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Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help #2774441 03/31/19 01:08 PM 03/31/19 01:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 24 Alabama, Mobile H Hornmtn OP spike
Hornmtn OP spike H Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 24 Alabama, Mobile	I had a gunsmith mount a Meopta 6.5-20x50 in Talley rings on a Weatherby Vanguard 30-06. Rifle shot great but was 3 inches low at 100 yards and no adjustment to come up. Any ideas on what could be wrong? Never had a rifle I couldn’t zero at 100 yards and had hoped to be able to dial to 400 with this scope. Talley is sending me new rings to try, but I’m not sure that is the problem.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2774463 03/31/19 01:39 PM 03/31/19 01:39 PM
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burbank Booner Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,738 Hoover	Sounds like a defective scope.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2774557 03/31/19 03:17 PM 03/31/19 03:17 PM
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R_H_Clark Leupold Pro Staff R Joined: May 2012 Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama	could be the mounts binding internals from tightness or torque,or some other alignment issues other than just a bad scope. have to check it all. If receiver is drilled off ,compensation can be had with Burris signature rings using offset inserts. How good is your gunsmith? Were the rings lapped,aligned,and torqued with a torque wrench,or were they just installed? Last edited by R_H_Clark; 03/31/19 04:17 PM.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2774924 03/31/19 09:56 PM 03/31/19 09:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe gundoc 14 point
gundoc 14 point Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe	Way too many possibilities of things that could be wrong. Without being able to look at it no one here can say with any certainty what may be wrong. You're best bet would be to take it back to the 'smith and let him figure it out... Assuming he knows what he's doing to start with. There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be! ~ unknown

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2774932 03/31/19 10:02 PM 03/31/19 10:02 PM
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dave260rem! Skinny’s Ex Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,691 behind my Dillon	Try different ammo too. Only hits count.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2776587 04/03/19 09:29 AM 04/03/19 09:29 AM
Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 52 USA B Barton spike
Barton spike B Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 52 USA	To understand what you are saying, with all the adjustment in the scope, you maxed out the elevation and you are still 3 inches low? Do you have any MOA built into the base ? There should be plenty of elevation to get you zeroed, I will be interested to see if new rings make a difference. Last edited by Barton; 04/03/19 09:30 AM. Reason: sp Bart

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2776737 04/03/19 01:59 PM 04/03/19 01:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 24 Alabama, Mobile H Hornmtn OP spike
Hornmtn OP spike H Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 24 Alabama, Mobile	Thats correct, it was 3 inches low at 100 yards with no elevation left on scope to come up. It is Talley rings no moa built into base. I know it is an option to get a 20 moa base but it is a Weatherby Vanguard hunting rifle I wanted to keep it simple. Also wanted to be able to dial with the scope. Taking it to the gunsmith now with new rings I will report back what he says.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2776788 04/03/19 03:03 PM 04/03/19 03:03 PM
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Goatkiller 14 point Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,160 B'ham	Put a multi slot Weaver base and some Burris Signature Rings on it. It's just a better system with more adjustment all the way around and in every way. Unless you had to move the scope way over to the left/right as well... it is highly unlikely that the barrel is crooked. Either the scope of the mounts. Likely the mounts. No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2776824 04/03/19 04:16 PM 04/03/19 04:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL J joshm28 14 point
joshm28 14 point J Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL	You didnt by chance by the 20MOA rings did you? If you did then the smith put them on in the wrong orientation.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Goatkiller] #2776934 04/03/19 07:30 PM 04/03/19 07:30 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama R R_H_Clark Leupold Pro Staff
R_H_Clark Leupold Pro Staff R Joined: May 2012 Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama	Originally Posted by Goatkiller Put a multi slot Weaver base and some Burris Signature Rings on it. It's just a better system with more adjustment all the way around and in every way. Unless you had to move the scope way over to the left/right as well... it is highly unlikely that the barrel is crooked. Either the scope of the mounts. Likely the mounts. I'm betting the mounts were mixed up somewhere and one is the wrong height.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2776936 04/03/19 07:32 PM 04/03/19 07:32 PM
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Wiley Coyote Freak of Nature W Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 44,211 North Alabama	Rotate it 180 degrees I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time. NRA Life Member

