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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285303
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Hey, anybody notice the bucks harvested under the feeding program must have at least 3 pts on one side. Sounds like they are taking the first step headed toward Mississippi.

Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Blessed] #285341
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Originally Posted By: Blessed
Montgomery is crooked just like the rest of the Political world .

shocked ^^^



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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285344
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I'm on the phone with Gov Bentley. You guys won't me to tell him anything....?


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285359
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It's gonna pass.....


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285370
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I bet Dan moultrie will be a happy son of a gun!


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285387
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Dan Moultrie has stayed out of the discussions that I have heard in the past and since he has been on the board, like the gentleman that he is. I thought he sold Moultrie shortly after he was appointed and had since acted as a "consultant". Thats a very common practice for folks that sell out of a business like that.
I seriously doubt that it will pass. If it does after they get through with it there will be no resemblance to what is proposed.
I dang sure object to them telling me where I can put it, on my own property, just as I do someone telling me where I can place a dam stand or shoot my gun.


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Big Jack] #285406
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So let me get this straight....

A feeder has to be within 200 yards of a foodplot measuring at least 1 acre in size, 300 feet from a property line, 100 or more yards from a hunter yet not in a hunters line of sight, 500 feet from a public road, and any potential buck harvest has to have at least 3 points of 1 inch or more? And to do all this I have to buy a permit and pay a fee??

Does anyone else think this is INSANE?!?!?!?

If I have to break out my calculator, measuring tape and old high school Geometry book to try and figure out where it's legal to put up a feeder on my 470 acres, it has offically gotten to the point of RIDICULOUS!

They should do it this way: Feeding deer is allowed or it ain't. JMO

Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285408
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I may be wrong, but I don't think the CAB had anything to do with this. I think it was a state rep from Wadley, or some town that starts with a W...


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Big Jack] #285411
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Originally Posted By: Big Jack
Dan Moultrie has stayed out of the discussions that I have heard in the past and since he has been on the board, like the gentleman that he is. I thought he sold Moultrie shortly after he was appointed and had since acted as a "consultant". Thats a very common practice for folks that sell out of a business like that.


Just because he sold out of it doesn't mean he doesn't still have a financial stake in it. Many terms of corporate sales such as that include stock options that are directly related to the wellbeing of the company going forward.

Basically, just because he isn't still the principal owner of the company, doesn't mean he's not benefitting if they do well.

That said, I do not know Dan Moultrie, nor know what the terms of his sale were.


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: FurFlyin] #285415
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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
I may be wrong, but I don't think the CAB had anything to do with this. I think it was a state rep from Wadley, or some town that starts with a W...


Daniel Boman is from Fayette who was elected as a Republican, then switched to the Democrat party after being elected.

Juandalynn "Lee Lee" Givan is a black female from Birmingham.

Those are your two sponsors of the bill in the legislature. Something is ROTTEN in Montgomery.


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: FurFlyin] #285417
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This law will be a way for game wardens to write tickets that won't get thrown out and for DNCR to generate more revenue.

It's as though there saying....you want to hunt over bait...fine...but we're gonna make it tough to do and we're gonna hit you in the wallet.


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285439
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I'll bet the DCNR and CAB members and probably the deer biologists and game wardens, and maybe a legisslater, all got together over big ceegars and fat wimmens and started throwing ideas against the wall.

"Hey, throw in a 100-yard line of sight clause!"

"Who has the biggest shoe in the room? Size 15? OK, make the protein have to be 15 percent!"

Then they all went to a Biscuits game and had a jolly time.

This bill reeks of the last few baiting bills that were introduced. Similar requirements - distance, protein percentage, etc. None of them passed, either.

Certainly will be interesting to see how this one does with Corky retired and not rattling around in the Statehouse like he and Charles did for almost 50 years.


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285448
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Stick a piece of plywood in front of the feeder, run a disc around in the edge of the woods if your plot isn't up to the one acre magic number and throw a handful of ground cow hair (it's 100% protien isn't it) in your corn and choot'em. grin

Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: timbercruiser] #285451
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run a disc around in the edge of the woods if your plot isn't up to the one acre magic number


That's a darn good idea.


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: hunterbuck] #285482
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Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
I may be wrong, but I don't think the CAB had anything to do with this. I think it was a state rep from Wadley, or some town that starts with a W...


Daniel Boman is from Fayette who was elected as a Republican, then switched to the Democrat party after being elected.

Juandalynn "Lee Lee" Givan is a black female from Birmingham.

Those are your two sponsors of the bill in the legislature. Something is ROTTEN in Montgomery.


I'm just going to go ahead and assume this Givan lady doesn't hunt, so why the heck does she have anything to do with it. This is 100% BS from a anti baiter or a baiter. Good luck Mr. Solo game warden who is expected to cover an entire county and now verify that said buck is killed precisely 200 yds from, 1 acre foodplot, 300 feet from property line, and the horns have to have 3 on one side measuring 1" min. (why, what's the point in the measly stupid arse rule)? My gosh, that just don't sound very enforceable, BUT MAYBE THAT's JUST ME.

Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: PaschalBD] #285487
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Originally Posted By: tiderbd
This law will be a way for game wardens to write tickets that won't get thrown out and for DNCR to generate more revenue.

It's as though there saying....you want to hunt over bait...fine...but we're gonna make it tough to do and we're gonna hit you in the wallet.



I see it differently. I see it as a money machine for the state but not from writing tickets, but from the sale of corn and feeders and feeder permits. I see it as a way to legalize baiting but to appease the anti baiters they are making all these BS rules that everyone knows can't be enforced. And at least 15% protein???? Even during the winter??? WHY??? shows how little the idiots know that are proposing this crap.

Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: truedouble] #285494
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Originally Posted By: truedouble
Originally Posted By: tiderbd
This law will be a way for game wardens to write tickets that won't get thrown out and for DNCR to generate more revenue.

It's as though there saying....you want to hunt over bait...fine...but we're gonna make it tough to do and we're gonna hit you in the wallet.



I see it differently. I see it as a money machine for the state but not from writing tickets, but from the sale of corn and feeders and feeder permits. I see it as a way to legalize baiting but to appease the anti baiters they are making all these BS rules that everyone knows can't be enforced. And at least 15% protein???? Even during the winter??? WHY??? shows how little the idiots know that are proposing this crap.


Good points


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285500
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I am not sure why they would specify 15% protien all the time. If you were going to do this wouldn't it be better to feed corn in winter and switch to protein in the spring.


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Skinny] #285504
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They left out one thing, you have to have permanent metal tags affixed to the deer's antlers before moving the deer and the tag shall never be removed no matter what the circumstance!! You know just to make sure to have something that is enforcable and all.

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Bring on the Encyclopedia Britanica's world of Rules, regulations and laws.

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Sorry, I passed out for a moment!


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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature [Re: Dquailhunter] #285507
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Originally Posted By: Dquailhunter
Can they honestly make something anymore complicated?


That's the exact problem with the legislature making game laws. I will be willing to bet that the CAB has nothing to do with it. Haven't heard from 49R but I bet the "anti hunting" group, the Alabama Wildlife Federation, will lobby HARD against it.


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