855135
07/18/19 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bhammedic84
if anything you could be charged with disorderly conduct

Section 13A-11-7
Disorderly conduct.
(a) A person commits the crime of disorderly conduct if, with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he or she does any of the following:

(1) Engages in fighting or in violent tumultuous or threatening behavior.

(2) Makes unreasonable noise.

(3) In a public place uses abusive or obscene language or makes an obscene gesture
.

(4) Without lawful authority, disturbs any lawful assembly or meeting of persons.

(5) Obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic, or a transportation facility.

(6) Congregates with other person in a public place and refuses to comply with a lawful order of law enforcement to disperse.

(b) Disorderly conduct is a Class C misdemeanor.

(c) It shall be a rebuttable presumption that the mere carrying of a visible pistol, holstered or secured, in a public place, in and of itself, is not a violation of this section.

(d) Nothing in Act 2013-283 shall be construed to prohibit law enforcement personnel who have reasonable suspicion from acting to prevent a breach of the peace or from taking action to preserve public safety.

(Acts 1977, No. 607, p. 812, §5525; Act 2013-283, §§2, 10.)

No. There is case law from the Alabama Supreme Court that says police officers are not the public and you can not be convicted of disorderly conduct for your actions towards police. I believe the case is Smith v. Anniston.

The case basically says that police officers should have thick skin.

Last edited by doekiller; 07/18/19 10:38 PM.
Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855138
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Basically has to be “fighting words”

Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855141
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Anybody who thinks they’re gonna go toe to toe with a badge and win in the short term is a complete dumbass. You might get the case dismissed or whatever, but your going to tote an ass whoopin or hang out in a jail until you see a judge.

Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: doekiller] #2855147
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Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by bhammedic84
if anything you could be charged with disorderly conduct

Section 13A-11-7
Disorderly conduct.
(a) A person commits the crime of disorderly conduct if, with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he or she does any of the following:

(1) Engages in fighting or in violent tumultuous or threatening behavior.

(2) Makes unreasonable noise.

(3) In a public place uses abusive or obscene language or makes an obscene gesture
.

(4) Without lawful authority, disturbs any lawful assembly or meeting of persons.

(5) Obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic, or a transportation facility.

(6) Congregates with other person in a public place and refuses to comply with a lawful order of law enforcement to disperse.

(b) Disorderly conduct is a Class C misdemeanor.

(c) It shall be a rebuttable presumption that the mere carrying of a visible pistol, holstered or secured, in a public place, in and of itself, is not a violation of this section.

(d) Nothing in Act 2013-283 shall be construed to prohibit law enforcement personnel who have reasonable suspicion from acting to prevent a breach of the peace or from taking action to preserve public safety.

(Acts 1977, No. 607, p. 812, §5525; Act 2013-283, §§2, 10.)

No. There is case law from the Alabama Supreme Court that says police officers are not the public and you can not be convicted of disorderly conduct for your actions towards police. I believe the case is Smith v. Anniston.

The case basically says that police officers should have thick skin.




Yep , just what a judge said in my case ..


If yuo cuss a regular person they can sign a warrant on you . For foul language or also for provoking an assault

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Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855150
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I came real close to doing some jail time because a couple jake leg tallassee city cops way back when . I got out of ever thing but they toted that ass whopping for awhile

Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bhammedic84] #2855172
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Originally Posted by bhammedic84
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by bhammedic84
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
If I get a ticket for telling a GW to GFY because he wrote a stupid ticket, that is something I'm sure I will have no problem finding a lawyer to defend me. Respect is earned, it is mot given, even if you wear a badge.


it wont be a ticket, it will be silver bracelets and trip to the county jail if he was really wanting to make a point

That would be a good day for an attorney. My attorney.

why would it be a good day. i mean hell you break the law then you pay the price.. plus a number of the wardens i know now wear body cams so its not you said/he said deal if it on camera you acting a fool to the point of getting a disorderly charge then sorry for ya but and reputable lawyer will say sorry bud..

i tell ya what respect them and they will respect them, act like an ass and get treated the same. it goes back to what you probably have been told as a kid "treat people the way you want to be treated"

I have no problem if he's doing his job, but when they start giving tickets like in an earlier post for fishing without a license, or like I got 30 years ago from a GW, I'm not going to be silent.

I've had good and bad experiences with LEO's, and there have even been a couple of times when I probably should have been arrested or gotten a ticket. I knew it and was thankful and expressed my thanks to the LEO. I've also experienced the type of dickhead LEO who abuses the authority granted to them. This type usually reveal themselves right away when you interact with them, and they do not deserve, nor shall they receive any respect from me.


Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales

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Re: GW ranting spinoff [Re: bowtarist] #2855287
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For the record, I always show them respect and have never had any issues. All the GW's I've dealt with have been very respectful. What I'm talking about is like what's been mentioned before. They get out and immediately go to A hole mode without a reason. I got pulled over one morning on my way to work for passing a broke down car on a double line. Cop gets out and informs me I'm getting a ticket for it and is a real prick about it. Heck I didnt know it was against the law. I apologized and was very respectful but he stayed in dickhead mode.

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I have found it is best to just avoid them completely. I dont come or go the same way. My truck is parked behind the house (not in view from road). I walk everywhere. I have a cell cam at my gates. If I see them I just leave a different way.

If I see someone standing there I usually turn around and go out another way. No confrontation means I have fewer problems. Hell I need the exercise anyway.


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this auto azzhole goes both ways. I stopped a fella one afternoon on the Warrior above Lock 7 for pulling a girl on skis w/o an observer or mirror, and cutting between shore and the bridge beam. When I pulled up to his boat he said"What in the hell do you want?\" Well now I wanted to warn you but now I want to see yer license because you are under arrest. Attitudes can get ya in or out of trouble depending on what kind ya show.


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