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: joshm28] #2777076 04/03/19 10:08 PM 04/03/19 10:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe gundoc 14 point
gundoc 14 point Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe	Originally Posted by joshm28 You didnt by chance by the 20MOA rings did you? If you did then the smith put them on in the wrong orientation. That's kinda what I was thinking too. Either that or like R H said, the rings are mixed up. I would hope whoever mounted it would catch either though. I doubt the barrel is crooked There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be! ~ unknown

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2777085 04/03/19 10:39 PM 04/03/19 10:39 PM
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BCLC Old Mossy Horns Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 15,342 Ourtown, AL	Which turrets does your Meopta have? If it's the MeoTrack TRZ or RZ turrets make sure the gunsmith didn't accidentally set the zero at the wrong elevation. We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870 Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: BCLC] #2777728 04/04/19 07:27 PM 04/04/19 07:27 PM
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R_H_Clark Leupold Pro Staff R Joined: May 2012 Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama	Originally Posted by BCLC Which turrets does your Meopta have? If it's the MeoTrack TRZ or RZ turrets make sure the gunsmith didn't accidentally set the zero at the wrong elevation. That's a thought. Does the scope have a zero stop that needs to be disengaged,adjusted and reengaged?

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2782041 04/10/19 12:10 PM 04/10/19 12:10 PM
Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 52 USA B Barton spike
Barton spike B Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 52 USA	trying out another optic is always a good way to find out if it is the scope or mount too? That scope has plenty of vertical to get you where you need to be, I'm guess something in the mount. I do look forward to hearing your resolution. The Meopta's my friends and I have messed with have all been very nice scopes. Well built and very nice glass. I just ordered one with the new Dichrotic reticle, it should be excellent for hunting. Last edited by Barton; 04/10/19 12:12 PM. Reason: sp Bart

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2809769 05/17/19 10:30 PM 05/17/19 10:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 24 Alabama, Mobile H Hornmtn OP spike
Hornmtn OP spike H Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 24 Alabama, Mobile	I took it to Quints and they shimmed the scope base. Cant tell by looking at it. Had them sight it 2" high at 100 yards also, they said it shot a 1" group with Federal Power Shock cheap ammo I gave them. I am going to shoot it myself soon. It shot 1" when I shot it before. I will take that and look forward to trying it with better ammo. Thanks for all the responses!

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2809771 05/17/19 10:38 PM 05/17/19 10:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe gundoc 14 point
gundoc 14 point Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe	It's odd that it required any shim. I've mounted quite few scopes on Vanguards using Talley rings and had no problems There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be! ~ unknown

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2809818 05/18/19 06:29 AM 05/18/19 06:29 AM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama R R_H_Clark Leupold Pro Staff
R_H_Clark Leupold Pro Staff R Joined: May 2012 Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama	I would not use shims on a scope. All you are doing is binding and torquing the tube because the receiver isn't drilled correctly,or your mounts are off. Burris makes offset inserts to fix an alignment problem without binding the tube which can screw up the erector adjustment.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2809826 05/18/19 06:42 AM 05/18/19 06:42 AM
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doekiller Freak of Nature Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house	If I was getting a 1 inch group with a gun when I had a 6.5-20 scope on it, I would throw it in the river.

Re: Meopta 6.5-20 scope zero issue-help [Re: Hornmtn] #2838540 06/26/19 05:43 PM 06/26/19 05:43 PM
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280AI_HAMMER 3 point 2 Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 161 Alabama Troy Pike co.	I would bet it’s in the zero stop adjustment

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